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I did.

The gadget on the inside came loose, and is just dangling. It seems that the glue that was holding it in place broke off or came unglued.

Any suggestions?

They're BIC Acoustech HT-75

Had to stop laughing before typing. Gadget? It could be the cone. This is the round "speaker" itself. A large magnet would be at the back of this. Or it could be the crossover. This should look like coils of wire and maybe some resistors, other circuit parts and a circuit board. If a cone is loose, you should be able to just fasten it back in place. If broken, perhaps you could get some heavy duty glue or resin. If the crossover is loose, do the same, but if the crossover looks damaged (coils or other parts), it will need replaced. Give us some more details.

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I would choose the pl-76's imo, I have the pl-89's & pl-28 but if i could do it again then i would choose the smaller ones ... I also live in a apartment and my living room is 13x16 that also opens into the kitchen and the the pl 89's & 28 fill it effortlessly . the sq should be the same only difference will be the 89's dig deeper .

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Just wanted to post the response I got from BIC America rep today regarding my question about the difference between PL76 vs PL89. Here it is:

Sir:

I know of no new products scheduled or under development at this time.

As long as you will use a subwoofer, there is no reason to prefer the 89 over the 76. The difference in low-frequency capability will be completely covered by the sub, and the difference in sensitivity is minor Either will play loud enough to satisfy you.

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The reply was also quick - a pleasant surprise. I am going to pull a trigger on PL76 5.0 system soon, can't wait. :-)
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Guys,

Just wanted to post the response I got from BIC America rep today regarding my question about the difference between PL76 vs PL89. Here it is:

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I know of no new products scheduled or under development at this time.

As long as you will use a subwoofer, there is no reason to prefer the 89 over the 76. The difference in low-frequency capability will be completely covered by the sub, and the difference in sensitivity is minor Either will play loud enough to satisfy you.

XXXX for BIC America Service.


The reply was also quick - a pleasant surprise. I am going to pull a trigger on PL76 5.0 system soon, can't wait. :-)

If the 89/76 are anything like the HT-88/76, the bigger speaker has better mid-bass.
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I did.

The gadget on the inside came loose, and is just dangling. It seems that the glue that was holding it in place broke off or came unglued.

Any suggestions?

Make sure the wiring is intact and re-secure it with glue or duct tape. If the wires broke loose then you'll need to solder it back together or find somebody to solder it for you. If the wire is broke off right at the component then that component will need to be replaced.
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Had to stop laughing before typing. Gadget? It could be the cone. This is the round "speaker" itself. A large magnet would be at the back of this. Or it could be the crossover. This should look like coils of wire and maybe some resistors, other circuit parts and a circuit board. If a cone is loose, you should be able to just fasten it back in place. If broken, perhaps you could get some heavy duty glue or resin. If the crossover is loose, do the same, but if the crossover looks damaged (coils or other parts), it will need replaced. Give us some more details.

Screw you!
Not everyone is tech savvy, or down with the tech lingo! LOL

The thingy majingy was loose okay? and it was rattling. And the hard gluey thing had broken off.
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Screw you!
Not everyone is tech savvy, or down with the tech lingo! LOL

The thingy majingy was loose okay? and it was rattling. And the hard gluey thing had broken off.

Only in jest David.

It sounds like you have it fixed then? I've had speakers before that have broken. They are usually easy to fix. In my case, I had a different brand of speaker and the mid-range woofer had blown. They sent me a new one. All I did was unscrew, unplug, plug in and screw on and FIXED!!

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Hey guys I have been planning to purchase a new setup next Christmas and was planning on getting the Klipsch reference 802's with a r62 center and r52 surrounds. Do you think the bic speakers would be close to the sound quality I would get from this setup? I would be buying the best horn speakers bic makes at that time just to give you an idea.

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I currently have the Klipsch icon VF-36 fronts with bose 301 for surround speakers and a terrible sony center channel with a velodyne 10" sub for my setup. I must say I am very happy with the VF-36's and cant imagine much better sound than that. So if I am happy then why would i want to upgrade? Well this is for my dedicated theater room I am setting up.

It's 16x22x9 and a blank canvas in our new home we are having built. Thanks for any incite.

Just curious if anyone out there can compare the setup I mentioned to the bic acoustechs.
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Just curious if anyone out there can compare the setup I mentioned to the bic acoustechs.

the vf-36's are prob the most likely to sound the same as a pair of bic pl-76's both use aluminum dome tweeters mounted in a horn the vf-36 just has 3 6.5 woofers compared to 2 on the pl-76

if you can afford klipsch i would get them imo
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the vf-36's are prob the most likely to sound the same as a pair of bic pl-76's both use aluminum dome tweeters mounted in a horn the vf-36 just has 3 6.5 woofers compared to 2 on the pl-76

if you can afford klipsch i would get them imo

I would say they are closer to the RF-62 II in both sound and design. I will have to disagree with suggesting Klipsch over Bic Acoustech. I have heard both and I can say with honesty that the Bic's just simply sound better.
The sound just seems cleaner clearer. They are a little less bright but still plenty bright for my tastes. I prefer a bright sounding speakers.
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Well I decided to order the FH6-LCR to give bic a spin. I figure this will give me a chance to demo their quality. I know they make better speakers than the one I ordered but it was 100 bucks and has to be better than my theater in a box 2x2 center channel being used now.

I had a matched Klipsch center channel and when we moved it fell off of the uhaul and split open like a watermelon. Thats why I am using such a crappy center currently. I am sure the FH6 will do fine. It will be here wed of next week if anyone would like a review.

Well I received the fh6-lcr last night and ran it through its paces for about 4 hours and must say it exceeds expectations. The sound matches extremely well with my Klipsch vf-36's and dialog comes through like never before. I can hear voices in movies,TV and games much louder and it blends with my towers to create a large sound. This is making me think hard about buying the full acoustech line for my bonus room.
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the vf-36's are prob the most likely to sound the same as a pair of bic pl-76's both use aluminum dome tweeters mounted in a horn the vf-36 just has 3 6.5 woofers compared to 2 on the pl-76

if you can afford klipsch i would get them imo

I have a $3000.00 budget for a new receiver and speakers. $1200 of that goes towards the receiver (Pioneer Elite sc-57) leaving 1800.00 for speakers. With the bic i would get a 9.1 setup with pl-89 for the fronts. With Klipsch I would get 2 rf-82's with a rc-62 center and a sub and then buy the surround speakers later. It's such a tough decision.
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I have a $3000.00 budget for a new receiver and speakers. $1200 of that goes towards the receiver (Pioneer Elite sc-57) leaving 1800.00 for speakers. With the bic i would get a 9.1 setup with pl-89 for the fronts. With Klipsch I would get 2 rf-82's with a rc-62 center and a sub and then buy the surround speakers later. It's such a tough decision.

for the money though the bic's are hard to beat . how big is the room ? do you need 9.1 ? the reason i ask is because you have a nice budget . and for the money i would look into getting a better sub to go with the bic's than the pl-200

EDIT : I seen above the room dimensions yea i would look into a better sub then the acoustech pl-200
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I would say they are closer to the RF-62 II in both sound and design. I will have to disagree with suggesting Klipsch over Bic Acoustech. I have heard both and I can say with honesty that the Bic's just simply sound better.
The sound just seems cleaner clearer. They are a little less bright but still plenty bright for my tastes. I prefer a bright sounding speakers.

you are not wrong because speakers are very subjective .... I'll just leave it too we both have our own opinions .
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for the money though the bic's are hard to beat . how big is the room ? do you need 9.1 ? the reason i ask is because you have a nice budget . and for the money i would look into getting a better sub to go with the bic's than the pl-200

EDIT : I seen above the room dimensions yea i would look into a better sub then the acoustech pl-200

The 9.1 thing is more so cause i thought it might be neat lol. I am building the house so I am getting it pre wired for 9.1 but I may not buy all 10 speakers at once. Thanks for all the advice.
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After my parents heard the clarity of my setup, they decided to get the FH6-LCR's. They sound pretty much the same as the HT-75's/HT-65 it just doesn't have the gloss finish and it has a little bit thinner grill. They are a bargain at ~$110/per.

Thanks for your input. I just ordered a pair of the fh6-lcr to try out. If they are as good as I suspect they will be, I will order another for the center, the much written about pl200, and some inwalls for the rears. I have not found many reviews on the fh6-w, but they should timbre match well, as they appear to have the same drivers.
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I had a quick question I have the the 5.1 set that included the HT 75's what would be a fair price for the set i have looked on ebay etc but these don't come up that often
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I have a $3000.00 budget for a new receiver and speakers. $1200 of that goes towards the receiver (Pioneer Elite sc-57) leaving 1800.00 for speakers. With the bic i would get a 9.1 setup with pl-89 for the fronts. With Klipsch I would get 2 rf-82's with a rc-62 center and a sub and then buy the surround speakers later. It's such a tough decision.

IMO... Get something more like the Pioneer VSX-52, which has PLENTY of power for speakers as efficient as these. That'll leave $2300 for speakers. You can get 7.0 Acoustech's for something like $1100-1200, leaving $1100 for subs. With that money, I would get something like the ED A5-350 or an Epik Empire.
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My new TV, A/V Receiver, Speakers, and Subs

LG 60" PZ750, Onkyo TX-NR808, Sony BDP-S570, Comcast HD, PL-89, PL-28, Sub 1 LFM-1 Plus ME Mode

Front of Room Grills Off for Picture Only

Rear of Room Surround Back L&R PL-66

Left Side Surround PL-66 & Sub 2 "End Table" LFM-1 Plus ME Mode

Right Side Surround PL-66

Close Up Kung-Fu Panda Blu-Ray

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My new TV, A/V Receiver, Speakers, and Subs

LG 60" PZ750, Onkyo TX-NR808, Sony BDP-S570, Comcast HD, PL-89, PL-28, Sub 1 LFM-1 Plus ME Mode

Front of Room Grills Off for Picture Only

Rear of Room Surround Back L&R PL-66

Left Side Surround PL-66 & Sub 2 "End Table" LFM-1 Plus ME Mode

Right Side Surround PL-66

Close Up Kung-Fu Panda Blu-Ray

How do u like that onkyo 808?
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I absolutely love it I would have no need for more features except for maybe Audyssey Mult EQ XT instead of just Mult EQ. And I bought it refurbished for $563 so I am very pleased. Easy to use plenty of power and love the Audyssey and the THX sound modes. So I would highly recommend the 808 or 809 which now has Mult EQ XT.

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Nice setup!!!

How did you run the wires so cleanly? In-wall?
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Just ordered a pair of fh6-lcr from sounddistributors.com. Anyone know how long it will take to receive them?
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Nice setup!!!

How did you run the wires so cleanly? In-wall?

Thanx. Yeah it took forever. I ran the wire (monoprice 14AWG in-wall rated speaker cable) under the carpet. I took the baseboard off drilled a hole behind where it would be directly below the speaker and another hole behind the speaker and used a wire fish to pull the wire thru.

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Just ordered a pair of fh6-lcr from sounddistributors.com. Anyone know how long it will take to receive them?

depends on where you live I live in central cali and it took no more than 3 days for my speakers to be to my door . once you get a tracking number it should give you a estimate
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I just hooked my Anthem 300 mrx to my PL-89 setup and I am blown away. I returned an Onkyo 809 to get the Anthem, and right out of the box it blew the Onkyo out of the water. So pumped to do the ARC.

However, I have noticed both of my PL-66's make very little impact with my surround sound. I have them tuned pretty high but it still sounds like they're not even on unless you stand right next to them. The two people I demo'd the speakers to asked if the rear ones were on.

I also noticed a harsh crackling noise on my left surround PL66. I think the tweeter is broken on it. I thought it was just a bad mixing in a particular song, but crackling came through on a bunch of other music I listened to.

I'm going to send them back to acoustic sound design tomorrow. What do you guys suggest I do? Should I get another pair of PL-66's and hope I got a bad batch, or should I try something different? I really want my surround speakers to be loud enough to make a big enough impact and make my system feel like a true surround sound system rather than just a 3.1 system.

However, I can say the PL-89's with my PL-28 and Epik Legend is rocking the roof off my house even before I've went into depth calibrating it. Super happy about that.
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I just hooked my Anthem 300 mrx to my PL-89 setup and I am blown away. I returned an Onkyo 809 to get the Anthem, and right out of the box it blew the Onkyo out of the water. So pumped to do the ARC.

However, I have noticed both of my PL-66's make very little impact with my surround sound. I have them tuned pretty high but it still sounds like they're not even on unless you stand right next to them. The two people I demo'd the speakers to asked if the rear ones were on.

I also noticed a harsh crackling noise on my left surround PL66. I think the tweeter is broken on it. I thought it was just a bad mixing in a particular song, but crackling came through on a bunch of other music I listened to.

I'm going to send them back to acoustic sound design tomorrow. What do you guys suggest I do? Should I get another pair of PL-66's and hope I got a bad batch, or should I try something different? I really want my surround speakers to be loud enough to make a big enough impact and make my system feel like a true surround sound system rather than just a 3.1 system.

However, I can say the PL-89's with my PL-28 and Epik Legend is rocking the roof off my house even before I've went into depth calibrating it. Super happy about that.

Hook the rear speakers up to the output of your front left and right off the receiver and see how that sounds. If they sound fine, you know the problem isn't with the speakers.
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Hook the rear speakers up to the output of your front left and right off the receiver and see how that sounds. If they sound fine, you know the problem isn't with the speakers.

Yep, turns out to be a bad speaker. I called up Acousticsounddesign and he said BIC will ship out parts for me.

Now, what's your guy's thoughts about getting another PL28 and using it as a rear surround speaker for a 6.1 setup?
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I have a pair of PL-76, and a pair of PL-89 still for sale. Have the original boxes and packing material.

Looking for $250 for the 76's, and $350 for the 89's plus shipping. I overbought when I was building my setup, and now that I have a baby on the way I need to move some speakers. PM me please if anyone is interested.
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Does this idea sound stupid or no?

Setting up my first home theater in our basement. I have an Epson 8350 projector and Pioneer VSX-1021 receiver. I am leaning towards doing an acoustically transparent screen with speakers behind it because;

a.) supposedly it is a "better experience"
b.) mainly want (ok the wife wants) a cleaner look without having towers and a LCR speaker out in the open.

So that points me to inwall speakers. Mainly the speakers would be used for movies but would occasionaly be used for music. Most of what I have read is that most in wall speakers should be built into an enclosure to sound decent. So one idea that I had was why not just use (3) FH6-LCR speakers as the mains and center all mounted vertically? When I framed my basement, I left a couple of inches between the studs and concrete so basically there is enough depth (approx 6.5 inches) to mount these speakers in the wall (still need to figure out how I would mount them). I am likely going to add a F12 or PL200 sub.

So anyways, are mounting the FH6-LCR's in the wall dumb?

Thanks for any constructive feedback!
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