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post #7111 of 9229 Old 04-25-2012, 11:39 AM
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basically like the photo, except the boss wanted a little less red in the cherry I think...

I was torn on the upgrade... I wondered just how much of a difference there was... anyone have experience between the two versions?
and 700 was gonna push the price to nearly 3k total... getting dangerously close to high Spousal Disapproval Factor

Don't sweat the upgrade. I was able to compare the dome and ribbon side by side and the difference wasn't that big. Yes, the RAAL sounds more natural to my ears, but if I hadn't been comparing them side by side the differences wouldn't be obvious and I would have been happy with either.

If budget isn't an issue, then I say go for the RAAL, but if budget is an issue, the standard dome is still one sweet tweeter. Enjoy!

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Jim quoted me 45 days. But I went with walnut veneer, which is has a deep grain that requires a bit of extra time to fill. Since each filling application takes 3 days of spraying, sanding and drying even a couple of extra layers can really add on the time. I understand there is art involved here, so I'm OK with waiting. I'd much rather Salk & co. take their time to do it right. My only (potential) regret thus far is whether or not I should have gone with the ebony veneer.

Ebony is my favorite. =D

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Ebony is my favorite. =D

Don't rub it in. :-(

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i am surprised that my ip address is not permanently banned by the fedex website... i'm surprised the system didn't crash i hit "refresh" so many times...

I believe I've mentioned TrackThis before. Combined with twitter (a geeky tool that may be difficult for audiophiles to grasp as it also is heavily dependent on 'tweeters') or SMS it's a beautiful tool for instant notification of package tracking updates. My 4311CI is currently in transit to Richmond, VA

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I thought you ordered Philharmonic 2's?

I did. =D

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Don't rub it in. :-('''

Haha Sorry!

Ebony is expensive, so I probably wouldn't have gone with it personally.

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Ebony is expensive, so I probably wouldn't have gone with it personally.

It would have been at least another 2 grand for the set. So it was either better drivers or the ebony.

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It would have been at least another 2 grand for the set. So it was either better drivers or the ebony.

In that case, I definitely wouldn't have gone with the ebony!

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In that case, I definitely wouldn't have gone with the ebony!

Ebony is quite a popular color.


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Any idea how big Jim's team is? Does he build the crossovers, install drivers all by himself? I'm sure he has folks to help him with the cabinet work..

And how many pairs they build each month given Jim's meticulous attention to cabinet details...?
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Any idea how big Jim's team is? Does he build the crossovers, install drivers all by himself? I'm sure he has folks to help him with the cabinet work..

And how many pairs they build each month given Jim's meticulous attention to cabinet details...?

Based on the number of signatures on the birth certificates I've seen there are a number of people involved.

I'm pretty sure this is all Jim does:



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Based on the number of signatures on the birth certificates I've seen there are a number of people involved.

I'm pretty sure this is all Jim does:


Bahahahahah NICE!!! :P

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Yeah I know it might bug me, but I figured I could sell them in a year or two and get a decent amount for them...
I try to avoid going " well for a little more I could get this or that..." I figure there is always something better out there...
So ill just be happy... For now ;-)
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I was in the same situation as you. My thoughts were, "Sure the RAAL is better but is that something you'd really notice if you haven't heard them in an A/B?" I ended up going with not just supercharged SongTowers but a supercharged SongCenter as well because I know how I am. Based on past purchases I knew it'd nag at me if I didn't go with the upgraded version.

But still, I wonder if maybe I should have stuck with the standard version and paid for the veneer I really wanted (ebony). Because you grow accustomed to speakers, but a fine furniture finish is always nice to look at.

i would do exactly what you did... given the choice between veneer and drivers, drivers win every stinkin' time...

although you do "grow accustomed to your speakers", that doesn't mean you enjoy them less as time goes on...

as far as the raal goes and whether it's "worth it"... first, if you are going to spend the money one way or the other, it's certainly "worth more" than a custom veneer (it's not like the standard veneer is a truck liner black box )...

second, and subjective... i have never heard any salks other than my own, so i cannot compare tweeter a and tweeter b... what i can say is that the raal (as implemented in my speakers) is the "best" tweeter i have ever heard (and that i have heard a LOT of speakers)... to me, if you ain't gonna starve the children, it is well worth the relatively modest upgrade fee...

but that's subjective, and not comparative...

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I am not sure how BIG Jim's team may be........ the speaker birth certificate for my speakers had about 15 signatures on it !


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I have heard a LOT of speakers

Out of sheer curiosity, what speakers have you heard?

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...given the choice between veneer and drivers, drivers win every stinkin' time...it's not like the standard veneer is a truck liner black box...

You nailed it.

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Don't sweat the upgrade. I was able to compare the dome and ribbon side by side and the difference wasn't that big. Yes, the RAAL sounds more natural to my ears, but if I hadn't been comparing them side by side the differences wouldn't be obvious and I would have been happy with either.

If budget isn't an issue, then I say go for the RAAL, but if budget is an issue, the standard dome is still one sweet tweeter. Enjoy!

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Based on the number of signatures on the birth certificates I've seen there are a number of people involved.

I'm pretty sure this is all Jim does:



LOL!

Looks like Jim took some of that cash and had some work done.

You know we love ya Jim.

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LOL!

Looks like Jim took some of that cash and had some work done.

You know we love ya Jim.

Naturally, I'm kidding. (He's working on my speakers, so of course I'm kidding.) If Jim's like any of the business owners I know he's busting his hump dawn to dusk running his company and trying to keep up with all all our crazy emails.

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Naturally, I'm kidding. (He's working on my speakers, so of course I'm kidding.) If Jim's like any of the business owners I know he's busting his hump dawn to dusk running his company and trying to keep up with all all our crazy emails.

I'm pretty sure that is not the case. He for sure should have a nice grip on everything happening there.
It would be really good if the salksound website has a "About Us" page with all the folks working there, with a brief description of what they do. It is a nice way to know the folks "behind the scene", who make such wonderful speakers possible.
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Naturally, I'm kidding. (He's working on my speakers, so of course I'm kidding.) If Jim's like any of the business owners I know he's busting his hump dawn to dusk running his company and trying to keep up with all all our crazy emails.

This is the more realistic presentation. I've seen his shop, and there is no lollygagging going on there. I can also guarantee he's not rolling in profits from his speaker/audio company.


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I can also guarantee he's not rolling in profits from his speaker/audio company.

Even if he was, I have never understood the negative connotation people associate with others being successful, especially running a small business. If not for Jim, none of us would have speakers. He SHOULD be rolling in profits from his efforts. I know he has a number of people on his payroll, and the good news is that he gets to do something he loves, which many people never achieve.

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I hate to say it, but that picture is hilarious.
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You're right, but it's been 47 days (since I've made the deposit). I've visualized the layout, planned the setup process and measured where everything's going about 100 times. A man can only take so much!

Hah! It's been 51 days, 11 hours and 27 minutes since I ordered my Philharmonic 2's and center (but who's counting?), and I've done the same about as many times. I can take a little more...

It's a race! Dennis, if you're listening please oh please let me win

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My only (potential) regret thus far is whether or not I should have gone with the ebony veneer.

It's taken me 3/4 of my life to realize regrets don't pay off. I fret like hell doing research and making a decision, but once it's made I never look back, never think "what if". It works well, and each "next time" that comes up is a little easier. You made the right choice - you don't want to be like that Monkish dude

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The V3's and its center are hardly ever mentioned here.
Is it because it shares the same price range as the HT2TL or because its just a older design?
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You made the right choice - you don't want to be like that Monkish dude

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The V3's and its center are hardly ever mentioned here.
Is it because it shares the same price range as the HT2TL or because its just a older design?

Mostly, yes. The HT2-TL's also sound better from what I've been told by those who have directly compared them. If you're still planning on going with HT3's then you've got nothing to worry about. The two links that Funkmonkey posted are great deals, especially the one for under $4000. If I had a beefy amp I'd think about making that guy an offer. Now, the Monster Center, however, is...well, it's a monster! That thing will not be outperformed by anything but the SoundScape C center IMO.

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I heard he has a third nipple. Shhh, he's listening.


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Thanks, unfortunately going with HT3's would mean buying amps, a new stand, a new receiver with pre-outs, etc.

The used market really opens doors if your lucky enough to snatch up something awesome...
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Thanks, unfortunately going with HT3's would mean buying amps, a new stand, a new receiver with pre-outs, etc.

The used market really opens doors if your lucky enough to snatch up something awesome...


And that is why this hobby almost never ends...

Oh BTW, all those things on your list are worth it although it may take some time to get there....

FWIW - for anyone thinking about external amps off a pre-amp, its worth the extra money to shoot towards a dedicated preamp right from the get go... IMO


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It's taken me 3/4 of my life to realize regrets don't pay off. I fret like hell doing research and making a decision, but once it's made I never look back, never think "what if".

I know I'm buying the right speakers and I know the "standard" walnut veneer is going to be beautiful. The only "regret" I have is whether I would enjoy looking at the walnut as much as I would enjoy looking at the ebony. On the scale of regret that's about as miniscule as it gets.

On another note, when I told my g/f of the delay she was genuinely disappointed--more than I was even. It seems that, despite the ribbing I get for being an a/v geek, she is emotionally invested in this upgrade as well.

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