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post #2191 of 2206 Old 03-04-2011, 10:57 PM - Thread Starter
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Yo...Funk!! This is like bumping into someone at Safeway after months of not seeing him. Hope it's all going good with you and yours, buddy.

Thanks Mud, all is good here; I hope the same goes for you. I've been a little busy with the little one ruling the apartment, while I research 529 plans but every day she and I sit down for some quality listening time. She still LOVES jazz (bop, hard bop, and soul jazz; not a big fan of fusion or free-jazz), but has also been known to rock out every bit as hard as her Dad! Please keep me up to date on the next Oregon Coast GTG, I swear I will show up one of these times.

How many Pepsi cans to go before you get your SoundScapes?

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Thanks Mud, all is good here; I hope the same goes for you. I've been a little busy with the little one ruling the apartment, while I research 529 plans but every day she and I sit down for some quality listening time. She still LOVES jazz (bop, hard bop, and soul jazz; not a big fan of fusion or free-jazz), but has also been known to rock out every bit as hard as her Dad! Please keep me up to date on the next Oregon Coast GTG, I swear I will show up one of these times.

How many Pepsi cans to go before you get your SoundScapes?

Cheers

Haaaa...great report on the mini-monarch. She chooses only the good music.

Pepsi cans.....grrrr. $10,000 divided by $.05 = 200,000. 199,752 to go. I don't think I'm gonna live long enough to make it, Funk. On the other hand, if someone would releave me of these Aerials, I could do something good. I miss the old days, Greg. The great search for carnal-esque audio pleasures. And now that I know where heaven lies, I can't get there from here. Isn't that a drag?!

This year's GTG....well, we were so tired after last year's event that we sort of thought about doing cans next, and only inviting our wives (or girlfriends...haven't decided which).

Hey, speaking of such, have you bumped into Charlie Sheen yet on any of those sets you build down there? "I'm not bipolar, I'm bi-winner."

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Hmmm, let's see, I need some milk, some peanut butter, a couple of steaks....

oh, hey guys what's up? Didn't expect to see you at the Redmond Safeway!

Good to see a couple of familiar faces, figuratively speaking.

Me? Well, I was pretty darn happy with the sound of the WB Classe set-up, but I wasn't happy with the reliability of the Classe or the service I needed from WB to address a speaker cross-over problem, so I sold it all off and was planning to drop down a level in price. I got most of the way there and currently own a Denon AVR that has been virtually flawless operationally, and if it sounds worse than the Classe, that subtlety is lost on me. Went through several less expensive monitors, but ended up rebuying the WBs. Doh! Not because I think I need to spend what I did on them to get the sound I wanted, but to get the sound and the style, this is what works for me.

If I were going for sound quality alone though, I'd probably own a set of these:



Best speakers I've heard in a long, long time. Despite the all metal drivers, there is nothing metallic, cold or mechanical about their sound. Wickedly transparent, spacious, tonally right, and dynamic. Good stuff.

Good seeing you guys again.
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On the other hand, if someone would releave me of these Aerials, I could do something good. I miss the old days, Greg. The great search for carnal-esque audio pleasures. And now that I know where heaven lies, I can't get there from here. Isn't that a drag?!

I think that you would be able to sell them if you listed them, RJ. They are an excellent speaker, and very highly regarded... heck I loved the way they sounded, not quite as much as my HT3s but they do sound great. Lot's of people never even make it as far as you have in audio nirvana.

I miss the hunting days as well, finding the perfect speaker under $2 grand was elusive to say the least, but I found it (even though they cost more than double my target )

Haven't run into Charlie lately, but holy crap what a nut-job!!! Remember the old PSA "this, is your brain... this is your brain on drugs." They would have to use scrambled eggs for Charlie. Dude is out there.

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Hmmm, let's see...
Best speakers I've heard in a long, long time. Despite the all metal drivers, there is nothing metallic, cold or mechanical about their sound. Wickedly transparent, spacious, tonally right, and dynamic. Good stuff.

Good seeing you guys again.

Hey Tim,

thanks for the update... glad you are well, as well.

VIVID Audio??? Good sound huh. Not related to Vivid video, right?

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VIVID Audio??? Good sound huh. Not related to Vivid video, right?

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Hah, well, I don't know, but for an audiophile these are aural sex for sure. And then there is that provocatively shaped port hole below the bass driver that reminds me of a certain lady part.
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I recently added a pair of surrounds to my system (alla Jim Salk) and I am amazed at how much they actually contribute while watching movies....
I never thought that they were all that important, but they are...
Certainly no where near as important as your L-C-R, but they contribute a good amount and add significantly to the movie/sound experience.
Cheers, and I hope that life finds you all happy, healthy, and wealthy
...and with a damn good sound system (or set of headphones, at least)!cool.gif
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I too have been on a speaker quest. I got a pair of Aerial 7t's. They are driven by a Mcintosh MC252 fed by a Marantz AV 8801. I recently took the hi Rez plunge, downloaded the latest offering from David Crosby. I use the DAC in my Oppo 105. I literally can't stop sitting around listening to this masterpiece. The combo of the recording and equipment is by far the best musical experience I've had in my room to date.speaker quest done for this guy:)

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I recently added a pair of surrounds to my system (alla Jim Salk) and I am amazed at how much they actually contribute while watching movies....
I never thought that they were all that important, but they are...
Certainly no where near as important as your L-C-R, but they contribute a good amount and add significantly to the movie/sound experience.
Cheers, and I hope that life finds you all happy, healthy, and wealthy
...and with a damn good sound system (or set of headphones, at least)!cool.gif
-Funk

Hi Funk, I've been building my system slowly over the past 6 years, and finally ordered up a pair of surrounds, which will complete my PBN Montana set. I am looking forward to it, and I'm sure it will add another dimension to the movie experience. Enjoys yours as well!
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Well, look whose thread got the dust blown off it! Hahaaaa....

Hi Greg. Hi Tim. Hi Brandon. Hi........................

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I too have been on a speaker quest. I got a pair of Aerial 7t's. They are driven by a Mcintosh MC252 fed by a Marantz AV 8801. I recently took the hi Rez plunge, downloaded the latest offering from David Crosby. I use the DAC in my Oppo 105. I literally can't stop sitting around listening to this masterpiece. The combo of the recording and equipment is by far the best musical experience I've had in my room to date.speaker quest done for this guy:)

Sounds like an amazing system, enjoy!

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Well, look whose thread got the dust blown off it! Hahaaaa....

Hi Greg. Hi Tim. Hi Brandon. Hi........................

and hello to you RJ

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Hi Funk, I've been building my system slowly over the past 6 years, and finally ordered up a pair of surrounds, which will complete my PBN Montana set. I am looking forward to it, and I'm sure it will add another dimension to the movie experience. Enjoys yours as well!
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It is pretty cool, and I am glad I went the extra mile to get something quality for surrounds. Only took me 4(?) years to get them!

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That's ok....it took me 6 years! wink.gif
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Hi guys --

I'm now on the hunt for my first pair of really good FRs, having just moved back to LA form Manhattan. I've been listening to B&W PM1s for the last few years powered by a Denon 3312, but with more space and no shared walls, I'm ready to do a serious upgrade. Looks like this thread has been the foundation for many similar searches, so hopefully I'll be able to find my own path a little easier.

I'm looking at new and Agon, and will budget up to 10K for the FRs. I'll use the system for home theater as well, but will make my decisions based on 2-channel. I'm not yet sure what I'll use to power the system, but will be upgrading there too (possibly higher-end AVR with a separate 2-channel amp?).

I managed to make my way over to the Venetian at CES (I was there for business, but grabbed a few hours for myself), and listened to some really stellar speakers and some amazing cans. I didn't have much time and it was a bit of a zoo, so I didn't take any notes, so these are general impressions.

As preamble, I've always loved the B&W sound, and I do love my PM1s. I think of them as clean and tight, but with a little warmth.

My first stop was Vandersteen, and the Model Sevens were singing (pic attached). I was practically giddy as I entered the room, and loved what I heard. They were beautifully transparent, with excellent imaging and soundstage. For me at least, I was a little disappointed too -- they didn't really grab me given the price tag. At first I thought it was the room and the environment (lots of people, I was a little in a hurry), but my next stops made me think these just don't have the warmth and texture that I'm seeking. At the time, they were playing Fleetwood Mac's Second Hand News. All the accuracy and depth, but missing something. They were powering with Audio Research and an analog source (I'll come back to that later).

Next stop was Sonus faber, where I listened to the Olympica IIs (pic). These speakers really grabbed my attention, and did it so effortlessly! Considering they're less than a fifth the cost, I now appreciate you can't make decisions on curves, graphs and specs. I think they were using McIntosh, with an analog source. They delivered a full, organic sound to my ears with exceptional imaging and soundstage, and all the warmth that I crave. I had to move on, but knew that I'd be very happy with these. As I looked back at the photo I took, I could see they were running a sub. Wouldn't need it with the IIIs for music only I don't think, even though I don't think they qualify as true FR at 35Hz-30KHz.

And then I stopped by Canton. I poked around, but there was a group of folks having a meeting in the listening room. I could hear them pretty from the other side of the room and liked what I heard, and was curious about the price, and was going to grab a brochure and move on. She walked through the meeting to check the price on the speaker for me -- $10K. It seemed like enough of an interruption, so I tried to leave. She convinced me to stay ("You're here, you should sit down and listen to them!"). So she asked the five guys sitting around the living room if they'd move into the next room. I sat down, turned up the volume, and found a new favorite. The Reference 5.2DC delivered a much larger and dynamic soundstage, with seemingly the same warmth and expression. And here they were running without a sub. Pretty sure they were powering with Arcam here with a digital source.

Next up, Thiel. Sit down and not really impressed off the bat. I can't remember what was playing, but it really didn't sound great compared to where I'd been. Then he switched over to Norah Jones (I know - she makes most speakers sound great) and my opinion changed. Airy, bright but not overly so (they had sounded a but muddy with the prior track), accurate, warm, with good soundstage and imaging. Not as good as the Cantons or Sonus faber, but still really good. And then I learned that these speakers, the new TT1s, are about half the price at an MSRP of $5800. They also don't qualify as full-range, with a frequency response of 39Hz - 30KHz.

Thiel was using a digital source powered by Classe. Which brings me to a bit of a digression, but I'll bring it back around at the end. I also listened to Beyer T-1s, Sennheiser HD-800s and Audeze LCD-3s (and the new EL-8s). Audeze had a beautiful turntable made by the folks at Tri-Art Audio in Canada. They all sounded really good, but none blew my socks off like the Sennheiser Orpheus setup I got to hear at their booth. That was truly a delight. During my speaker wanderings, I passed by the Chord Audio booth and stopped to listen to the new Hugo TT paired with the Audeze LCD-3s. That setup, connected just to my own iPhone, sounded so much better than those cans at the Audeze booth with an analog source. So to get to the point for this forum, it's now clear to me how much of a difference the components between the source and the speakers can really make.

I wish I'd had the time to go back through and give another listen, brought my own test tracks (I'm building a list), and made notes. But I think I've at least made a solid start.

All of them were powered with gear out of my range, but I do plan to invest in a good stereo amp on top of an AVR without breaking the bank. I'm looking at Rotel, Cambridge, Arcam, Marantz, and possibly the Peachtree Grand X-1 on the stereo side, and Cambridge, Arcam and Pioneer on the AVR side. I'm skeptical that the AVR would be as good for stereo, but will listen before I just go out and buy two components. And I really really want that Chord Hugo TT!

Thanks for any advice, and hope to keep this thread going!

-- Mike
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Hey Mike... just saw your post! Sorry it took so long to catch it... I haven't been around AVS that much these days. Did you pick anything up yet? Interested in getting a top notch headphone rig as well, curious if you've explored any other options in the can world. From what I understand the Orpheus is a very tough act to follow.
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