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Mankite,

Triad prefers to call it speaker matching.

Please see the updated version here:

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They look the same to me. Brent just emailed me that list two days ago. What's different between the two lists?

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I updated the chart with the new IR Bronze LR-H model. I also fixed some errors, typos and omissions. There will also be future updates here so stay tuned.

Triad should have the new chart, I emailed it to them when I made the changes.

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I updated the chart with the new IR Bronze LR-H model. I also fixed some errors, typos and omissions. There will also be future updates here so stay tuned.

Triad should have the new chart, I emailed it to them when I made the changes.

It's a great reference, thanks for putting this together!
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I have a question regarding the In Ceiling Bronze 8 LCR's. Unfortunately I do not have a room diagram yet, but I am wondering how close these can be mounted to a side wall.. really just 1 of them is close to the side wall. The center and Left LCR will have lots of room...
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I have a question regarding the In Ceiling Bronze 8 LCR's. Unfortunately I do not have a room diagram yet, but I am wondering how close these can be mounted to a side wall.. really just 1 of them is close to the side wall. The center and Left LCR will have lots of room...
You position the speakers so that they are aimed at the listening position, so ceiling height has to be taken into account when calculating where to place the speakers. The angled baffle in the Bronze 8 LCR is 45 degrees. If we can help you, give us a call.

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You position the speakers so that they are aimed at the listening position, so ceiling height has to be taken into account when calculating where to place the speakers. The angled baffle in the Bronze 8 LCR is 45 degrees. If we can help you, give us a call.

My Ceiling is low, only 7 feet, therefore based on my calculation of the 45 degree angle off the baffle, i should have my seating area roughly 7 feet from the speakers.

Does that sound correct? I'm guessing there is some room based on the 45 degree angle and dispersion. I thought I had read somewhere to keep the angle under 65 and it should be ok.

I will have to try to get a diagram of the room together, but basically all the HVAC runs kind of down the left side, so ceiling is say 4 inches lower.. so its not walled on that side just dropped, so I don't think I have any concerns for the left speaker.. and center is fine.. my question would be mainly regarding the right speaker, as to how close it can be to the side wall. Right now I am thinking with the screen placement and how I was thinking to line it all up it would be about 1.5 feet away from the side wall..

Hopefully that makes sense.

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My Ceiling is low, only 7 feet, therefore based on my calculation of the 45 degree angle off the baffle, i should have my seating area roughly 7 feet from the speakers.

Does that sound correct? I'm guessing there is some room based on the 45 degree angle and dispersion. I thought I had read somewhere to keep the angle under 65 and it should be ok.

I will have to try to get a diagram of the room together, but basically all the HVAC runs kind of down the left side, so ceiling is say 4 inches lower.. so its not walled on that side just dropped, so I don't think I have any concerns for the left speaker.. and center is fine.. my question would be mainly regarding the right speaker, as to how close it can be to the side wall. Right now I am thinking with the screen placement and how I was thinking to line it all up it would be about 1.5 feet away from the side wall..

Hopefully that makes sense.

Thanks for the help.
7' would have the speakers aimed at your feet. You need to subtract listening height, which will be around 40". I would place the speakers about 3'-8" away from you.

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Angus,

The IC Bronze LCRs are more forgiving than you think, but don't sit further than 8 feet away.

As far as the speaker placement of 1.5 feet from the side wall -- being so close to the corner you are going to experience boundary gain and you'll get deeper sound from that speaker. You can compensate if your receiver has Audyssey. In the end, you may not notice it at all, but it's something to be aware of.

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Thank you for the replies..

I will take a look and see exactly where I can place them.. several of the beam cavities are filled with HVAC or other things... but basically as long as I can be more or less no closer than 4 feet and no further out than 8 I should be fine?

I think I can make that work without to many issues. My receiver is an Onkyo 929 so that has Audessy which should hopefully adjust for the positioning relative to the wall.

Thanks for the help.. still have lots to figure out.. but slowly things are coming together.. now I can look at where exactly I can position these speakers...

Then only the surrounds to worry about

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Yes, 4-8 feet should be fine.

As far as the surrounds go, if you're interested in Atmos you'll want to use direct radiating speakers.

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Thank you..

I think that should give me enough range to work with. Will update on how things go once i get closer...

As for surrounds, at the moment no plans to go with Atmos.. It will either be 5 or 7.. plus sub or subs of course...

I currently have a set of silver surrounds i was going to use as side surrounds.. I also have a set of bronze's as well.. but i think i may re-purpose those for upstairs or some future use. I do however have a set of InCeiling mini Monitors which i was thinking of using as rear surrounds...

Not sure if it is reccomended to mix the dipole side surrounds with the more direct radiating in ceiling mini monitors...

Any thoughts on that?

Would that have an overall detriment on the sound.. IE would I be better going with Just the 5 channel.. or would that setup work for 7?

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You can mix dipole and direct radiating, but it's not the best implementation. The most important surrounds are the side surrounds. If you are going with a 5.1 system, then you can use dipoles on the sides (if they are at least 4-5 feet away from your head). If you are considering 7.1 then they should all be direct radiating.

Also, as you know, I recommend using similarly matched speakers if possible -- especially on the sides. So, if your fronts are Bronze, then use the Bronze surrounds. If you want to go with an all-Bronze system, think about selling the Silver surrounds, and re purposing the money for something else . BTW the Bronze series makes for a great sounding system.

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