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Hello.

I am getting tired of my existing Arcam/Paradigm Studio v3 setup. I am looking to build a new 2ch system for music only.

Unlike my previous system purchase, I want to spend sometime on researching before I purchase the new system (and I am willing to spend much more than my existing setup). I listen to different types of music and my existing setup sounds flat when it comes to reproducing a large orchestra or live concert music. I feel that those types of music are hard to capture with realism by average loud speakers. I am looking for speakers that can handle orchestra and live music well.

My maximum budget for speakers are ~$10,000 (cheaper the better of course). Feel free to make suggestion. Please don't bash other person's suggestions.

Thank you!
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What is making you tired of your Arcam/Paradigm set-up?


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The Thiel CS3.7 are the best that I have heard in that price range. In fact I liked them so much that I brought a pair and am listening to them right now.
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I would look at the Vandersteen Quatros. Your electronics will also need to be on par with the Quatros or Thiel 3.7's. I have also owned Thiel 3.6's and 6.0's and the power needed for the Thiels and Vandersteens are about the same. If your buying used and could up your price some then a pair of Vandersteen 5A's is sonic bliss. Another option for the Vandersteen's is 3A Sigs and a pair of 2Wq Subs.
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For $5,000 you could get a pair of Definitive BP7000SCs. Being the flagship of the Def Tech line, It is hard to conceive of anything being better (if there were a way to improve on them, Def Tech would have done so themselves.) These are the speakers I would buy whether my budget was 10K or 500K.
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Try Merlins and Revels.

It's hard to give a recommendation at this price level.
So many of the speakers that people rave about
I find fatiguing and a little tipped up.
You know, "one man's detail is another man's headache."
But I would think at the price level you are looking at they
aren't just boosting the tweeter level.
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How's your room acoustics?

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you're better off just auditioning or you're just going to get wacky suggestions like deftech.......
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How's your room acoustics?

I second this....devote part of the budget towards professional acoustical room treatment if you have not already done so.

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you're better off just auditioning or you're just going to get wacky suggestions like deftech.......

I was questioning the Def Tech fanboy comment as well
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you're better off just auditioning or you're just going to get wacky suggestions like deftech.......

There is nothing "wacky" about Def Tech. They don't merely make extremely good speakers, they make great speakers. I have heard speakers costing far more than my BP10s that don't even come close to sounding as good.

(Note: you do know that that cat has a slice of toast on its head, right?)
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you're better off just auditioning or you're just going to get wacky suggestions like deftech.......

LOL!

Actually, while auditioning is always a good idea, I think it gets more imperative as you get into higher end speakers. Lots of excellent speakers under 10K will have sufficiently different characteristics that it becomes difficult to make recommendations, let alone declare 'the best'.

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Used. Revel Salons, VA Mahler, Infinity MTS, Thiel 7.2 - all great choices.

There really is no best BTW, just very good, expensive speakers.
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Try and get a listen to the Pioneer S-1EX. I think they are outstanding, and if I had $10K to spend on a pair of speakers, they would be on the top of my "to compare" list.

http://stereophile.com/floorloudspeakers/307piosex/

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I would listen to Aerial Model 9s.
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Linkwitz Orion and 12 channel Amp for $8200 . Visit Orions forum site, maybe there is one in your area to audition the system.
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You can find used Wilson Watt Puppy's for that kind of change.

Best selling over 10k speaker of all time
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Dynaudio C-1's or Dynaudio Contour S5.4's.

Remember, it is all about the music not the sound!
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Used. Revel Salons, VA Mahler, Infinity MTS, Thiel 7.2 - all great choices.

There really is no best BTW, just very good, expensive speakers.

Interesting you bring up the Thiel CS7.2s, I actually auditioned these quite a bit and compared them to the CS3.7s. IMHO the CS3.7 was a better speaker all around with all things (equipment) being equal. It is really a special speaker. I have to agree with Jim Thiel when he said it is the best speaker he has ever made.
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Interesting you bring up the Thiel CS7.2s, I actually auditioned these quite a bit and compared them to the CS3.7s. IMHO the CS3.7 was a better speaker all around with all things (equipment) being equal. It is really a special speaker. I have to agree with Jim Thiel when he said it is the best speaker he has ever made.


No kidding? I'll have to listen to them if I ever get the chance.
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For $5,000 you could get a pair of Definitive BP7000SCs. Being the flagship of the Def Tech line, It is hard to conceive of anything being better (if there were a way to improve on them, Def Tech would have done so themselves.) .

Oh gawd. The stuff that comes out of your mouth sees no boundaries of ridiculousness.

First you proclaim that B&W 700 is the end all of speakers when you owned a pair. And now you proclaim that the speaker designs can get no better than what Definitive Technology engineers can develop.

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Dynaudio C-1's or Dynaudio Contour S5.4's.

While I don't disagree with you about your suggestion here at all, for fairness you should disclose that you work for Dynaudio.

As to the OP, what have you listened to and what do you like so far? There is no single BEST, it depends on listener preferences. Many people have asked the same question before and arrived at different answers. You have to do some thorough auditioning yourself and see what YOU like.
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From my auditioning sessions, I would have to go with the Thiel CS3.7 if I had that budget.

I would definitely recommend getting some acoustical treatments into the room if you havent already done so. A couple grand into decent bass traps and reflection points would do quite a bit to improve the sound reaching your ears.
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For $5,000 you could get a pair of Definitive BP7000SCs. Being the flagship of the Def Tech line, It is hard to conceive of anything being better (if there were a way to improve on them, Def Tech would have done so themselves.) These are the speakers I would buy whether my budget was 10K or 500K.

You think they'd do well with a large orchestra, your favorite type of music?

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These would fill the bill quite nicely:

http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls....ull&1194898568

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While I don't disagree with you about your suggestion here at all, for fairness you should disclose that you work for Dynaudio.

As to the OP, what have you listened to and what do you like so far? There is no single BEST, it depends on listener preferences. Many people have asked the same question before and arrived at different answers. You have to do some thorough auditioning yourself and see what YOU like.

Yes I do and yes I still suggest the C-1's and the S5.4's. I would also suggest the 1037Be from Focal/JMlabs or the 803D from B&W, both excellent speakers as well but the key is for the OP to audition any and all (even Def Tech) speakers and to use our suggestions as only a starting point. Sorry that I didn't make it clear before that I work for Dynaudio.

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You can try the higher end totem speakers.

http://www.totemacoustic.com/ca/en/p...olumns/shaman/
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For $5,000 you could get a pair of Definitive BP7000SCs. Being the flagship of the Def Tech line, It is hard to conceive of anything being better (if there were a way to improve on them, Def Tech would have done so themselves.) These are the speakers I would buy whether my budget was 10K or 500K.

$5,000 is retail, you can pick them up for around $3,750 - $4,000 street

these full range towers are flat down to 20hz +/- 3db

to the OP, ignore the def tech bashers, go listen to them and trust your ears

also check out the PSB Platinum T8 Tower's

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Sorry that I didn't make it clear before that I work for Dynaudio.

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That information should really be in your signature. Dynaudio is the real deal.

For the record, I'd look at Dynaudio, Revel, B&W, Aerial, and a few others. I will not spam you by suggesting Triad, but I certainly have a $10,300 2.1 system in mind...

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I will second the JM Labs 1027's. I have them and they really can sound fantastic with the right gear. Dynaudio is also another great choice. I have not heard them in a while, but I heard Monitor Audio once and really liked them.
I put one more in the mix. EX speaakers from Pioneer.
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I think they are still under the TAD umbrella. If they sound anything like their big brothers, they should be fantasic.
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