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Thanks for the advice! Appreciate your expertise. Too many people take feedback as criticism these days.

Looks like I have some reading to do on reflection points. Then have to find some acoustic treatments that the wife will approve of.
I hope it helps. There are of course some god threads here about room treatments and acoustics.

I think there are places that will custom print any picture you want onto acoustic panels which can help make them palatable.

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I recently acquired a pair of triad inceiling silver/6 mini monitors and inwall silver/4 surrounds for a new family room 5.1 HT setup. I definitely need some help. The new family room will be around 12 x 16 with a 9 foot ceiling. The couch will be set along the 16 foot wall.
  1. Will the mini monitors be okay as fronts in this setup?
  2. I need a center channel. Is there any benefit to getting a silver monitor for the center channel for clearer voices vs a third mini monitor ? I have some mild hearing loss and speech discrimination can sometimes be an issue.
  3. I can only place the surround speakers in wall just below the ceiling or in the ceiling. Which position would be better?
  4. Is there any benefit to installing a 7.1 system vs 5.1 in this smaller space?
  5. I have heard of using the mini monitors as surrounds. If so how would you orient the angled baffle?

Thanks for any insight you can provide!
I was wondering if it was someone on here that picked up that other pair of IC silver minis. I have my couch along the wall as well, it's not ideal but being a living room its not my choice. The voices can be somewhat muddy but I usually just turn it up a little more. Maybe consider using a gold mini monitor for the center. I "believe" they use the same drivers, just the gold mm has a larger 6.25" woofer vs the silver mm 5.25" woofer. (someone correct me if I'm wrong)
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Just wondering what Atmos speakers everyone is using with there Triad Speakers?

I'm currently running Triad Plates and Gold OnWall surrounds but i'm unsure which speakers i should use for Atmos?
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Just wondering what Atmos speakers everyone is using with there Triad Speakers?

I'm currently running Triad Plates and Gold OnWall surrounds but i'm unsure which speakers i should use for Atmos?
I (shamelessly) copied @doublewing11 's idea to use Kef's (see my signature) including having similar backer boxes made. He did a lot of research on the them and it sounds great with my silvers.

Here is the link to his project.

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Just wondering what Atmos speakers everyone is using with there Triad Speakers?

I'm currently running Triad Plates and Gold OnWall surrounds but i'm unsure which speakers i should use for Atmos?
I like staying with the Triad family.
http://www.triadspeakers.com/product...lver6-monitor/
http://www.triadspeakers.com/product...c-bronze8-lcr/

One of the angles for Atmos is 45 degrees. The above linked speakers have 45 degree baffles. Works out very well.

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Just wondering what Atmos speakers everyone is using with there Triad Speakers?

I'm currently running Triad Plates and Gold OnWall surrounds but i'm unsure which speakers i should use for Atmos?
While my 7.1 set up consists entirely of Triad Speakers (Gold Monitors & Gold Mini Monitors) when it came time for Atmos speakers I chose the Atlantic Technology IC-6 OBA in-ceiling speakers.

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For those of you going to CEDIA don't forget to visit the Triad booth. The company will be showing a number of *very* exciting and unique new products.
What are the new products?
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What are the new products?
Tomorrow we should hear about the new product. Dealers should have known for a while now. . .
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If you like, I can post our Triad Show Report.
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We meet with Triad at 2:00 tomorrow, so will be looking at the new products then.

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Triad Speakers: CEDIA 2016 Show Report

With several unique speaker introductions, this is a big year for Triad at CEDIA.


RotaSat

InCeiling Silver/9 RotaSat ($800 ea.)





G Size Flush Grill
(1) 1" Fabric Dome tweeter
(1) 6.5" Paper/fiber blend woofer

Many Triad owners have been asking for a ceiling-based Atmos speaker with wider dispersion and better placement options. Your wait is now over, as Triad introduces the RotaSat.

Using the same drivers as found in Triad's Silver Satellites, the RotaSat features a unique rotating turntable design that allows the user to aim the entire speaker assembly. In addition, the tweeter is attached to a gooseneck that enables it to be aimed independently of the woofer. The most innovative feature, however, is the battery-powered, laser aiming tool that gives you precise speaker positioning. (See our You Tube video for more details)

SmallAperture Speakers (new construction only)

InCeiling SA4/9 ($1400 ea.)






4" Round or Square Grill
(1) 2.5" UBHD Broadband Driver
(2) 3" x 6" Proprietary Woofers
UBHD Technology (Ultra Broad Hemispherical Dispersion)
Fully serviceable, all components fit through grill

So you are building a new home and your interior designer hates big ceiling speakers. You can 1. Fire her and hope your spouse doesn't find out or 2. Install Triad's new SmallAperture speakers. If you can imagine a largeish box installed in the ceiling with a tiny 4" opening, then that's what this model is all about. Add a little UBHD and you get a speaker with super wide dispersion and no beaming or hot spotting.

InCeiling SA4/9 Sub ($1400 ea. $2000 with RackAmp 300)



4" Round or Square Grill
(3) 3" x 6" Proprietary Woofers
Teams with RackAmp 300
Fully serviceable, all components fit through grill

The subwoofer version of the SA4/9. Big sound, tiny little grill.

GardenArray Speakers



Not long ago, with the introduction of the OD25 and OD26, Triad finally delivered outdoor speakers of their very own. I honestly thought that was the end of it for a while. I was pleasantly surprised when I heard about the GardenArray models. GardenArray is a complete outdoor speaker system.

GA4 Sat ($250 ea.)



(1) 4.5" UBHD Broadband Driver
UBHD Technology (Ultra Broad Hemispherical Dispersion)
6 ohms or 70/100 volt compatibility
Adjustable mounting poles up to 18"
Wall mounts and ground stakes available

GA4 Sat is a weather-resistant, multi configurable outdoor speaker with super wide dispersion and no beaming or hot spotting. It's exceedingly easy to install.

GA10 Sub ($1400 with RackAmp - $300 extra for the underground kit)





Down-firing 10" woofer
Compact Size
Can be mounted above or below ground

This weather-resistant sub is designed to be powered by a Triad RackAmp 300. Unlike most other outdoor subs, the GA10 is happy both above and below ground. An underground kit transforms the sub into a stealthy, mole shaking, boomer.

A GA system that includes 8 Sats, 1 Sub, a RackAmp 300 and an Underground Kit is priced at $3750.


Other New stuff:

The OnWall MicroSat and Micro LCR SoundBars have been redesigned with metal AcoustiPerf Grills in place of the old fabric grills, they also include EasyMount brackets for wall mount applications. They come in 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 configurations.

Custom Installers will love the new SoundBar TV Bracket ($200), as it allows Triad SoundBars to be easily installed onto standard and swing-arm TV mounts.



Triad's R-Series gets a DT speaker. The R28 DT ($300) features a dual tweeter design with a micro bezel.

Triad's latest introductions will be available by the 4th quarter of 2016.
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Thanks Dawn!

I like the flexibility of the RotaSat to rotate but the gooseneck design looks gimmicky; I am no speaker design expert but doesn't the changing distance from tweeter to mid defeat some (perhaps negligible?) part of the crossover? Maybe a good tradeoff for being able to aim the tweeter directly at the MLP tho...

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CEDIA 2016 Video: Booth Walkthrough

Steve Colburn takes us on a video tour of all the new Triad products at CEDIA 2016!

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I like staying with the Triad family.
http://www.triadspeakers.com/product...lver6-monitor/
http://www.triadspeakers.com/product...c-bronze8-lcr/

One of the angles for Atmos is 45 degrees. The above linked speakers have 45 degree baffles. Works out very well.

I really wanted to stay in the Triad family..........................just wasn't in the cards. F3 values, dispersion, angles etc. could not meet my specs.......no Triad product could. Room dimensions along with seating arrangement were issues and no Triad product could produce needed dispersion, F3 below 80 Hz..............


The 200rr's are by FAR the best solution given my constraints ie. room and seating arrangement.
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I really wanted to stay in the Triad family..........................just wasn't in the cards. F3 values, dispersion, angles etc. could not meet my specs.......no Triad product could. Room dimensions along with seating arrangement were issues and no Triad product could produce needed dispersion, F3 below 80 Hz..............


The 200rr's are by FAR the best solution given my constraints ie. room and seating arrangement.
Too late for you but the speaker that Dawn mentioned that I saw at CEDIA is the perfect solution for me - when they EVENTUALLY can deliver them. I will definitely order them when available.
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Too late for you but the speaker that Dawn mentioned that I saw at CEDIA is the perfect solution for me - when they EVENTUALLY can deliver them. I will definitely order them when available.
Yes, the new in ceiling Silver/9 RotaSat looked like a real winner.

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New Speakers

Hi Dawn,

Thanks for the information on the new speakers. As always, you are as helpful here on AVS as you are on your own forums.

www.triadspeakersforum.com

I also appreciate your assistance with the tricky placement of the LCRs in my basement.

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Hello. I am considering using a couple of gold in room centers as L and Rs.

Triad suggests that this is ok but to orient the LR (centers) horizontally.

The centers have the tweeter in a different spot and have them angled for a horizontal alignment.

How much of an issue would it be to put these center channels in a vertical orientation?

Thanks.
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Hello. I am considering using a couple of gold in room centers as L and Rs.

Triad suggests that this is ok but to orient the LR (centers) horizontally.

The centers have the tweeter in a different spot and have them angled for a horizontal alignment.

How much of an issue would it be to put these center channels in a vertical orientation?

Thanks.
If using the horizontal centers, then they need to be placed horizontally. If you need to place them vertically, then get Gold LCR's. If we can help you, give us a call.

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Hi Mike,

These are preowned speakers, Im not purchasing them brand new. So my question really is, how much of a concession am I making by placing the centers vertically?

I feel like people sometimes just place a standard LR horizontally for the center channel. This is similar.

Thanks for the response.
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The problem is the horizontal LCRs have a vertical mid tweeter array which is specifically designed to optimize dispersion for a horizontal placement (counteracting the problems of traditional horizontal speakers). If you turn it sideways and stand it vertical it will have poor horizontal dispersion (probably bad lobing with mid/tweeter interfering off axis) so it will not sound consistent off axis.
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The problem is the horizontal LCRs have a vertical mid tweeter array which is specifically designed to optimize dispersion for a horizontal placement (counteracting the problems of traditional horizontal speakers). If you turn it sideways and stand it vertical it will have poor horizontal dispersion (probably bad lobing with mid/tweeter interfering off axis) so it will not sound consistent off axis.
i spoke with triad on the speakers. they couldn't really comment on turning these centers on their end. he did say if they were put on their end to try and put the tweeters on the outside. but they have no experience with it so cannot comment on how big of a compromise it would be.

how much of a comprise is the horizontal orientation in the first place? vs the standard LCR?

im 50/50 on the idea of the 3x centers right now.
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i spoke with triad on the speakers. they couldn't really comment on turning these centers on their end. he did say if they were put on their end to try and put the tweeters on the outside. but they have no experience with it so cannot comment on how big of a compromise it would be.

how much of a comprise is the horizontal orientation in the first place? vs the standard LCR?

im 50/50 on the idea of the 3x centers right now.
It is a significant compromise. That's why they make so much effort to build a completely separate model for horizontal versus vertical deployment.

If you buy them use them horizontally. If that is not an option then these are not the speakers for you, imo.

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It is a significant compromise. That's why they make so much effort to build a completely separate model for horizontal versus vertical deployment.

If you buy them use them horizontally. If that is not an option then these are not the speakers for you, imo.
I agree.

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