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post #811 of 9207 Old 05-11-2008, 02:34 PM - Thread Starter
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On Wednesday I officially became a Salk owner!

My SongTowers arrived Wednesday and so far I couldn't be happier. I probably have a good 15-20 hrs on them already, and they are really opening up.

A truly great sounding speaker top to bottom.

Woohoo! Congrats pal! Truly awesome!

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On Wednesday I officially became a Salk owner!

My SongTowers arrived Wednesday and so far I couldn't be happier. I probably have a good 15-20 hrs on them already, and they are really opening up.

A truly great sounding speaker top to bottom.

Pics please and congrats on the Salks.

Also, has anyone in this thread heard the Salk MBOW1 or CAOW1 speakers? I may be looking for a pair for my girlfriend.
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OK, picture time

I'll apologize in advance, my camera is sheet.





We will be moving in a few weeks. The new house has a bonus room that I get to use as a dedicated listening room. As I design that new room, I will be looking at stuff that will hopefully blend better with the look of the SongTowers.

(it also looks like it is time to dust under the rack )
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idiotec, those look gorgeous. The finish looks familiar though. Has Jim posted these before? also, which finish is it actually?
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idiotec, those look gorgeous. The finish looks familiar though. Has Jim posted these before? also, which finish is it actually?

They are actually just the stock cherry finish. I do love the way they turned out.
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Pics please and congrats on the Salks.

Also, has anyone in this thread heard the Salk MBOW1 or CAOW1 speakers? I may be looking for a pair for my girlfriend.


Hi I won't comment on the sound, since they're both my designs. But I would point out that the SongSurround MT is just the CA0W1 with 4th order slopes instead of 2nd order. We did that to match the 4th order slopes of the Song Tower and Song Center. It also means that both the woofer and tweeter can be flush mounted, which most people prefer from an appearance standpoint. Their basic sound is very similar. I'm not sure whether anyone has received a Song Surround MT, but if they have, you could ask them about the sound.
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OK, picture time

I'll apologize in advance, my camera is sheet.





We will be moving in a few weeks. The new house has a bonus room that I get to use as a dedicated listening room. As I design that new room, I will be looking at stuff that will hopefully blend better with the look of the SongTowers.

(it also looks like it is time to dust under the rack )

Spectacular! I am very happy for you buddy!

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Enjoy the new speakers, they look great.
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The grain of the veneers looks more exotic than i would expect from a standard cherry finish. They look really nice!

Did you use spikes on your hardwood floor???
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The grain of the veneers looks more exotic than i would expect from a standard cherry finish.

Thats the beauty of the clear coat finish, brings out/magnifies all the depth of that beautiful wood.

Very nice looking indeed.... Great job Jim, and congrats to the new owners...
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The grain of the veneers looks more exotic than i would expect from a standard cherry finish. They look really nice!

Did you use spikes on your hardwood floor???

The camera picks up the grain a bit more than how they look in person. However, there is a lot of interest to the wood. It looks very nice.

I am using the spikes. The spikes that come with them are a nice soft rounded spike that seems to work well on hardwood without chewing up the floor.

I have to say, the more I listen the better it gets!!! The record that is in the background; George Benson - White Rabbit, is a very cool piece IMO. Spanish infused jazz with micro detail and dynamics that can almost be startling!
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The camera picks up the grain a bit more than how they look in person. However, there is a lot of interest to the wood. It looks very nice.

Those cherry SongTowers look wonderful! I also have a pair, and their color changes depending on the lighting. As you go through your music collection, you'll be in for a few surprises .

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Also, has anyone in this thread heard the Salk MBOW1 or CAOW1 speakers? I may be looking for a pair for my girlfriend.

The MBOW1 or CAOW1 both are excellent 2-way speakers. I have SongTowers and a pair of CAOW1s that I built several years ago. The CAOW1 was my favorite speaker and strongly influenced me in selecting SongTowers when they became available last summer. They both bear a strong family resemblance. Obviously, the smaller CAOW1 will produce less bass than the SongTowers, but as a smaller 2-way speaker, I think it's among the best available. I have directly compared the CAOW1 with the Ascend Sierra-1, the Von Schweikert VR-1, and the B&W 602, and I prefer it over any of those.

Common features - Salk Song Surround I (SSI) - CAOW1 - MBOW1
  • All three speakers are designed by Dennis Murphy. They share similar voicing especially within two octaves of the crossover region.
  • All three speakers have the same tweeter. I may be generalizing too much if I say the Hiquphon ¾" dome tweeters are the best dome tweeters available, but it would be more accurate to say, as used in Dennis Murphy's designs, there is no better dome tweeter. People who have only heard the more common 1" dome tweeters that typically cost about $35 or less do not know how good these Hiquphon tweeters are.
  • All three speakers come in ported cabinets of the same size. And they also have identical or very similar sounding woofers. The SSI and the CAOW1 use the same Seas CA15 woofer, and the MBOW1 uses the similar but less expensive M-130 woofer. It has somewhat less bass response than the CA15 woofer but costs much less ($66 vs. $24). They share a very smooth response across the all important midrange frequencies, which permits the very smooth handoff to the tweeter that characterize all of Dennis's designs.
  • The SSI uses a slightly different crossover than the CAOW1. It employs 4th order crossover slopes (24 db/octave) instead of 2nd order slopes (12 db/octave). I don't believe I can hear the difference, but Dennis says he can tell them apart. The SongTowers have 4th order crossover slopes, and Dennis wanted the other speakers in the Song series to share that feature.

So, I think that any of these three speakers would make excellent speakers for a smaller stereo system.
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^ That was a great explanation. Thanks for that, Swerdlow.

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Anybody here have any reports or opinions on the songsub?
I am assuming someone must have one in thier home by now
and based only on the info from the Salk site I have a deposit
on this sub,QWT towers and song center.
I am sold on all but the sub but only because I have heard no
actual user reports from this thread where I constantly lurk.
I currently have a Polk LSI,SVS cylinder sub 5.1 set up and
my only question is will this sub go as low yet be more accurate?
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Good question, Ronm. I'd be interested to get some impressions as well.

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Anybody here have any reports or opinions on the songsub?
I am assuming someone must have one in thier home by now
and based only on the info from the Salk site I have a deposit
on this sub,QWT towers and song center.
I am sold on all but the sub but only because I have heard no
actual user reports from this thread where I constantly lurk.
I currently have a Polk LSI,SVS cylinder sub 5.1 set up and
my only question is will this sub go as low yet be more accurate?

I had e-mailed Jim about 3-4 weeks ago asking about the SongSub. He replied he was making a slight design change to the cabinet to accommodate the amp. That's why none were out at that time. You might check with him for an update.
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I am surprised that Jim has not commented, but I am convinced he won't publicize a new speaker until it is a right as it can reasonably be at his targeted price range.
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Anyone here have impressions of the CAOW1 standmount speakers?

I have been thinking of getting something from Jim for awhile. Originally wanted Songtowers but went with Monitor Audio GS60s. Plan may be to use the MAs for surround and the Salks in a 2 channel bedroom system.

Most of the talk in the thread is about the larger Salks. Jim, please post if you want. I value your impressions and opinion.

EDIT: Missed Mr. Murphy's reply to my earlier question. I must have been tired or something. Thanks Dennis.

EDIT 2 : Thanks Swerdlow for the post too. I need to watch this thread more often me thinks.
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Well I have been enjoying my HT2's for a week now. I have going back to listening to music in 2 channel mode . With these speakers I use the pure audio mode of my Onkyo 885 processor. I cannot get over how wide the sound stage is and if I close my eyes it sounds like the singer is right there live with me. I placed my order for the Veracity center channel to go with my HT2's. I am looking forward to getting it .I cannot believe the base these speakers put out considering they are only 6.5 inches in diameter.

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^ Congrats DiCecco. Thanks for sharing your experience; truly awesome!

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Well I have been enjoying my HT2's for a week now. I have going back to listening to music in 2 channel mode . With these speakers I use the pure audio mode of my Onkyo 885 processor. I cannot get over how wide the sound stage is and if I close my eyes it sounds like the singer is right there live with me. I placed my order for the Veracity center channel to go with my HT2's. I am looking forward to getting it .I cannot believe the base these speakers put out considering they are only 6.5 inches in diameter.


You're going to love that center. Movies will take on a whole new clarity.
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Well I have been enjoying my HT2's for a week now. I have going back to listening to music in 2 channel mode . With these speakers I use the pure audio mode of my Onkyo 885 processor. I cannot get over how wide the sound stage is and if I close my eyes it sounds like the singer is right there live with me. I placed my order for the Veracity center channel to go with my HT2's. I am looking forward to getting it .I cannot believe the base these speakers put out considering they are only 6.5 inches in diameter.

Not trying to be picky, but base and bass are two totally different things. I assume you were talking about low frequencies (aka bass)?
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Yes, but bass is the base of music. The Top is the highs.
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Yes, but bass is the base of music. The Top is the highs.

Well put.

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After AKfest I've been really on the fence about my Songtower order.

Yesterday Jim was kind enough to let me come out and listen to his personal pair of his latest design. After a good 2 hrs of listening to the Squeezebox (which is another order I need to place), I've decided to cancel the ST order and go with the new open baffle midrange speaker. I've really fallen for the open baffle sound.

A big thanks to Jim and Mary for allowing me to come out and get a listen.

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Oh man that is awesome, scervin! I would just love to hear those badboys, as well as the HT3's.

So they are having a naming contest for the open baffle speaker over at audio circle. Please, go vote! I know we've got a lot of creative minds here, so I'm sure you can add some perspective.

Personally, I think they should be called:

Speaker Line: Clarity
Speaker Name: Sound Portals


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Oh man that is awesome, scervin! I would just love to hear those badboys, as well as the HT3's.

So they are having a naming contest for the open baffle speaker over at audio circle. Please, go vote! I know we've got a lot of creative minds here, so I'm sure you can add some perspective.

Personally, I think they should be called:

Speaker Line: Clarity
Speaker Name: Sound Portals


Sounds a little Star Trekish don't you think?
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BA Bravo II speakers are my surrounds and they blend in perfectly with the Song Towers... Oh, and let me throw in a fourth reason; they are $400 a pair BUT, CC has recently had them on close-out for $49 brand new and display units at $39 a piece.

So, I've been meaning to post my follow up... I put a pair of the Bravo IIs in my cart at the Circuit City website at $49 each. Got distracted and when I went to finish checking out, they were no longer avilable. :-( I ended up picking up a pair on ebay the other day for about $150 shipped. I'm gonna wait to hook them up until after I get my Song Towers. I'm curious to hear how the ST's sound with current Magnepan MC1's as surrounds.

Also, just out of curiosity, any suggestions as to whether the Bravos should be mounted in the corner or on the side of the wall?
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I'm looking for some thoughts on which room I should use for my 5.1 home theater (being used mostly for hi-rez surround music). I've got a pair of Song Towers on order that will serve as my front speakers. I just picked up a pair of Boston Acoustics Bravo II that I will use as my surrounds until I can afford another pair of Song Towers.

Currently using the main living room which is about 13' wide and 15' deep. The front wall is only about 10' wide and then opens to a kitchen and upstairs/downstairs staircase on the right side. The room also has a vaulted ceiling that angles up from 8' to about 10' in the center.

I also have the option of moving down to the family room. This room is about 9.5' wide and about 16' deep. Ceiling height is constant at about 8'.

Any thoughts?
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Nuanuce, seems like it is time for your speakers to arrive. Any word yet?
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