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Well no it will be powering 4x C803s and a C80CEN as well as 2 rear surrounds & daul HSU subs.

I don't know if Hsu makes passive subwoofers. If the ones you have are active, they drive themselves, so we need not count them.

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Never really messed around with amps but I have been reading up on people using amps for their front speakers so it kind of caught my eye.

The 709 should still be capable of driving 4 803s and 2 rear surrounds. See if you can borrow an amp from someone for a day to see if it makes a clear difference.

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What do you guys think about driving a pair of C603 with AudioSource AMP310? In the future, If I ever get to finish my HT setup in the basement, I might relegate it to driving the C607s there.

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What do you guys think about driving a pair of C603 with AudioSource AMP310? In the future, If I ever get to finish my HT setup in the basement, I might relegate it to driving the C607s there.

I just looked up the specs of AMP310 and it should be more than sufficient!

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Thanks. I'm wondering if I'll be able to hear much difference in how the C603s sound when powered by this AudioSource as opposed to the HK-3490 that's powering them now. The HK somehow makes them sound very flat, dull, lifeless, constrained, for the lack of a better word. If I were to pick up the AudioSource, I'd have to connect it to HK's pre-outs anyway to get the signal. If it's the HK's pre-outs that are crap, then adding an external amp will most likely not fix anything...

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That is surprising. All the reviews I have seen talk highly of HK 3490, and its amp section is quite beefy as well. The C603 shouldn't be that hard to drive, especially with this receiver.

If you have access to other speakers or receivers, you might want to try various combinations - to rule out the role of room acoustics in giving a disappointing sound. Or maybe double check all the settings on the HK?

If everything's already checked, connecting an amp to the same receiver in the same place might not change much, as you said.

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Yeah, room acoustics can certainly be to blame to an extent. It's a big wide open half-finished basement with concrete walls all around. I've got two pairs of speakers running off that HK: the C603s and Polk Audio Monitor 40s plus two powered subs.

I used to run these C603s off an older Denon AVR-2801, and the sound wasn't any better. Then again, most lower-end AVRs aren't particularly good at delivering nice 2-channel performance, so maybe that is not a good point of reference either.

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Yeah, room acoustics can certainly be to blame to an extent. It's a big wide open half-finished basement with concrete walls all around. I've got two pairs of speakers running off that HK: the C603s and Polk Audio Monitor 40s plus two powered subs.

I used to run these C603s off an older Denon AVR-2801, and the sound wasn't any better. Then again, most lower-end AVRs aren't particularly good at delivering nice 2-channel performance, so maybe that is not a good point of reference either.

Have you tried connecting just one pair of speakers at a time and listening to them that way? I'm not sure of the specs on the H/K, but running 2 8ohm speakers and 2 6ohm speakers at the same time doesn't sound like a good idea.
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Have you tried connecting just one pair of speakers at a time and listening to them that way?

I did. It sounds the same to me.

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I'm not sure of the specs on the H/K, but running 2 8ohm speakers and 2 6ohm speakers at the same time doesn't sound like a good idea.

Yeah, that is why I started looking for a separate amp to drive one pair of the speakers and letting the HK drive the other pair.

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Ok hopefully im back in the jamo fold!

Been offered a set of d500's!
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Does anyone have a frequency response diagram for C603?

I'm trying to decide where to set the crossover for music listening in a 2.1 setup. I know they're rated down to 45 Hz, but for all we know, they may be down by some 10 dB already at that point. I'm thinking I'll set the x-over somewhere in the 60-80 Hz range. Has anyone done any experimentations that they can share?

Another option would be to just let them play full range since it's only for music (no LFE material). However, sometimes I play them loud and I feel bad about throwing a lot of bass notes on that single woofer, especially that it can't really reproduce these low notes with any sort of authority anyway...

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Does anyone have a frequency response diagram for C603?

I'm trying to decide where to set the crossover for music listening in a 2.1 setup. I know they're rated down to 45 Hz, but for all we know, they may be down by some 10 dB already at that point. I'm thinking I'll set the x-over somewhere in the 60-80 Hz range. Has anyone done any experimentations that they can share?

Another option would be to just let them play full range since it's only for music (no LFE material). However, sometimes I play them loud and I feel bad about throwing a lot of bass notes on that single woofer, especially that it can't really reproduce these low notes with any sort of authority anyway...

I would crossover at 80Hz. It is rated 60Hz at -3db.
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Thanks for that!

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Thanks for that!

You're welcome.
Translations from German are not perfect but they do have some interesting test bench reviews of a few Jamo speakers.

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A random question -

Is anyone using the Jamo speakers with a Pioneer 1020/1021/1120/1121 receiver? I'm asking because I heard the S426 driven by a Pioneer 1120 and an Onkyo RC-360 in the same room, and it definitely sounded more dynamic and powerful when driven by the Onkyo. I'm trying to understand if it's the weaker amp of 1x2x series (more possible) or better processing by Onkyo (I'll have a hard time believing this).

f it's the amp, will it be a huge improvement adding an external amp to the 1120?

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Did the onkyo have Dynamic EQ turned on? If so, there's your answer. After demoing onkyo, Denon, Yamaha, and H/K in my home, I won't even consider a receiver now without the Audyssey suite. Therefore that rules out me ever owning pioneer, yamaha, or H/K ever again. I watch and listen at night a lot after kids are in bed and the Dynamic EQ restores the low end and dynamics without having to crank it.

The first onkyo I ever tried was the 606. After running auto setup and firing it up for the first time, I was blown away (turns on dynamic EQ by default). I ended up returning it but now have a Denon with Audyssey.

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how much did you ppay for them?
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[quote=.peace.;21703774]A random question -

Is anyone using the Jamo speakers with a Pioneer 1020/1021/1120/1121 receiver? I'm asking because I heard the S426 driven by a Pioneer 1021 and an Onkyo RC-360 in the same room, and it definitely sounded more dynamic and powerful when driven by the Onkyo. I'm trying to understand if it's the weaker amp of 1x2x series (more possible) or better processing by Onkyo (I'll have a hard time believing this).

f it's the amp, will it be a huge improvement adding an external amp to the 1021?[/QUOTE]

You cant add an external amp to the vsx-1021. No preamp outputs.

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My bad, I meant 1120. Also editing the original post.

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I have a pair of Jamo C-603's as my surrounds and a pair of Jamo C-809 towers as my fronts driven with a Pioneer Elite SC-35. I really enjoy this setup with these speakers especially when it comes to music.

However, I have been considering switching to Denon or Marantz simply because of the Audyssey. I really like the specs with the SC-35 but it doesn't do much to integrate bass (I have an Epik Empire) which is a real downfall with the MCAAC that Pioneer uses.
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Hi tafoyavision,

I am glad to hear that you have c809 fronts.I love to have them one day

for me marantz 6006 / Denon 3312 might be a good option for you as they have multEQ XT.

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I have a pair of Jamo C-603's as my surrounds and a pair of Jamo C-809 towers as my fronts driven with a Pioneer Elite SC-35. I really enjoy this setup with these speakers especially when it comes to music.

However, I have been considering switching to Denon or Marantz simply because of the Audyssey. I really like the specs with the SC-35 but it doesn't do much to integrate bass (I have an Epik Empire) which is a real downfall with the MCAAC that Pioneer uses.

Tafo,I was using a vsx919 with my c607's,c80cen,c603's and a sub550.I then switched to a Marantz sr5005 and a Hsu vtf3 ho/turbo sub.The Marantz is much warmer and has a better all around sound.It did not matter if I used MCAAC or Audyssey I still had to adjust the speaker level to get the sound the I liked from each speaker.I crossed my sub over at 60Hz and it integrates very well with my front sound stage.
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Just ordered a s606 set....May have the bookshelves and center from my s506 set for sale soon...

Anyone have a onkyo 609 with the s606 set-up? I'm thinking about keeping the towers from the s506 for my rear surrounds and using the bookshelves for a 7.1(606 fronts,606 cen, 606 bookshelf sides, 605 rears and my outlaw ex sub)...Can the onkyo 609 handle it? I don't want push it to hard and fry it. Right now, it's not in the best location and doesn't get much airflow but, it doesn't seem to get hot even after hours of use on a daily basis..
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Anybody noticed the sale of the Jamo C807/C80 speakers at Vanns? With the promo code, the C807 are $399 each and the C80 is $249. I just purchased a set of C807's and a C80. These will be replacing AE Sierra-1's that I sold. I will report back when I get them to give my impression.
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What's the promo code

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The sale ended Thursday. Too late.

Go to vanns.com and sign up for their email notifications so that you don't miss it next time.

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Tafo,I was using a vsx919 with my c607's,c80cen,c603's and a sub550.I then switched to a Marantz sr5005 and a Hsu vtf3 ho/turbo sub.The Marantz is much warmer and has a better all around sound.It did not matter if I used MCAAC or Audyssey I still had to adjust the speaker level to get the sound the I liked from each speaker.I crossed my sub over at 60Hz and it integrates very well with my front sound stage.


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I have a pair of Jamo C-603's as my surrounds and a pair of Jamo C-809 towers as my fronts driven with a Pioneer Elite SC-35. I really enjoy this setup with these speakers especially when it comes to music.

However, I have been considering switching to Denon or Marantz simply because of the Audyssey. I really like the specs with the SC-35 but it doesn't do much to integrate bass (I have an Epik Empire) which is a real downfall with the MCAAC that Pioneer uses...

Thanks Uber,

I was hoping to confirm this theory with someone who had at least semi similar equipment. I have always been intrigued by Marantz. I also had heard that Marantz and Jamo play really well together, and have heard about the famous "warm" Marantz sound.

Just when you think you're done and set for 10 years, the upgrade bug bites. Oh well, time to hit Audiogon and Amazon.
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I posted this in the Subwoofer forum and didn't get a response (yet). When I searched for the sub it seemed that most references to this sub were in this thread so I figured I'd post the question here too.

I found a Jamo Sub 6510 for under a $100 on Craigslist. The story about why it's for sale so cheap seems fishy, but if it's legit is the sub a decent one? I have read some reviews showing that it is decent for HT and music.

My use would be 99% TV and HT in a 2400 cubic foot room.

I am currently using an Onkyo HTIB sub.

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Hi, all. Just wanted to introduce myself! I took my first baby dip into the home theater world and purchased the Jamo S606 5.0 system paired with a Denon 1912 and Bic F12 sub. I'm really pleased with the Jamos for the money. All dialed in they sound warm and natural. They produce more than enough sound for my space. Would anyone else with a similar set up care to share their preferred settings for say music vs. movies?

I usually leave mine in standard Audessey mode and Dolby surround. For bass settings, the gain on my Bic is set to 2.5. All speakers are set to "small" with the crossovers at 60, 80, and 90 for the fronts, center, and surrounds. I previously had all set to 80, but this sounds better to my ears. The LFE is at 120.

Did anyone biamp or biwire the fronts? Thanks in advance!
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I posted this in the Subwoofer forum and didn't get a response (yet). When I searched for the sub it seemed that most references to this sub were in this thread so I figured I'd post the question here too.

I found a Jamo Sub 6510 for under a $100 on Craigslist. The story about why it's for sale so cheap seems fishy, but if it's legit is the sub a decent one? I have read some reviews showing that it is decent for HT and music.

My use would be 99% TV and HT in a 2400 cubic foot room.

I am currently using an Onkyo HTIB sub.

For $100? You not gonna find a sub of that quality in that price range. It'll most certainly be better than your current Onkyo sub.

10" sub
25hz - 150hz frequency response
275W RMS, 650W peak power

I think that's a no brainer.

You should be able to test it since you're buying locally.

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For $100? You not gonna find a sub of that quality in that price range. It'll most certainly be better than your current Onkyo sub.

10" sub
25hz - 150hz frequency response
275W RMS, 650W peak power

I think that's a no brainer.

You should be able to test it since you're buying locally.

I'm not able to test it which is part if the problem. That is the reason the guy says he is getting rid of it so cheap. He says he does not have a receiver to hook it up to. Supposedly someone owed the seller money and gave him the sub instead. Now the seller is selling the sub for just the amount of money the guy owed him. Seems a bit fishy. The most I can do is look it over and maybe plug it in to be sure it lights up (if there is a light).

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