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I just installed 3 in wall silver 6 lcr's for my front stage and use an emotiva xpa 3 to drive them. Plenty of oomph from the amp and I was having fun going louder with these than I could with my old speakers. My old ones would start to distort but these silvers powered on through and sounded better as they got louder. Watched Kill Bill vol 1 and was extremely happy with the fact that the silvers are much smoother in the mid to high freq's, not harsh to my ears while listening at extremely loud levels.
I have a similar setup to yours - I too have silver 6's for my fronts - powered by an XPA-5 which is also powering my 2 silver 4 surrounds and so far I have been really happy with the setup. I also have silver 4's for my rear speakers - those are powered by an XPA-200. Glad to hear you are enjoying your new setup! Have fun with it!


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I have a similar setup to yours - I too have silver 6's for my fronts - powered by an XPA-5 which is also powering my 2 silver 4 surrounds and so far I have been really happy with the setup. I also have silver 4's for my rear speakers - those are powered by an XPA-200. Glad to hear you are enjoying your new setup! Have fun with it!


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I'm sure I will look at either the bronze or silver surrounds at some point. Not sure if I'd be able to tell a difference between them as surrounds? And since my installation the other day with the silver 6's was in my already finished theater, I have no desire to outfit the space again with plastic sheeting like a Dexter murder scene.

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Thanks!

I'm sure I will look at either the bronze or silver surrounds at some point. Not sure if I'd be able to tell a difference between them as surrounds? And since my installation the other day with the silver 6's was in my already finished theater, I have no desire to outfit the space again with plastic sheeting like a Dexter murder scene.
I would see if Triad comes out with Atmos ready surrounds in the Silver line to go with your Silver fronts. If you don't want to re-do everything again, I would buy speakers for the future formats.

Dipoles do not work well with Atmos or any other object based format.

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I'm not sure about atmos, meaning I think it will stick but I have no plans to implement it anytime soon. I am curious to see what Triad does do in regards to atmos, I'm sure they will come up with something but what type of premium will it command?

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I'm not sure about atmos, meaning I think it will stick but I have no plans to implement it anytime soon. I am curious to see what Triad does do in regards to atmos, I'm sure they will come up with something but what type of premium will it command?
I don't know about a premium over their normal prices, they just have to design their in-wall, on-wall, and in-ceiling/on-ceiling surround speakers to meet Dolby's recommended dispersion and frequency response specs for Atmos. Cinema speaker companies have been doing that for a while now.

The only premium price might be the new in room speakers with built-in Atmos-enabled top firing speakers.

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Thanks!

I'm sure I will look at either the bronze or silver surrounds at some point. Not sure if I'd be able to tell a difference between them as surrounds? And since my installation the other day with the silver 6's was in my already finished theater, I have no desire to outfit the space again with plastic sheeting like a Dexter murder scene.
Yeah I know exactly what you mean there - I just went through that myself to put in the triads - the builder had installed some awful inwalls in some less than perfect locations - so we had to rip all of that out and redo it. What a mess! Don't want to relive that any time soon.

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Hello,

I have 2 x Bronze/6 in-wall subwoofers currently running each off a RackAmp 350. I'm curious what value/benefits there may be, if any, or detriments to running the subs off an Emotiva XPA-2 instead? I'm already using XPA amps for my main 7 channels.

https://emotiva.com/products/amplifiers/xpa-2

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Hello,

I have 2 x Bronze/6 in-wall subwoofers currently running each off a RackAmp 350. I'm curious what value/benefits there may be, if any, or detriments to running the subs off an Emotiva XPA-2 instead? I'm already using XPA amps for my main 7 channels.

https://emotiva.com/products/amplifiers/xpa-2

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Why not stick with the amp they were designed to make use of, the one you are using, instead of a frankenstein approach?
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I remember a while back some of you used some sort of screw with a rubber grommet to hold your triad in wall speakers into a frame. Anyone recall what those are called?

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Hi all,

Not sure if this is normal but I've noticed a very faint humming coming from my new silver 6 in wall's with the system on but nothing playing. Is this common or is something off in my system? My old speakers did not have this hum so it makes me wonder why the Triads are doing this? I know the speakers are connected properly. Any help would be appreciated.

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Not common, unless your old speakers were far less efficient (so you didn't hear it).
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Not common, unless your old speakers were far less efficient (so you didn't hear it).
Efficiency is rated about the same but my old speakers were 8 ohm and these are 4 ohm, would that be it?

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I remember a while back some of you used some sort of screw with a rubber grommet to hold your triad in wall speakers into a frame. Anyone recall what those are called?
Wasn't that the guy who bought speakers on ebay or something, and made in wall boxes for them?
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I remember a while back some of you used some sort of screw with a rubber grommet to hold your triad in wall speakers into a frame. Anyone recall what those are called?

I remember someone who used RSIC DC04 clips to mount gold monitors to a baffle wall. Can't remember the user name but it was a professionally designed/built theater - I think Erskine group finished it up.
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I remember someone who used RSIC DC04 clips to mount gold monitors to a baffle wall. Can't remember the user name but it was a professionally designed/built theater - I think Erskine group finished it up.
That's Joelc's thread........Toronto build I believe
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Efficiency is rated about the same but my old speakers were 8 ohm and these are 4 ohm, would that be it?
Probably not.
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Triad Atmos speaker.

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Here's an interview in Twice Magazine with Craig Eggers, director of Dolby’s home-theater initiative, discussing the new Dolby Atmos rollout. Featured in the article is a picture of a Triad prototype Dolby enhanced speaker, sold to Dolby as part of its Atmos development program. Dolby Atmos is an exciting new technology that will be one of the top new products at CEDIA next month. It is being embraced by all the major electronics manufacturers and it will give you the opportunity to update your theater, by adding speakers to significantly enhance the experience. You will see our new Dolby Atmos enhanced speakers in our booth #448 at the CEDIA Expo in September and you will also be able to hear them at Dolby's booth #180.
And as for using any speaker as a ceiling height speaker-

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Any good-quality in-ceiling speaker is capable of delivering height effects. Dolby, however, recommends specific radiation patterns to widen the sweet spot to deliver an optimum experience to as many listeners as possible.
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And as for using any speaker as a ceiling height speaker-
Just recently was in communication with Steve Colburn at Triad who leads Product Development.........after waiting on confirmation with Dolby regarding Atmos ceiling speaker parameters, it was decided custom was my only alternative.

Just the other day, Dennis Erskine commented in my build thread to wait until CEDIA before purchasing "Atmos" speakers.........Dennis stated and I quote, "EXACT" match to my existing speakers. Knowing I'm looking for ceiling speakers.......suffice to say, there is more to the story than we know. My discussions with Triad took place little over a month ago........something is coming down pipeline that may work for my install. I suspect Atmos ceiling speakers may be available for Gold/Silver product line. Of course speculation, but I have a feeling I may have a solution other than Tannoy direction I was contemplating.
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Just recently was in communication with Steve Colburn at Triad who leads Product Development.........after waiting on confirmation with Dolby regarding Atmos ceiling speaker parameters, it was decided custom was my only alternative.

Just the other day, Dennis Erskine commented in my build thread to wait until CEDIA before purchasing "Atmos" speakers.........Dennis stated and I quote, "EXACT" match to my existing speakers. Knowing I'm looking for ceiling speakers.......suffice to say, there is more to the story than we know. My discussions with Triad took place little over a month ago........something is coming down pipeline that may work for my install. I suspect Atmos ceiling speakers may be available for Gold/Silver product line. Of course speculation, but I have a feeling I may have a solution other than Tannoy direction I was contemplating.
I'm hoping Triad has a good option for in ceiling to match my Silvers too (fingers crossed).
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I'm hoping Triad has a good option for in ceiling to match my Silvers too (fingers crossed).
I suspect we're the tip of iceberg..............
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I am back here again to talk Atmos! Seems to be a popular discussion these days.


I read most of the Dolby materials and I'm not sure that I would need anything other than good quality direct radiating in ceiling speakers to achieve Atmos. Most of the home theater diagrams depict a pair of front ceiling and a pair of rear ceiling speakers.


I currently have:
Triad Gold Monitors (L, C, R)
Triad Silver Subwoofers x 4
Triad Silver In Wall Surround x 4 (LS, LR, LBS, RBS)


Frankly, I was looking for two more sets of speakers for the ceiling. First, a pair of front ceiling speakers to satisfy Dolby IIz for now (front high channels) and then be available for Atmos in the future. Second, a pair of rear ceiling speakers to satisfy Atmos. Given the fact that for Dolby IIz, these are effect speakers and I'm not too sure how much specific Atmos effects will eventually be present, I was looking to match the Silver Surrounds. I actually have sort of settled on either 1) the InWall Silver Satellites to match the surrounds or 2) Inwall Silver Mini Monitors to sort of match the front Gold Monitors. I'm not sure that going all the way to Gold Mini Monitors in the ceiling for front high or Atmos effects is necessary.


Any opinion on which ones would be best for the application?

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I am back here again to talk Atmos! Seems to be a popular discussion these days.


I read most of the Dolby materials and I'm not sure that I would need anything other than good quality direct radiating in ceiling speakers to achieve Atmos. Most of the home theater diagrams depict a pair of front ceiling and a pair of rear ceiling speakers.


I currently have:
Triad Gold Monitors (L, C, R)
Triad Silver Subwoofers x 4
Triad Silver In Wall Surround x 4 (LS, LR, LBS, RBS)


Frankly, I was looking for two more sets of speakers for the ceiling. First, a pair of front ceiling speakers to satisfy Dolby IIz for now (front high channels) and then be available for Atmos in the future. Second, a pair of rear ceiling speakers to satisfy Atmos. Given the fact that for Dolby IIz, these are effect speakers and I'm not too sure how much specific Atmos effects will eventually be present, I was looking to match the Silver Surrounds. I actually have sort of settled on either 1) the InWall Silver Satellites to match the surrounds or 2) Inwall Silver Mini Monitors to sort of match the front Gold Monitors. I'm not sure that going all the way to Gold Mini Monitors in the ceiling for front high or Atmos effects is necessary.


Any opinion on which ones would be best for the application?
Silver surrounds will be a kink in source chain for Atmos, but certainly possible to make things work.

None of your options mentioned are going to work optimally for Atmos........

Dispersion is key ie. 90 degree conical meaning coaxial or similar. Since ceiling speakers are extremely close to boundary, you'll need configuration with least loobing issue along with SBIR.

Silver Sats are a no go......sensitivity is 7-8 db's less than your mains, besides Silver Sat are for background music application rather than full blown Home theater......just not dynamic enough for Atmos implementation.

Wait until after CEDIA to make decision.......I was planning to attend, even have my flight tickets purchased but my invite for Dolby Demo was pulled therefore I'm not going.
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