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post #451 of 4695 Old 08-13-2008, 11:54 PM
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I think there are others on here that have the 75's and 65 in a room closer to your size and they seem very pleased with it. I dont think that the 8" drivers are going to be necessary, in fact you may not notice a whole lot of difference really until you bump up the size of the room, but it'd really be up to you whether or not you wanted to spend the extra $.

And yes, the main room is about 8800sqft BUT its also got about a 12' long opening to a 24'x10'x8' kitchen and a couple of entry ways so its probably more like 12000sqft open area lol

The HT-75 will be far better than what I have now. I checked the specs on my speakers, and they are:

Front Speakers

Type: 2-W2-Way Acoustic-Suspension
Woofer: 3-1/8" cone woofer x 2
Tweeter: 1" Balanced-Dome
Frequency Response: 60 Hz-50 kHz
Max. Power: 110 W
Nominal Impedance: 8 ohm

Center Speaker

Type: 2-Way Acoustic-Suspension
Woofer: 3-1/8" cone woofer
Tweeter: 1" Balanced-Dome
Frequency Response: 60 Hz-50 kHz
Max. Power: 110 W
Nominal Impedance: 8 ohm

My stuff is total TRASH.
I will be getting 3 pairs of the HT-75 and one HT-65.
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lilmike2069, are you here man?
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The HT-75 will be far better than what I have now. I checked the specs on my speakers, and they are:

Front Speakers

Type: 2-W2-Way Acoustic-Suspension
Woofer: 3-1/8" cone woofer x 2
Tweeter: 1" Balanced-Dome
Frequency Response: 60 Hz-50 kHz
Max. Power: 110 W
Nominal Impedance: 8 ohm

Center Speaker

Type: 2-Way Acoustic-Suspension
Woofer: 3-1/8" cone woofer
Tweeter: 1" Balanced-Dome
Frequency Response: 60 Hz-50 kHz
Max. Power: 110 W
Nominal Impedance: 8 ohm

My stuff is total TRASH.
I will be getting 3 pairs of the HT-75 and one HT-65.

3 pairs? I hope you dont have neighbors within a mile of you. lol
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3 pairs? I hope you dont have neighbors within a mile of you. lol

Yep, 2 fronts, 2 surr, and 2 back surr.
Are they that powerful?
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lilmike2069, are you here man?

Yea whats up?
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I just finished with my set up with the trends amp and with incredible results. First off I've done my research on super kilo-buck systems for nearly the price of nothing so I expect to get some dis-believers out there. The component List.


Trends TA-10.1 15 watt amp $150
Sony PS1....first addition with analog outputs compared to $6000 CD players....yeah thats quite unbeliveable....but sure happy I kept mine.
Homemade cable's made out of Woods patio cord 40 foot (Walmart for $7.88)
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Bic Acoustech HT-75 and the H-100.

I got most of my ideas for 6moons.com....please read.
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/z...gmahornet.html

http://www.stereomojo.com/SHOOTOUT2007INTEGRATEDS.htm

The H-100 has speaker level in and also speaker level out so connections were simple. When set up this way I get 3.7 to 4 ohm readings back to the amp.

Just to give you some back ground of what I'm comparing my listening to I have an Onkyo TX-SR705 7.1 Receiver with I absolutely love, also SI's T-amp which I feel is a close 2nd. The speaker system is the Bic Acoustech 7.1 Home Theater.

So anyway, once hooked up, I popped in U2's Rattle and Hum. At 2 meters away with my Bic's toed in and sub next to the right speaker the sound was so clear, so crisp and I heard tons of crap that I never heard before after listening to this album for um-tenth time. The hair was literally standing on the back of my neck I was so moved by what I was hearing. I heard faint amp feedback on stage that was never present before, I heard Bono taping the mic so gently when singing which was a complete suprise....it was like my ear were right in front his mouth and the band was playing in my basement. I used to think this audiophile stuff is a bunch of hoopla, but for the first time I understand....there is a huge difference in SQ. The sound stage seemed huge and 3 dimensional. I also put in Pink Floyd to give that a shot.....seriously, people can get stoned just listening to it without abusing substances. At 96db sensitivity at a tiny 3-6 watts of power (thats only half way up) you can't even hold conversations it's so loud...the room is 15 X 22. I can't recommend this set up enough....you will absolutely be blown away.
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I will be getting 3 pairs of the HT-75 and one HT-65

I have the 75's as fronts.. I wish I bought the 88's..
I also have the H-100..it's just enough sub to make you want more..
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I am seriously considering these speakers, do you think that 1 BIC HT-85, 2 BIC HT-88's and 2 BIC HT-63's would be better than buying 4 of these:

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hb-1.html

And one of these center channels:

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hc-1.html
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I am seriously considering these speakers, do you think that 1 BIC HT-85, 2 BIC HT-88's and 2 BIC HT-63's would be better than buying 4 of these:

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hb-1.html

And one of these center channels:

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hc-1.html


This comes directly from BIC's website:
"All Acoustech models were designed and engineered with the assistance of the highly regarded Hsu Research Engineering Team."

I'm pretty certain that the tweeters that BIC and HSU use are the exact same tweeter. The woofers may be different but they were designed together. I think that you might get a similar sound (clarity, tone, and crispness, etc..) BUT with the BIC Acoustech towers, you are getting more speaker for money and you'll also get much better low end frequencies with the dual 8" woofers. Although I do like the rosenut cabinets on those HSU Bookshelfs
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Brand newbie here. I'm fairly certain I'm going to get an Acoustech setup. I keep hearing how important it is to match the fronts. I can't fit an ht-85 center in my setup, so I'll get an ht-65. How much would it matter whether I got the ht-75s or 88s? Would the different woofer sizes matter, or is having the same series speakers ok?
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Yea whats up?

Oh, I just posted my current pathetic speaker's specs to show you what an upgrade an HT-75 would be for me.
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Brand newbie here. I'm fairly certain I'm going to get an Acoustech setup. I keep hearing how important it is to match the fronts. I can't fit an ht-85 center in my setup, so I'll get an ht-65. How much would it matter whether I got the ht-75s or 88s? Would the different woofer sizes matter, or is having the same series speakers ok?

I'm in the same boat. My Onkyo 606 is coming next week and I need to build my HT. I really want the 88s but that 85 is just too big. I'd have to raise my TV 10 inches to make it fit which means the center will be 10 inches above eye level. I can fit the 65 inside one of my shelves so the TV wont have to move.

At least the 65 has the same tweeter as the 85 so it shouldn't be that different. I know at least one other person on here is using the 88s with the 65.

My room is only 18x14 so the 77 are still a good choice for me. I'm getting a sub but I'm not sure if it will be the Bic100 or and EA A2-300.
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I'm in the same boat. My Onkyo 606 is coming next week and I need to build my HT. I really want the 88s but that 85 is just too big. I'd have to raise my TV 10 inches to make it fit which means the center will be 10 inches above eye level. I can fit the 65 inside one of my shelves so the TV wont have to move.

At least the 65 has the same tweeter as the 85 so it shouldn't be that different. I know at least one other person on here is using the 88s with the 65.

My room is only 18x14 so the 77 are still a good choice for me. I'm getting a sub but I'm not sure if it will be the Bic100 or and EA A2-300.

I was told that the drivers have to match. The 88s should go with the 85, and the 75 with the 65.
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Hi there lil mike and the rest of you who helped me puchase a pair of 75's (luckily they shipped me the 88's like a few of you claimed), a 65, and a pair of 63's. Of course as all of you figured out I think there are no better speakers at the price we paid. I am blown away with the sound when watching uncompressed blu-ray tracks.

One thing I would like to know is the volume level you guys set your h-100 to with its volume knob. (I am one of those people who is scared to turn it up pass 5 for fear of it exploding)

My room is very weird and there are plenty of null spots, not to mention everywhere you move the bass gets louder and quieter by quite a bit. There is actually one seat which my brother and I call the "bass seat" because the LFE is so much louder when seating there. Prob is it's such a bad angle from the tv and I love to sit directly in front of the centre channel. I understand that this is due to poor acoustics so I made a poor boy's subdude with wood and stryofoam and it helped a bit, but I can't really move the subwoofer around because my old-fashioned italian mother (im still 18) will only allow it in the corner.

Anyways, I'm hoping turning up the knob will help maximize the bass without running my h-100 too hot.

(also if anyone is using the rx-v663 like me I'd like to know what settings your using)
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Ok so I am thinking about getting a set of the Cinema 6, my room is not very large and I think the 75s should be fine with a Sub. My question though is, I have a onkyo 605 and was wondering if I should run the front speakers through a amp or would it be sufficient just running them straight from the receiver?
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Ok so I am thinking about getting a set of the Cinema 6, my room is not very large and I think the 75s should be fine with a Sub. My question though is, I have a onkyo 605 and was wondering if I should run the front speakers through a amp or would it be sufficient just running them straight from the receiver?

I have a 705 and i believe that your reciever has a built-in amp.
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**** NOTE: Many members have posted pics of their acoustech setups throughout the pages of this thread

For anyone that is interested, I had ordered the following:

Pair BIC Acoustech HT-88 Mains
BIC Acoustech HT-85 Center
Pair BIC Acoustech HT-75 as rears
BIC Acoustech H100 Sub

HT-75 Review:


Is that a wireless kit next to your speaker? Is it a Rocketfish?
Is it possible to use the Rocketfish (or any wireless transmitter) for both the back surr, and surr (4 speakers) in a 7.1 setting?
I am trying to go wireless for all 4 back and surr speakers.
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Is that a wireless kit next to your speaker? Is it a Rocketfish?
Is it possible to use the Rocketfish (or any wireless transmitter) for both the back surr, and surr (4 speakers) in a 7.1 setting?
I am trying to go wireless for all 4 back and surr speakers.

No it is an antenna for my TV... I get great over the air reception on digital channels. I dont have that antenna anymore, I've got that front area cleaned up a lot and I now have the antenna outside. I would really recommend wireless transmission to rear speakers because of noise and interference. There will also be some loss of signal and attenuation. What I did for my surrounds was to install wall plates with the binding posts.

Heres the binding posts on the rears:


And here is how i've cleaned up the 'stage'.... the wires are no longer dangling from the tv and all that good stuff. I havnt started on the new TV stand yet... i'm not sure if i'm going to tackle that or not. I've got a great idea for it, but i'm not sure it'd be worth all the trouble and money.... plus i got me a puppy coming in about 7 weeks
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Here's a picture of my setup.....

Denon 1909 avr
Sony BDP-S350 Blu-ray
Toshiba A30 HD DVD
Motoraola DCH 3416 HD DVR cable box
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Love these speakers.....
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Lol, please guys it was just a simple question above (a couple posts up), I just wanted to know what level you guys set your h-100 to using its volume knob. I don't know if its better to keep the volume on the sub low but boost it a few dbs on the receiver or keep the receiver on 0db and boost the subs gain knob.

Thanks in advance.
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Lol, please guys it was just a simple question above (a couple posts up), I just wanted to know what level you guys set your h-100 to using its volume knob. I don't know if its better to keep the volume on the sub low but boost it a few dbs on the receiver or keep the receiver on 0db and boost the subs gain knob.

Thanks in advance.

It is customary to keep your subs gain at or below 9:00.
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Is it OK to leave the cover off of the HT-75?
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No it is an antenna for my TV... I get great over the air reception on digital channels. I dont have that antenna anymore, I've got that front area cleaned up a lot and I now have the antenna outside. I would really recommend wireless transmission to rear speakers because of noise and interference. There will also be some loss of signal and attenuation. What I did for my surrounds was to install wall plates with the binding posts.

Heres the binding posts on the rears:


And here is how i've cleaned up the 'stage'.... the wires are no longer dangling from the tv and all that good stuff. I havnt started on the new TV stand yet... i'm not sure if i'm going to tackle that or not. I've got a great idea for it, but i'm not sure it'd be worth all the trouble and money.... plus i got me a puppy coming in about 7 weeks

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Thank you for your quick response David, I guess I'm just screwed then, or my expectations were way too high. I've listened to the sub in every possible position in the room and the output is not great . . . It's just not "loud" and all of the other speakers overpower it . . .
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Thank you for your quick response David, I guess I'm just screwed then, or my expectations were way too high. I've listened to the sub in every possible position in the room and the output is not great . . . It's just not "loud" and all of the other speakers overpower it . . .

That or your sub db level on the AVR is extremely low.... or it is defective.
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Thanks bhazard. The db level on my receiver is at 0db for the sub and 0db for the LFE. I've learned everything I have on avs, so I know how to set the sub up and everything, not to mention that my room is quite small. Should the sub be blasting or am I expecting too much after reading forums where guys own these beast HSU subwoofers that cost a grand each.

Edit: Also the room opens into the kitchen and the rooms corners are not all square if that help someone help me. I placed the sub in the corner that actually is square with the woofer facing out into the room.
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Thanks bhazard. The db level on my receiver is at 0db for the sub and 0db for the LFE. I've learned everything I have on avs, so I know how to set the sub up and everything, not to mention that my room is quite small. Should the sub be blasting or am I expecting too much after reading forums where guys own these beast HSU subwoofers that cost a grand each.

Edit: Also the room opens into the kitchen and the rooms corners are not all square if that help someone help me. I placed the sub in the corner that actually is square with the woofer facing out into the room.

The sub should be pounding pretty hard in a smaller sized room.
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edited for stupidity.

Sorry to hijack thread, but is there anyone who's familiar with these BIC Acoustech speakers and Premier Acoustics PA-6F home theater system?
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edited for stupidity.

Sorry to hijack thread, but is there anyone who's familiar with these BIC Acoustech speakers and Premier Acoustics PA-6F home theater system?

I think most everyone here is familiar with the BIC Acoustech speakers. I've not heard the Premier Acoustics system but I do know that they are made in the same factory. The Acoustechs are supposed to be manufactured to a higher quality than the Premier Acoustics according to the BIC rep I spoke to. The Entire Acoustech system was also designed with the HSU engineers and the Premier Acoustics werent (i dont think). Anyway, sorry I cant give an opinion on the differences in sound having not heard them, but hopefully that little bit of info i gave might help in your decision making.
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I think most everyone here is familiar with the BIC Acoustech speakers. I've not heard the Premier Acoustics system but I do know that they are made in the same factory. The Acoustechs are supposed to be manufactured to a higher quality than the Premier Acoustics according to the BIC rep I spoke to. The Entire Acoustech system was also designed with the HSU engineers and the Premier Acoustics werent (i dont think). Anyway, sorry I cant give an opinion on the differences in sound having not heard them, but hopefully that little bit of info i gave might help in your decision making.

Thats interesting.

I'm a fan of the extra driver in the PA-6F. In addition, I'm not a huge fan of horns.

In addition the PA-6F comes with a 12" sub. I really wish I had something more to go off of than a few reviews that say it compares favorably to systems from Polk/Energy/Klipch that cost twice as much.
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Thats interesting.

I'm a fan of the extra driver in the PA-6F. In addition, I'm not a huge fan of horns.

In addition the PA-6F comes with a 12" sub. I really wish I had something more to go off of than a few reviews that say it compares favorably to systems from Polk/Energy/Klipch that cost twice as much.

I'm not sure of what extra driver you are talking about. There is only an extra driver in the rears, if this is the extra driver you are talking about, it will be negligible. The acoustech system also comes with a 12" sub (the H100) which is very highly regarded in the $300 and less category. I've read the Premier Acoustic and even the BIC venturi subs are sloppy. The only real difference from your post is the dome tweeters versus horns which you would find that the acoustech horns are not as harsh and bright as most horns. I can only speak on behalf of the acoustechs to say that they most definately compare favorably to the Synergy series Klipsch speakers that cost twice as much. I also personally think they look much nicer. Good luck on the research and the decision!
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