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post #451 of 2224 Old 04-28-2008, 01:13 PM
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What speaker system are you pairing with your receiver? Tracking down a 7.1 setup at a reasonable price seems to be rather challenging.
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My points exactly: why even need video upscaling on a AVR if your BR/HD & your HDTV that you just blew a lot of money on already does all of that? All the latest gear supposedly can do this already. Really I see no reason to upscale via an AVR unless you have old source or display equipment.

What about TV broadcasts? Aren't all HD broadcasts in 1080i and SD broadcasts in 480i? My guess is the AVR can't make them look much better but even a slight improvement would be nice especially with SD content. Not to mention the strain it takes off of your expensive HDTV by having the AVR do all the upconverting. Not sure about you but I would much rather have to replace a ~$500 AVR before replacing a ~$2000+ TV.
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What about TV broadcasts? Aren't all HD broadcasts in 1080i and SD broadcasts in 480i?

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My guess is the AVR can't make them look much better but even a slight improvement would be nice especially with SD content. Not to mention the strain it takes off of your expensive HDTV by having the AVR do all the upconverting. Not sure about you but I would much rather have to replace a ~$500 AVR before replacing a ~$2000+ TV.

Strain??
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The best price I found was $260 shipped, where do you see $240 shipped? I need to order this puppy today, and cancel my order with 6ave for the V663 that is on backorder. Thanks.

http://www.oneilaudiovideo.com/Produ...DG720&CartID=1

its a preorder price. the price will jump up soon.
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Strain??

You wanna explain those replies or are you only capable of one word answers?

And yes, constantly switching the resolution of the input to a TV causes strain on the decoding chip which increases the chances of a failure in the chip. Therefore having an AVR that consistently outputs the same resolution to the TV will help prevent any failures. It's the same concept as using an electrical filtering power bar to deliver a clean, constant signal to your high end electronics. It helps them perform better and last longer.
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You wanna explain those replies or are you only capable of one word answers?

And yes, constantly switching the resolution of the input to a TV causes strain on the decoding chip which increases the chances of a failure in the chip. Therefore having an AVR that consistently outputs the same resolution to the TV will help prevent any failures. It's the same concept as using an electrical filtering power bar to deliver a clean, constant signal to your high end electronics. It helps them perform better and last longer.


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I'm not really sure what's so confusing about this concept. The more you use a chip, the higher the chance there is of a failure. It may not be that common, but it happens.
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Does anyone have a screen shot of the GUI?
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LOL - Electronics aren't like mechanical parts, if a decoder chip is going to fail, it's going to fail in minutes.
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Haha, I would argue more, but the graphic made me laugh so I'll stop.
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Haha, I would argue more, but the graphic made me laugh so I'll stop.


Glad you decided to stop because stating a chip will be "strained" because it is doing what is was designed to do has zero merit.
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So, I don't want to scare anyone, but it looks like these receivers' specs were updated on SonyStyle, and maybe I'm blind, but TrueHD and DTS-HD MA are nowhere to be found. Now if you look at say the STR-DA5300ES, you'll easily be able to find it in the specs. I know the picture still shows the TrueHD and DTS-HD MA logos, but I have to say I'm a little concerned...

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So, I don't want to scare anyone, but it looks like these receivers' specs were updated on SonyStyle, and maybe I'm blind, but TrueHD and DTS-HD MA are nowhere to be found. Now if you look at say the STR-DA5300ES, you'll easily be able to find it in the specs. I know the picture still shows the TrueHD and DTS-HD MA logos, but I have to say I'm a little concerned...

All you need to know is this (taken from the main description on the SonyStyle website):

"In addition to decoding uncompressed audio (LPCM via HDMI), the STR-DG920 decodes the latest audio formats from Dolby® Labs and DTS® making this model fully compatible with Blu-ray Disc."


They'll update the spec list with "Yes" for both HD audio formats eventually.
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Alright, that's good enough for me. Thanks

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So I ordered my 720 from Oneil yesterday ($227, $241 shipped). Mine is on backorder, I should get it in 1-2 weeks. They said the price was going back up today. I checked and it's now $299! I guess people will have to look elsewhere for a cheaper deal.
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So I ordered my 720 from Oneil yesterday ($227, $241 shipped). Mine is on backorder, I should get it in 1-2 weeks. They said the price was going back up today. I checked and it's now $299! I guess people will have to look elsewhere for a cheaper deal.

That is an amazing price for an HDMI receiver. Too bad it does not have enough digital audio inputs, pre-outs, or banana plug speaker connections for all speakers. I would definitely have considered that receiver if I did not need those things.
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That is an amazing price for an HDMI receiver. Too bad it does not have enough digital audio inputs, pre-outs, or banana plug speaker connections for all speakers. I would definitely have considered that receiver if I did not need those things.


well it is a budget receiver, if you want all those things it jumps the prices up considerably. 720 is perfect for someone using only couple toslinks and majority of hdmi equipment.
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Pre-ordered the 820 from O'neil. great price! anyone know when they are set to receive them??
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lol i just came across this site and thought i would share

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uh oh..it censored the "f" word in the url but i was looking for some definiton regarding avs and that site came up at the top in google and i just thought it was funny yet helpful

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Pre-ordered the 820 from O'neil. great price! anyone know when they are set to receive them??

Well according to the release dates on Sony's website, the 820 is supposed to be released on 5/23 and the 920 on 5/28 so that means O'neil will most likely have them in stock and ready to ship out a couple days after that.
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Hi (1st post! :P )

BTW canadians, sonystyle.ca released the DG720 today, msrp 349.99$

Kinda high considering dollar value

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Specs are a little more precise on this site:

8 Ohms 20-20kHz: 95W + 95W
8 Ohms 20-20kHz THD: 0.09%
8 Ohms 1kHz (L+R): 105W + 105W
8 Ohms 1kHz THD: 8 ohms 1K 1%
8 Ohms 1kHz: 140W/ch
8 Ohms 1kHz THD (per channel): 8 ohms 1K 10%
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SonyStyle US site has now manual for 820. Check the THD numbers.
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SonyStyle US site has now manual for 820. Check the THD numbers.

Thank you for the update.

I'm personally checking the SonyStyle about every other day for the 920's manual to appear. It may not appear before its release day of 5/28 but would help me in planning its setup in advance though.
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So I ordered my 720 from Oneil yesterday ($227, $241 shipped). Mine is on backorder, I should get it in 1-2 weeks. They said the price was going back up today. I checked and it's now $299! I guess people will have to look elsewhere for a cheaper deal.

A few days ago I added it to my cart but never got around to ordering it. This morning I looked at the price and itw as up $50 or so. Luckily the one in my cart from a few days ago still had the $243 shipped price. So I went ahead and ordered it, I hope it stays at that price when they charge my card....

I also have another one at that price in my cart on my work computer... maybe I need 2?
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