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TRIAD SPEAKER MATCHING

Hi everyone,

I've been a Triad dealer for ten years, and have enjoyed it immensely because Triad does what no other speaker manufacturer can. They build speakers to order, paint them to match your d├ęcor or wall color, offer gorgeous veneers and gloss finishes, and even custom size or custom engineer a speaker for your specific requirements. Thanks to great design and engineering, Triad speakers have exceptional sound quality. In addition, unlike most mass-market brands, virtually all of Triad's models are manufactured right here in the USA in Portland, Oregon.

The only problem (if you actually consider this a problem) is that Triad has well over 100 different products to choose from -- spanning the very affordable to the ultra-high end. With this many models it can be difficult to figure out which Triad speakers match one another. In other words, how do you know which surround or effects speaker to use with a specific LCR? Or how to choose a subwoofer that would work best in a given system? Like pairing your meal with a compatible wine, it's not always an easy task.

I've spent some time designing a chart that will help you choose a Triad speaker system that is sonically matched. Keep in mind that your room plays a big role in the speakers you choose. For example, as common sense would dictate, don't expect a small Triad Mini speaker to fill a 10,000 cubic foot room. Conversely, Platinum speakers in the master bath is probably overkill. In any case, I'll be updating the chart very soon to include Triad's new Atmos models in the coming weeks and months.

I would like to thank Bruce Franklin (Triad's Director of North American Sales) for giving me the permission and encouragement to go ahead with this project. A special thanks goes to Sales Coordinator Bill Ruark. None of this could have been accomplished without him. The man is a walking Triad Encyclopedia, and he's very, very knowledgeable about audio theory and room acoustics. I've learned a tremendous amount from him and hope to continue to learn more.

If you have any questions please don't hesitate to contact me at my email address below. I'll be more than happy to help you select a Triad system based on your specific needs.

Dawn Gordon Luks
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dawn@egretelectronics.com

Hi. I like your chart, but my only criticism would be that your list is mostly matching the Triad speaker names and not taking into account the various speaker options for subwoofer, surround, etc.

For instance, I have a system in my family room that is well matched with an OnWall Mini LCR 3.0 sized to fit perfectly under an LED TV for my main speakers, but I've installed InWall Bronze Surround speakers on the sides and an InRoom Mini Sub. In your chart, you only recommend direct radiating surrounds. I prefer dipoles and would select the InWall Bronze Surround as the smallest dipole surround speaker available. Also, you only list the Omni Subs and the Bronze Slim Sub with these main speakers. I prefer and selected the slightly higher quality "InRoom Mini Sub" which is modeled after the Mini, Bronze, Silver, Gold, and Platinum InRoom subs with a separate DSP Rack Amp.

I realize there are virtually thousands of combinations, but that is the beauty of Triad speakers. I think your options need to be a little more broad to include speakers from all product categories. Perhaps instead of making a single row for each main speaker, you could make broader groupings to show all speakers that match a group of front speakers. Clearly the Mini line is the lowest level followed by Bronze, Silver, Gold, and Platinum.

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Hi. I like your chart, but my only criticism would be that your list is mostly matching the Triad speaker names and not taking into account the various speaker options for subwoofer, surround, etc.

For instance, I have a system in my family room that is well matched with an OnWall Mini LCR 3.0 sized to fit perfectly under an LED TV for my main speakers, but I've installed InWall Bronze Surround speakers on the sides and an InRoom Mini Sub. In your chart, you only recommend direct radiating surrounds. I prefer dipoles and would select the InWall Bronze Surround as the smallest dipole surround speaker available. Also, you only list the Omni Subs and the Bronze Slim Sub with these main speakers. I prefer and selected the slightly higher quality "InRoom Mini Sub" which is modeled after the Mini, Bronze, Silver, Gold, and Platinum InRoom subs with a separate DSP Rack Amp.

I realize there are virtually thousands of combinations, but that is the beauty of Triad speakers. I think your options need to be a little more broad to include speakers from all product categories. Perhaps instead of making a single row for each main speaker, you could make broader groupings to show all speakers that match a group of front speakers. Clearly the Mini line is the lowest level followed by Bronze, Silver, Gold, and Platinum.
Scott,

I understand what you're saying. There are hundreds of combinations possible in the Triad universe. Like playing with legos when you were a little kid, you can install almost any Triad speaker in just about any combination. But please keep in mind that the chart is designed to illustrate which Triad speakers match or sound similar to other Triad speakers. If we were make the selections broader then it would defeat the whole purpose of the chart.

For example, can you use Silver LCRs with Bronze surrounds, of course. But Silver surrounds would be a better match. Speaking of surrounds, Triad recommends that dipole Surrounds only be used with 5.1 systems, or when you have a very narrow or small room. Again, you may prefer dipoles and wish to use them in larger venues, but it's not what Triad is recommending -- especially with the new Dolby Atmos format.

As far as subs go, I do have an asterisk next to all the sub recommendations that goes with the key at the bottom of the document. It states: " Subwoofer listings are general recommendations. Room size and room configuration will dictate the type and number of subwoofers needed."

I will be updating the chart with Atmos models as soon as I have more info from Triad.

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Speaking of surrounds, Triad recommends that dipole Surrounds only be used with 5.1 systems, or when you have a very narrow or small room. Again, you may prefer dipoles and wish to use them in larger venues, but it's not what Triad is recommending -- especially with the new Dolby Atmos format.
That's an interesting comment because I have my four InWall Silver Surrounds installed in the ceiling on the sides and back (can't install in the side walls). I've been contemplating upgrading these to InCeiling Gold Mini Monitors which would hit my seating area perfectly and provide more direct and powerful sound.

My room is 3,000 sq feet and I have InRoom Gold Monitors across the front and InRoom Gold Mini Monitors for the height channels. I also have 4 Silver Subs.

The benefit of going to Gold Mini Monitors for the surrounds is that all speakers would match with the Scan Speak drivers. Surrounds would be about 10 feet from the listing position. Fronts are about 12-13 feet.

Any thoughts of moving from dipole to direct? I know a number of Triad users here have multiple Gold or Silver Surrounds on the sides and back of their theaters.

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The InCeiling Gold Mini-Monitors would be an excellent match for your Gold Monitors.

I have a similar setup in my great room, except that my rears (IR Gold MiniMonitors) are in a bookcase at the back of the room. Love my Gold Monitors. :-)

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