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post #1231 of 1259 Old 05-18-2017, 07:10 PM
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Thanks, BigAl87! I lean toward all verticals Tribe III for LCR as well and the only question is what is the spacing needed between the top/bottom bass ports and the upper/lower parts of the niche behind the screen (see the pic).

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12 inches clearance should be more than enough, i have seen Tribe I and II used as surround mounted about 6 inches from 8 foot ceiling and the port has enough room to breathe. not picky at all on placement or email totem at info@totemacoustic.com

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Well, I'm definitely looking forward to your progress and how it all unfolds! Do include pics. if you are so inclined and get the chance, would love to see it!
Thanks! Will keep posted as progress is going.

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12 inches clearance should be more than enough, i have seen Tribe I and II used as surround mounted about 6 inches from 8 foot ceiling and the port has enough room to breathe. not picky at all on placement or email totem at info@totemacoustic.com
Seems to be not that much and feasible in my room. Thank you!

BTW, also got response from Totem:

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the Tribe 3 does need a minimum of 3 inches top and bottom for proper port venting ( 6 inches top and bottom ideal)
So 6 to 12 inches are pretty safe gaps to go
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Thanks! Will keep posted as progress is going.



Seems to be not that much and feasible in my room. Thank you!

BTW, also got response from Totem:



So 6 to 12 inches are pretty safe gaps to go
More breathing room is better for sure, we would like you to share the end result with us once you are done. I know it might be a while but I have feeling you room will be really nice

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Totem Kin Mini Sub Quality?

Can anyone here give your opinion of this woofer in reference to build quality?

Use would be for Music listening but also TV and occasional Movies in a Condo where it needs to fill in the information from 80-100Hz down to 50Hz at a relatively low volume levels (usually not exceeding 80db at 10 foot listening distance). As this is for use in a condo, I prefer that it does not extend too low in frequency response so as to minimize disturbing other units in the complex. I know what I need would fall into the category of a Woofer rather than a Subwoofer and it seems like a pair of these could provide what I need. The other option I am considering is a pair of REL Tzero Subs.

Opinions please???
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Totem Kin Mini Sub Quality?

Can anyone here give your opinion of this woofer in reference to build quality?

Use would be for Music listening but also TV and occasional Movies in a Condo where it needs to fill in the information from 80-100Hz down to 50Hz at a relatively low volume levels (usually not exceeding 80db at 10 foot listening distance). As this is for use in a condo, I prefer that it does not extend too low in frequency response so as to minimize disturbing other units in the complex. I know what I need would fall into the category of a Woofer rather than a Subwoofer and it seems like a pair of these could provide what I need. The other option I am considering is a pair of REL Tzero Subs.

Opinions please???
Truly a nice little woofer with exceptional built quality and price. They do dig much lower than 50hz in room, in fact they go as low as 32hz +/-3db so 2 of them might get you more then what you are looking for actually. Heard that sub with the Kin Minis and wow that truly threw a nice soundstage. and very rich sound.

Kin sub for $200 more and dig 3hz lower with more displacement but 2 Kin Mini sub could end up in a better result if you place them properly.

You can look at the details here.

https://kinmini.com/en/kin-mini-sub

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More breathing room is better for sure, we would like you to share the end result with us once you are done. I know it might be a while but I have feeling you room will be really nice

Best of luck.
Yeah! Thanks a lot. Will post results for sure and maybe work in progress as well.
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Truly a nice little woofer with exceptional built quality and price. They do dig much lower than 50hz in room, in fact they go as low as 32hz +/-3db so 2 of them might get you more then what you are looking for actually. Heard that sub with the Kin Minis and wow that truly threw a nice soundstage. and very rich sound.

Kin sub for $200 more and dig 3hz lower with more displacement but 2 Kin Mini sub could end up in a better result if you place them properly.

You can look at the details here.

https://kinmini.com/en/kin-mini-sub
Thank you BigAl87.

I have recently moved to an island and there are NO dealers for real HiFi/HT products here so I am dependent upon this forum, individual reviews and responses such as yours, and communicating directly with the manufacturer (as I had done). I am use to auditioning product in consideration for purchase and this is the first time that I will not be able to do this.

Do you know it there is a frequency response graph of the Totem Mini Sub available anywhere including in any magazine reviews? So far I have not found any nor have I gotten a response from Totem in my request for such a graph. But I do think that this sub could be the best for my application.
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Thank you BigAl87.

I have recently moved to an island and there are NO dealers for real HiFi/HT products here so I am dependent upon this forum, individual reviews and responses such as yours, and communicating directly with the manufacturer (as I had done). I am use to auditioning product in consideration for purchase and this is the first time that I will not be able to do this.

Do you know it there is a frequency response graph of the Totem Mini Sub available anywhere including in any magazine reviews? So far I have not found any nor have I gotten a response from Totem in my request for such a graph. But I do think that this sub could be the best for my application.
I have not seen one anywher unfortunately but any subwoofer will respond differently in different rooms, All I can say it sounded pretty flat at my dealer and low end extension is well below 50hz. My dealer is able fool customer having them think they listen to Monitor audio Silver 6 while it is Kin mini sub with Kin minis mounted on wall.

I owuld like you love to see a graph to see how it actually performs but i have yet to find one.

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Yeah! Thanks a lot. Will post results for sure and maybe work in progress as well.
Any updates???

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It's too early. Still working on the whole design project of the apartment - lots of stuff to consider aside of HT: kitchen, bath, bedrooms etc )

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I recently upgraded my home theatre speakers. I am in an apartment so couldn’t do anything too crazy. I ended up going with 4 Totem Mites, with a Mite-T Center.

These speakers sound amazing to my ears. Music has been great. I was concerned how they would work with movies, but I have had zero complaints to date.

I am looking into building out my home theatre setup with a pair of upward firing Dolby Atmos speakers. I know Totem doesn’t currently have any of these. Wondering if there are existing Totem users who have purchased 3rd party atmos modules. Is there a specific brand that would pair best with the Totem’s? Or does it not really matter?
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Hi all.

Need some advice on some Totem speakers.
My room is 17'x12'x8' with one opening on the left side of room towards the back about 4.5' wide.
Positioning for the L&R speakers are limited to the size of my fixed 100" 16x9 screen. The edges of the screen on both sides are 22" from the side walls.

Speaker i am looking at is the Rainmaker Center. I have a 19" stand and the height of the tweeter is about 4" on the speaker. That puts the tweeter roughly 23" off the floor. Do i need to tilt it up higher? Or is the dispersion on the center good enough?

I have not decided on mains yet but the Rainmaker make sense for obvious reason but what about the Sttafs?
Sttaf is more expensive but does not necessarily make it better. Will the Rainmaker center match the Sttafs?
I am buying these used so my choices are very limited.

I am trying to upgrade my Monitor Audio Bronze 2s.

Have been looking at MA Silver 2s which are 25% off due to new Silver line.
Totem speakers and Dynaudio X14s.

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I have not seen one anywher unfortunately but any subwoofer will respond differently in different rooms, All I can say it sounded pretty flat at my dealer and low end extension is well below 50hz. My dealer is able fool customer having them think they listen to Monitor audio Silver 6 while it is Kin mini sub with Kin minis mounted on wall.

I owuld like you love to see a graph to see how it actually performs but i have yet to find one.
When Vince Bruzzese was at my dealer a couple of years ago he was in the large high end room with his floor standing Element series speakers sitting on top which no one noticed were the small Kin speakers hooked up to a Kin sub. Until he told us we thought the big speakers were playing. My dealer said he sold about 8 Kin setups that night. This week I just purchased Aerial 5T's the Kin sub will be added to my system in a few months. Audio Video Therapy in Nashua NH is a full line Totem dealer and always has a Kin sub on display.
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Hi all.

Need some advice on some Totem speakers.
My room is 17'x12'x8' with one opening on the left side of room towards the back about 4.5' wide.
Positioning for the L&R speakers are limited to the size of my fixed 100" 16x9 screen. The edges of the screen on both sides are 22" from the side walls.

Speaker i am looking at is the Rainmaker Center. I have a 19" stand and the height of the tweeter is about 4" on the speaker. That puts the tweeter roughly 23" off the floor. Do i need to tilt it up higher? Or is the dispersion on the center good enough?

I have not decided on mains yet but the Rainmaker make sense for obvious reason but what about the Sttafs?
Sttaf is more expensive but does not necessarily make it better. Will the Rainmaker center match the Sttafs?
I am buying these used so my choices are very limited.

I am trying to upgrade my Monitor Audio Bronze 2s.

Have been looking at MA Silver 2s which are 25% off due to new Silver line.
Totem speakers and Dynaudio X14s.

TIA
The Rainmaker center is in the Rainmaker/Hawk family, however it should sound fine together with the Sttaf.

The sttaf will play a little lower, but the Rainmaker is slightly more aggressive sounding. However with ARC the room correction should kee them sounding very close if you mix the 2.

The Silver 2 will sound larger then both the Excite X14 or Rainmaker. The excites are my personal tastes, they have good bass, full mids and smooth detailed highs and probably the best balance. The Rainmaker I thought had a slight recession in the mids but throw a large soundstage and good bass too. The Silver 2 highs are probably the most aggressive (rainmakers not too far back) but good detail to compete with the others, the best bass response but maybe a little too prominent. However overall they're very, very much all in competition with each other. Depending how you like your sound... will really determine what you'd prefer.

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Speaker i am looking at is the Rainmaker Center. I have a 19" stand and the height of the tweeter is about 4" on the speaker. That puts the tweeter roughly 23" off the floor. Do i need to tilt it up higher? Or is the dispersion on the center good enough?
I would experiment with tilting. You don't have to do this. but it will sound different aimed straight out vs. aimed more towards your ears.

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The Rainmaker center is in the Rainmaker/Hawk family, however it should sound fine together with the Sttaf.

The sttaf will play a little lower, but the Rainmaker is slightly more aggressive sounding. However with ARC the room correction should kee them sounding very close if you mix the 2.

The Silver 2 will sound larger then both the Excite X14 or Rainmaker. The excites are my personal tastes, they have good bass, full mids and smooth detailed highs and probably the best balance. The Rainmaker I thought had a slight recession in the mids but throw a large soundstage and good bass too. The Silver 2 highs are probably the most aggressive (rainmakers not too far back) but good detail to compete with the others, the best bass response but maybe a little too prominent. However overall they're very, very much all in competition with each other. Depending how you like your sound... will really determine what you'd prefer.
Thanks for your insight. Can't really go wrong with any of those which is comforting.

Hope Jonas2 doesn't think i'm stalking him. Lol, following him from the Anthem thread.

The Dyns are more expensive only because not many on the used market.

The Totems are in the middle. Whereas the MAs i am just trading straight up.

The Rainmakers are the only 4ohm in the group. Is the MRX 720 powerful enough to drive them for HT?
I watch movies @ -15, -10 on the volume dial.

I have external power for the Center and Atmos.
The MRX 720 will be powering the L&R, Surrounds and Rears. So 6 channels and 2 @ 4ohms.

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The Rainmakers are the only 4ohm in the group. Is the MRX 720 powerful enough to drive them for HT?
I watch movies @ -15, -10 on the volume dial.

I have external power for the Center and Atmos.
The MRX 720 will be powering the L&R, Surrounds and Rears. So 6 channels and 2 @ 4ohms.
My Totem dealer has always insisted that Totem in general is more "power hungry" than the average speaker, but I'm thinking you'll be O.K. Just listen for distortion/clipping.

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I would experiment with tilting. You don't have to do this. but it will sound different aimed straight out vs. aimed more towards your ears.
The dynaudio center stand can work for all center channels it's like $150, but you can tilt at different degrees. Also the SF1 can be used on centers with lesser depths, X24 and Rainmaker both would work fine.

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Thanks for your insight. Can't really go wrong with any of those which is comforting.

Hope Jonas2 doesn't think i'm stalking him. Lol, following him from the Anthem thread.

The Dyns are more expensive only because not many on the used market.

The Totems are in the middle. Whereas the MAs i am just trading straight up.

The Rainmakers are the only 4ohm in the group. Is the MRX 720 powerful enough to drive them for HT?
I watch movies @ -15, -10 on the volume dial.

I have external power for the Center and Atmos.
The MRX 720 will be powering the L&R, Surrounds and Rears. So 6 channels and 2 @ 4ohms.
The Anthem will do fine with the rainmakers or any of the speakers you're considering.

I used an Anthem MRX300 to power my Dynaudio Focus 260s and it did fine. My Naim integrated amp did better tho.

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So 6 month old Rainmakers or 6 year old Sttafs?

Same price...

Most likely pairing with Rainmaker Center or even Dreamcatcher.

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So 6 month old Rainmakers or 6 year old Sttafs?

Same price...

Most likely pairing with Rainmaker Center or even Dreamcatcher.

TIA
Tough call.... I think totem speakers are built to last, so even tho the sttafs are 6 yrs old I think they'll be fine. The Rainmakers would match the Rainmaker center for a very coherent front soundstage. Of course you could always look into the Mite-T Center, which would match the sttafs. The sttafs will play a little louder and deeper... and personally I like soft dome and ribbon tweeters over metallic ones.

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Tough call.... I think totem speakers are built to last, so even tho the sttafs are 6 yrs old I think they'll be fine. The Rainmakers would match the Rainmaker center for a very coherent front soundstage. Of course you could always look into the Mite-T Center, which would match the sttafs. The sttafs will play a little louder and deeper... and personally I like soft dome and ribbon tweeters over metallic ones.
Really appreciate your input. It is invaluable to me when searching for speakers.
Interesting enough, the Rainmakers are 4ohm yet the center is 8ohm. The Mite-T center is 4ohm and the Sttafs are 8ohm.

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Interesting enough, the Rainmakers are 4ohm yet the center is 8ohm. The Mite-T center is 4ohm and the Sttafs are 8ohm.
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Tweeter buzzing on totem Sttaf?

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I was wondering if anyone else has had experience with this sort of thing. I am getting a vibrating sound from the tweeter one of my Sttaf speakers. This occurs at moderate to high volumes and seems to be a certain frequencies. I have checked for loose external connections and the screws on the binding posts are tight. Has anyone else had this experience? If so what was the path to resolution?


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Have you tried the standard procedure of swapping left for right to see if the offending noise moves with the speaker or is within the one channel?

Try that first if you haven't.

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Have you tried the standard procedure of swapping left for right to see if the offending noise moves with the speaker or is within the one channel?

Try that first if you haven't.
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I did try that an the problem moved with the speaker.The tweeter sounds pretty scratchy and it gets worse at higher volumes. I sent an e-mail to Totem yesterday and have not heard back from them yet. I wonder if the tweeter is covered by the warranty.
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I did try that an the problem moved with the speaker.The tweeter sounds pretty scratchy and it gets worse at higher volumes. I sent an e-mail to Totem yesterday and have not heard back from them yet. I wonder if the tweeter is covered by the warranty.
Yes, it would be covered under warranty so long as they determined it wasn't damaged by abuse or something like that.

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Yes, it would be covered under warranty so long as they determined it wasn't damaged by abuse or something like that.
hehe I am back guys, yeah Jonas but usually if Op has a dealer Totem is not to picky for that they won't even verify heck they even replaced my tweeter cause i torn the foam surrounding them on my Mites but they were a bit responsible for that.


I will also say i probably abused the driver of my Forest signature driving them 5 db above reference with my powerful Bryston amp and they replaced the drive within the warranty no questions asked.

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hehe I am back guys, yeah Jonas but usually if Op has a dealer Totem is not to picky for that they won't even verify heck they even replaced my tweeter cause i torn the foam surrounding them on my Mites but they were a bit responsible for that.

I will also say i probably abused the driver of my Forest signature driving them 5 db above reference with my powerful Bryston amp and they replaced the drive within the warranty no questions asked.
That's excellent!! Totem no question has fantastic service, it's just that technically speaking - they could use the "abuse" card if they wanted/needed to, at least according to their policy, which really is the policy of most if not all speaker manufacturers!

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