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The two holes that are in the bottom of the 75s are they for spikes? And if so why are there only 2 holes and not one on each corner?

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What crossover frequency settings is best for the HT-76, HT-65, and the H-100 sub?
I will be using the Onkyo SR-304 receiver.

there is no such thing as a ht-76 but the ht-75 is good at 80 hz, these things are tuned for a great range.
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The two holes that are in the bottom of the 75s are they for spikes? And if so why are there only 2 holes and not one on each corner?

I think they may be for stands. Spikes are out of the question because they would be at all four corners.
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I think they may be for stands. Spikes are out of the question because they would be at all four corners.

this question was asked a few months ago.. at that time I was told the holes were to accomodate a stabilzer base.. I was also told there's no stabilzer bases available for purchase from Bic.. go figure
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What crossover frequency settings is best for the HT-75, HT-65, and the H-100 sub?
I will be using the Onkyo SR-304 receiver.

The 304 is not THX certified, but the rule of thumb is to keep the sub crossover at 80Hz or less.

You might want to get an updated reciever man...that thing is old!
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this question was asked a few months ago.. at that time I was told the holes were to accomodate a stabilzer base.. I was also told there's no stabilzer bases available for purchase from Bic.. go figure

They told me that they never got around to designing the base... I guess they thought a new line of speakers and sub was more important.... I might have to take their side on this one It should be very easy to outfit your towers with spikes though. You can get spikes on ebay or something and then just drill for holes. No biggie.
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They told me that they never got around to designing the base... I guess they thought a new line of speakers and sub was more important.... I might have to take their side on this one It should be very easy to outfit your towers with spikes though. You can get spikes on ebay or something and then just drill for holes. No biggie.

So, if I'm concerned about my two year old tipping these over what would be the best solution? Custom base that is 12" square? Mount spikes?

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So, if I'm concerned about my two year old tipping these over what would be the best solution? Custom base that is 12" square? Mount spikes?

I have a two year old also, I have corrected him enough times to stay away from the speakers, sound equipment and the screen.
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So, if I'm concerned about my two year old tipping these over what would be the best solution? Custom base that is 12" square? Mount spikes?

Thats really up to you... a wider base will give you better stability. Spikes wont.
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The 304 is not THX certified, but the rule of thumb is to keep the sub crossover at 80Hz or less.

You might want to get an updated reciever man...that thing is old!

Yea but the 304 is cheap and people say its a good budget receiver. Would a newer one like a 606 produce better sound to justify extra $300? Dont really need the HDMI pass thru stuff.
Output on the 304 is around 65 watts but I don't need the speakers to be too loud.
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Yeah, mine knows not to touch the screen. I guess training will work. Thanks!

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Yea but the 304 is cheap and people say its a good budget receiver. Would a newer one like a 606 produce better sound to justify extra $300? Dont really need the HDMI pass thru stuff.
Output on the 304 is around 65 watts but I don't need the speakers to be too loud.

In all honesty your speakers are way too powerful and advanced for your reciever.
The 606 is a digital reciever with advanced audio codex, and it will indeed provide FAR superior sound than your 304. It's like using a Telegraph in the age of digital phones and IMs.
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Hey guys,

If anyone was on the fence like I was with what to get for surrounds, asd just dropped the price on the ht-63 to $139 straight up buy it now - so after microsoft cashback of 41.70, it comes to $97.30 shipped for the pair!
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In all honesty your speakers are way too powerful and advanced for your reciever.
The 606 is a digital reciever with advanced audio codex, and it will indeed provide FAR superior sound than your 304. It's like using a Telegraph in the age of digital phones and IMs.

This is just not true.

These BIC speakers are very very efficient, and even the moderate rating of the 304 will produce loud enough sounds for the average listener.

If the gentleman/woman is not going to be listening at or near reference levels, the small differences in sound quality between DD and Dobly True HD will go unnoticed.

The 304 is not the ideal choice for any sound system IMO. But if the user doesn't need HDMI [maybe not even hooking up a BD player] then having the 606 is not likely to make a big difference right now.
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I'll go look.

I haven't taken the 'plastic' off the bottom of the 75s. Since they are on hardwood floors..I'm seriously considering leaving them on. You woul never notice they are still on unless you look closely at the base of the speakers and I kind of like the idea of keeping the bottoms from getting scratched which will INEVITABLY happen with 2 small kids.

I had the same problem with the wood floors, and got some adhesive felt pads (about 1" in diameter) for the bottom at Home Depot. They were like $4, and work perfectly! Now my speaker is much more steady and NO scratches!
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What crossover frequency settings is best for the HT-75, HT-65, and the H-100 sub?
I will be using the Onkyo SR-304 receiver.

This question has been answered - just search the thread. It should be on page 5 or so. I listed the recommendations directly from the manufacturer.
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This is just not true.

These BIC speakers are very very efficient, and even the moderate rating of the 304 will produce loud enough sounds for the average listener.

If the gentleman/woman is not going to be listening at or near reference levels, the small differences in sound quality between DD and Dobly True HD will go unnoticed.

The 304 is not the ideal choice for any sound system IMO. But if the user doesn't need HDMI [maybe not even hooking up a BD player] then having the 606 is not likely to make a big difference right now.

What sound volume is the reference level?
What is your ideal choice for best bang for the buck receiver if its not the 304?
My PS3 is connected to the receiver through optical toslink cable.
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Congrats on the Marantz, you are going to love it. I hope you have a big spot set aside for its footprint. I turned my subwoofer 180 degrees and fired it into the room laterally then I put my unit on top of it. This of course is just until I can find a piano black finished cabinet to house the stuff later on.

I have a console that will house the receiver. It has plenty of space, however, it's closed on the back. I hope this doesn't cause an issue with heat ventilation. It will have plenty of space on the sides and enough clearance on top to vent. You mentioned that yours gets warm, but not noticeably hot. Any issues with having other components stacked on top of it? I plan on having a shelf above it with about 2 inches of clearance and then stack the vcr/sat-rec'r/dvd player on the shelf above.

Can't wait to get this to see the difference in sound. It should arrive on Thursday!
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What sound volume is the reference level?
What is your ideal choice for best bang for the buck receiver if its not the 304?
My PS3 is connected to the receiver through optical toslink cable.

If you have a PS3, you should jsut do yourself a favor and buy the 606 as suggested in this thread. It sometimes runs for very very attractive prices on Amazon.com.

HDMI will allow you to simplify the setup, and have the best possible sound/picture.

Reference level volume is very loud. It is the level that people mixing the sound for movies master it to.

This is why sometimes things such as dialog seem too quiet, in relation to the sound, and you're not able to find a 'balance' that fits your room.

Best bang for the buck IS the 606 IMO. but that doesn't mean you can afford it. If you can't, the 304 will play plenty loud, and it will sound good with these speakers, which do better than most with less overall power.

If you can afford the 606, that IS the way to go. The differences may be overall not huge, but, it will allow you to get the MOST out of BD's and the new high resolution sound formats.
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I am about to pull the trigger on a Acoustech 5.1 set, but I was told the H100 is being discontinued and being replaced by the VK-12... I can not find this anywhere on their website. Has anyone seen this? Just wondering if I should try to get the H100 or go with the VK-12, he said it was "improved" with a kevlar cone.

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I am about to pull the trigger on a Acoustech 5.1 set, but I was told the H100 is being discontinued and being replaced by the VK-12... I can not find this anywhere on their website. Has anyone seen this? Just wondering if I should try to get the H100 or go with the VK-12, he said it was "improved" with a kevlar cone.

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New VK-12! 1,000 watts! Kevlar cone! $35 more than the H100!

One week after I bought the H100..this thing comes out.



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More then half the search results have it listed as 500 watts still.
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More then half the search results have it listed as 500 watts still.

man, as much as I would have loved to wait for this seemingly much better sub, I am so pleased with the ht-100 - ill try not to let it bother me too much ...
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Who knows... it may not even be as nice. The frequency response is the same as the H100. They originally told me they were going to tune it a little lower for HT. Someone will have to email craigsub and see if he can rate it against all the others.

Maybe I'll get it....
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Since the freq response hasn't changed, the only reason to like the VK-12 over the H100 now is by power alone. If the H100 is more than loud enough for you, then it shouldn't do any worse than the VK in freq response...... but then again, no one has tested both yet.
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I got my H-64 L R, H-65 center, and H-100 yesterday from the ebay distributor. Thanks for the great info in this thread that helped me with my purchase. These speakers are an amazing deal, and throw in the cashback refund its too good to be true. I connected them to my 5 year old Onkyo HTIB receiver last night, they sound great. Cant wait to hear them when the 606 arrives later this week. The H-100 rattles the house. The movie poster frames in my theater were shaking. I later noticed the picture frames in the next room were thrown off level, Im lucky none fell off and broke, the wife would kill me, lol. I am very happy with the H-100.

Is it me, or is that VK-12 not even an Acoustech sub? It says Bic Venturi, which is a a totally different line of product if I understand correctly. The Acoustech line was desgined by Dr. Hsu I have read. Personally, Im glad I ordered and received my H-100 last week before they were replaced. It matches the the Acoustech LCR I got. This new sub has a different driver that doesnt match the Acoustech line going by the pictures.

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Right..my thoughts exactly. H-100..what..3-4 years proven as a VERY GOOD sub. VK-12..unproven..unknown..who knows? Its going to take some time to build that 'avs buzz'. ;-)

I'm very happy with my H-100.
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I just spoke with Mike Embers at Acoustech and he gave me some insight as to the VK-12 sub.

THE VK-12 SUB IS NOT THE SAME AS THE HT-200 SUB THAT WILL BE RELEASED IN JAN.

***The VK-12 was being released to makeup for their LACK of HT-100 subs that would also not be available for some time--THEY'RE ON BACK ORDER.***

THE HT-200 SUB WILL BE RELEASED BY JAN. And it will have THE SAME AMP as the VK-12----The new HT-200 will have an ALL BLACK LOOK (NO COPPER WOOFER). Mike does not know what the frequency tunning for the HT-200 would be at this time (My guess is that it will be tuned lower for HT).
The only difference between the VK-12, would be the KEVLAR woofer that will only be available on the VK-12.

If you want to get the VK-12 right now, you can order it from the Acoustech distributor (from their warehouse, they are not available via Ebay yet) for a limited price of $279 delivered. Mike Embers
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The VK-12 is also designed by Dr Hsu.
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I just spoke with Mike Embers at Acoustech and he gave me some insight as to the VK-12 sub.

THE VK-12 SUB IS NOT THE SAME AS THE HT-200 SUB THAT WILL BE RELEASED IN JAN.

***The VK-12 was being released to makeup for their LACK of HT-100 subs that would also not be available for some time--THEY'RE ON BACK ORDER.***

THE HT-200 SUB WILL BE RELEASED BY JAN. And it will have THE SAME AMP as the VK-12----The new HT-200 will have an ALL BLACK LOOK (NO COPPER WOOFER). Mike does not know what the frequency tunning for the HT-200 would be at this time (My guess is that it will be tuned lower for HT).
The only difference between the VK-12, would be the KEVLAR woofer that will only be available on the VK-12.

If you want to get the VK-12 right now, you can order it from the Acoustech distributor (from their warehouse, they are not available via Ebay yet) for a limited price of $279 delivered. Mike Embers
www.acousticsounddesign.com
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The VK-12 is also designed by Dr Hsu.

Wow, $279 is a steal for a 500 watt sub like that.
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