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Theyre both good speakers but very different.
The tweeters are different. The Bics have a horn and will be brighter. The Infinity are a soft dome and will be warmer.
The Infinity is a 3 way so thats a plus if done properly. And in the Beta series I believe it has been.
The Bics are more sensitive so will be louder at a lower volume.
Sounds like youre buying used so it also depends on what else is in the package.
I assume you mean H100. Youre getting both subs?
Yes, I meant h100. I am buying it seperately because i found a great deal on it. I am also looking into a couple pl200s i have found for sale and plan on purchasing one as well.....

Both systems come with all wires needed but the infinitys have the receiver as a i stated.

Why do you feel they are so different? Simply because the acoutech are more efficient and bright because of the horns?

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If youre buying them locally why not go listen to them both? Atleast the towers.
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Hi guys,
I am looking to buy 4 pairs of in walls speakers and a center speaker (all in wall). I have to make my decision very soon and i'm torn between the BIC FH8-W and the Acoustech HT-8W. The first one seems to be a Horn speaker, and the 2nd isn't. Any recommendations?
Also, does BIC sell an center in-wall speakers?

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...Also, does BIC sell an center in-wall speakers?
http://bicamerica.com/index.php

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thank you for your help. I did look and BIC don't' sell any IN-WALL center channel speakers. So my question is, can i install either the Formula FH8-W or the Acoustech HT-8W horizontally? How about Vertically with the tweeters down and teh woofers up?
If you had to pick one, which speaker would you pick for watching Movies?
Thank you so much for helping me make my decision.

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The Acoustech series is supposed to be an improved version of the Formula series.
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The Acoustech series is supposed to be an improved version of the Formula series.
Hey, thanks for replying.
The Inwall acoustech are NOT horn loaded, right?
I was wondering if they have that characteristic Klipsch sound to them

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Hey, thanks for replying.
The Inwall acoustech are NOT horn loaded, right?
I was wondering if they have that characteristic Klipsch sound to them
Dont know if theyre horn loaded or not. Never researched Bic in-walls. Whats the Bic website say?
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Dont know if theyre horn loaded or not. Never researched Bic in-walls. Whats the Bic website say?
It doens't mention anything about horn loaded tweeters. Actually the tweeters are in teh center of the woofers, and above them there's a 2 1/2 inch midrange woofers.
Seems like a weird configuration to me. I wish the Formula series had tiltable tweeters.

I'm hoping if someone has heard either the Formula or the Acoustech series to chime in

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Just looked it up. The tweeter is in the middle of the midrange so the tweeter cant be horn loaded.
The regular Acoustech horn loaded tweeter sounds similar to a Klipsch tweeter but thats not what youre getting with the in walls.
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Just looked it up. The tweeter is in the middle of the midrange so the tweeter cant be horn loaded.
The regular Acoustech horn loaded tweeter sounds similar to a Klipsch tweeter but thats not what youre getting with the in walls.
yeah
That's why i'm gravitating towards the Formula Series. Not sure if i can install those horizontally though, cos BIC dont' make an in-wall center speaker.

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That's why i'm gravitating towards the Formula Series. Not sure if i can install those horizontally though, cos BIC dont' make an in-wall center speaker.
You cant mount one in wall vertically for a center?
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that's the question i'm asking

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that's the question i'm asking
I'm sorry i misread your comment.
I can, but that would push my tv up too high. I'm trying to keep the tv in a comfortable height so i'm not looking up all the time when watching

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That's why i'm gravitating towards the Formula Series. Not sure if i can install those horizontally though, cos BIC dont' make an in-wall center speaker.
I have 2 pairs of the BIC Formula FH6-W. I use them in my theater room as my Front Height and Front Width speakers. These are used with my BIC Acoustech setup. There work really well to compliment my system and I have no complaints. While I have these mounted vertically, I do have 3 pairs of BIC Muro Concept-6 (now discontinued...) in my family room 6.1 setup. The center is mounted horizontally under the TV. Both the FH6-W and Concept-6 have the same mounting setup so you can mount them veritically or horizontally - heck even diagonally if you wanted. I have the other 5 in walls mounted in my ceiling because I felt they would fit better aesthetically than having round ones. The in-walls and in-ceilings can be use interchangably. While some in-ceilings have tweaters that can be angled/pivoted, just isn't something I am so concerned with. While the tweeter is on one side and the woofer on the other, the space/distance is so minimal I don't feel that mounting the Concept-6 horiztonally has made the sound imbalanced or anything.

I would defintiely recommend the FH6-W. It's a great speaker particularly compared to the Concept-6s that I just needed something basic for my family room setup. I'll see if I can get some pics of my family room setup and post em...
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I have 2 pairs of the BIC Formula FH6-W. I use them in my theater room as my Front Height and Front Width speakers. These are used with my BIC Acoustech setup. There work really well to compliment my system and I have no complaints. While I have these mounted vertically, I do have 3 pairs of BIC Muro Concept-6 (now discontinued...) in my family room 6.1 setup. The center is mounted horizontally under the TV. Both the FH6-W and Concept-6 have the same mounting setup so you can mount them veritically or horizontally - heck even diagonally if you wanted. I have the other 5 in walls mounted in my ceiling because I felt they would fit better aesthetically than having round ones. The in-walls and in-ceilings can be use interchangably. While some in-ceilings have tweaters that can be angled/pivoted, just isn't something I am so concerned with. While the tweeter is on one side and the woofer on the other, the space/distance is so minimal I don't feel that mounting the Concept-6 horiztonally has made the sound imbalanced or anything.

I would defintiely recommend the FH6-W. It's a great speaker particularly compared to the Concept-6s that I just needed something basic for my family room setup. I'll see if I can get some pics of my family room setup and post em...
thank you. that's very helpful. I think i'll go with the FH8-W for the whole system. It's gonna be a 9.2 system in the game room and a 5.1 in the family room. It's good to know that i can mount them horizontally. And yeah, i didn't think it'd be a big deal with the tweeter being a bit to the side relative to the prime listening spot. the distance is just very small to matter. I'm also thinking of installing the surrounds upside down to keep the tweeters as close to ear level as possible. Not sure what your thoughts about that are.
I was told that the Acoustech HT-8W are the newer/improved version compared to the FH8-W, but the acoustechs in wall seem to be out of stock everywhere. I'm guessing BIC is getting ready to release a new version, but i don't have time to wait as my installer needs those speakers in a few days.

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I have 2 pairs of the BIC Formula FH6-W. I use them in my theater room as my Front Height and Front Width speakers. These are used with my BIC Acoustech setup. There work really well to compliment my system and I have no complaints. While I have these mounted vertically, I do have 3 pairs of BIC Muro Concept-6 (now discontinued...) in my family room 6.1 setup. The center is mounted horizontally under the TV. Both the FH6-W and Concept-6 have the same mounting setup so you can mount them veritically or horizontally - heck even diagonally if you wanted. I have the other 5 in walls mounted in my ceiling because I felt they would fit better aesthetically than having round ones. The in-walls and in-ceilings can be use interchangably. While some in-ceilings have tweaters that can be angled/pivoted, just isn't something I am so concerned with. While the tweeter is on one side and the woofer on the other, the space/distance is so minimal I don't feel that mounting the Concept-6 horiztonally has made the sound imbalanced or anything.

I would defintiely recommend the FH6-W. It's a great speaker particularly compared to the Concept-6s that I just needed something basic for my family room setup. I'll see if I can get some pics of my family room setup and post em...
Hi, anyone here installed the FH8-W or the FH-6W horizontally? I called BIC America and the lady told me i cannot install it horizontally cos it'd be longer than the space in between studs. But, when i think of other brands In-wall center channel speakers they are even longer and are meant to be installed horizontally. So what gives?

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Hi, anyone here installed the FH8-W or the FH-6W horizontally? I called BIC America and the lady told me i cannot install it horizontally cos it'd be longer than the space in between studs. But, when i think of other brands In-wall center channel speakers they are even longer and are meant to be installed horizontally. So what gives?
Dont know but the skeptic in me says the lady doesnt know what shes talking about. Call back later and see if you can get a second opinion.
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Dont know but the skeptic in me says the lady doesnt know what shes talking about. Call back later and see if you can get a second opinion.
they are a small company, i'm sure i'm gonna get the same person
It'd be weird if i call again and ask the same question..
Ugh this is a bummer. I really had my mind set on the FH8-W for a complete system. Now i might have to look for a different brand for the whole system, or at least for the center speaker

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they are a small company, i'm sure i'm gonna get the same person
It'd be weird if i call again and ask the same question..
Ugh this is a bummer. I really had my mind set on the FH8-W for a complete system. Now i might have to look for a different brand for the whole system, or at least for the center speaker
I used to work for a call center. She may not even be a Bic employee. Did she seem knowledgeable? Call back with a different question prepared and see who answers.
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I used to work for a call center. She may not even be a Bic employee. Did she seem knowledgeable? Call back with a different question prepared and see who answers.
I dont' think there's any way around it. If installed horizontally, the width of the speaker would be wider than the 16" stud spacing
I just called Klipsch and got the same answer about their center channel speaker. Not sure how much my installer will charge for cutting studs and reframing. My other option would be to get a standalone floor standing center channel, or to get another brand center speaker that would have a cut out dimension no more than 13.875" wide.

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Hi, anyone here installed the FH8-W or the FH-6W horizontally? I called BIC America and the lady told me i cannot install it horizontally cos it'd be longer than the space in between studs. But, when i think of other brands In-wall center channel speakers they are even longer and are meant to be installed horizontally. So what gives?
According to the BIC website the 6 inch should fit.
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According to the BIC website the 6 inch should fit.

There is normally 14 1/2 inches between studs.
You may have saved the day
Gonna head to the home now and ask the electrician if he can work with this..

On another note, i have no experience with horn loaded tweeters. Would they sound good if they were installed horizontally?

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Gonna head to the home now and ask the electrician if he can work with this..

On another note, i have no experience with horn loaded tweeters. Would they sound good if they were installed horizontally?
Some horns have a 90x90 disperion angle. In that case it wont matter. If its 90x60 it may make a small difference.
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Some horns have a 90x90 disperion angle. In that case it wont matter. If its 90x60 it may make a small difference.
Good point. I'll have to call BIC again and ask. I'll update this thread.

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So i called the BIC tech support to ask about the dispersion angle. Same lady answered. LOL. She gave me the number for the "more advanced" tech support. Called them 3 times, left 1 message. Have NOT heard from them yet.

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Ok. So i promised to update this trhead.
The dispersion angle for the FH8-W is: 90 degrees vertical, and 60 horizontal. Per tech support it is ok to mount it horizontally.

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