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I'm looking at using the Triad Gold Monitors or LCRs for behind an AT screen, primarily for movies but on some occasions for music listening as well. I think these are rated to 50 hz but are (large) bookshelf-like speakers as opposed to towers. In this case would these speakers typically be set to Large or Small in a preprocessor like the Marantz 8802 when used in conjunction with multiple subs in a dedicated home theater? Normally I would think the recommendation would be to run them as Small to leave the power for the mid and upper frequencies and let the group of subs do the heavy lifting. But I was reading an article by Paul Spencer to suggested that in some cases you can let your mains also play down to the lower frequencies if it helps smooth out any voids, perhaps in the 50-80 hz region? Thanks!
Pretty much any speaker sold, should be set to small for HT, if using subs. My mains have 18's and they are set to small. It would have been much better if AVR manufacturers had used the term full range and non-full range, rather than large and small.
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Dumb me. I was the one having to push my wife into it.
Not dumb. More like, strategic. Greasing the wheels for your next theater upgrades.
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Thanks. Do the also recommend the same for the Gold LCRs?
Yes. Pretty much all speakers used for HT used with subs, should be set to small.
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Anybody know if Triad is running with Mundorf or Beyma AMTs?
I believe it is a custom Beyma.
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Just to clarify, you mean 6.5 ft away from directly overhead in your front row (not a compromised spot half way between front and back row right)?

I understand now what you are saying. You want to know about swiveling the speaker - turning it horizontally - since otherwise the tweeter aim is to the left and right of you instead of directly at you. That's actually a great question. I am guessing that yes it should be aimed that way. However please check with a professional as I am just making an educated guess here.
If you have two rows and you want good sound in all seats, you might want to measure from the spot between the two rows and use the 30 degree and 150 degree angle shown here: http://www.dolby.com/us/en/guide/dol...-4-setups.html Then rotate all ceiling speakers to point at this spot. That would give the most even coverage. Or you could just base it off of the main seat, since you will most likely be the person that cares about this the most.
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Not dumb. More like, strategic. Greasing the wheels for your next theater upgrades.
Have to build my fund back up. Had 8K in it and donated it to the kitchen. Right now, only two items that I am in need of for my HT are not available yet. One is a 4K BD player and the second is a method for doing vertical stretch of 4K movies. I have several months before I actually need these items.

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Just to clarify, you mean 6.5 ft away from directly overhead in your front row (not a compromised spot half way between front and back row right)?

I understand now what you are saying. You want to know about swiveling the speaker - turning it horizontally - since otherwise the tweeter aim is to the left and right of you instead of directly at you. That's actually a great question. I am guessing that yes it should be aimed that way. However please check with a professional as I am just making an educated guess here.
Thanks for your reply, so you are supporting what i am doing actually right? to aim the speaker towards my MLP.

i think it makes sense, otherwise, my MLP would be out of the speaker dispersion!

before tilting the speaker, the angle was 38 degree, where i should be within 30degree (60 dispersion = 30degree on each side).
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With multiple seats, multiple rows, and ceiling heights less than 10', you are well advised to not mount speakers on the ceiling for ATMOS. Ceiling treatments and reflective height speakers don't play together well. That is not to say it cannot be done, it is to say there are real challenges. Reading all the printed material and speculation from those who haven't been there, may start you in the right direction but it won't give you a solution for any given room. Perhaps a year from now there will be more people out there with hands on experience with these 3D formats; but, right now real world experience in small rooms is hard to come by.

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If you have two rows and you want good sound in all seats, you might want to measure from the spot between the two rows and use the 30 degree and 150 degree angle shown here: http://www.dolby.com/us/en/guide/dol...-4-setups.html Then rotate all ceiling speakers to point at this spot. That would give the most even coverage. Or you could just base it off of the main seat, since you will most likely be the person that cares about this the most.
Exactly!, and this is what i am doing right now!

by the way, regarding my main LCR which are InWall Triad Gold. since it is not an easy job to do DIY baffle wall without professional help, i am going to do a false wall instead (normal wood framing covered by GoM.), and this means i am building speaker boxes to host my LCR since they cannot sit on normal shelves, and then build normal screen frames for my Seymour screen.

would that be ok? or what do you suggest in this case?

however i can do baffle wall, but for future maintenance, it will be pain in the ***, since i went with 2x InRoom Gold Subs, and if they sit inside the baffle wall, it will be pretty hard to reach without removing the complete screen framing!, not to mention my Subs if placed below the screen, the screen frames will block about 5" of the subs from the top.

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With multiple seats, multiple rows, and ceiling heights less than 10', you well advised to not mount speakers on the ceiling for ATMOS. Ceiling treatments and reflective height speakers don't play together well.
I have one row for movies viewing, with 3 seats. and my ceiling height is 10.2'.

the height speakers is approx. 8.2' (diagonally from my ears) from my MLP.

and no ceiling treatments in my HT.
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Thanks. Do they also recommend the same for the Gold LCRs?
Yes. They're not full range speakers. Very few are. Maybe Wilson Watt Puppies or some other huge monstrosity.

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Yes. They're not full range speakers. Very few are. Maybe Wilson Watt Puppies or some other huge monstrosity.
Smooth bass is such a difficult proposition.....................never understood why someone would want full range speakers anyway.
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Smooth bass is such a difficult proposition.....................never understood why someone would want full range speakers anyway.
Usually since the best place in the room for great bass reproduction is not where the actual speaker is located.
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Usually since the best place in the room for great bass reproduction is not where the actual speaker is located.
TRUE!!!!


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Yes. They're not full range speakers. Very few are. Maybe Wilson Watt Puppies or some other huge monstrosity.
Even with those speakers, if you have subs the quality of the speakers, you would still want to run the speakers as small. Since the subs would be able to perform better down low.

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