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post #181 of 2224 Old 04-01-2008, 06:13 PM
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My 2 year old did not sleep through the night until 20 months! You don't know how lucky you are to have a docile child!

Here is a picture of all of the cables I replaced by switching to an HDMI receiver with analog to digital up conversion.

Nice photo. I have boxes of cables too, all from receiver/tech upgrades over the years.


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My 2 year old did not sleep through the night until 20 months! You don't know how lucky you are to have a docile child!

Here is a picture of all of the cables I replaced by switching to an HDMI receiver with analog to digital up conversion.

Jesus wept.
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I'm thinking about getting the 820. I am currently using an out of date Sony with only 2 optical inputs. I don't understand the HDMI inputs on a receiver??? Why/How would I hook up the things below?

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Can someone comment on the sound quality? How does it stack the the Sony 2007 DAX300ES series?

How is the DVD 1080p upscaling chip on these new receivers?

Finally, any word on when the new Sony ES line will be released? I'm hoping they sport HD Radio, which is something I'm wanting.

Guys, I would still like answers to these unanswered questions ... if you can, especially owners of this new Sony line (820 and 920)?

After looking at Sony's website, the only difference between the 820 and 920 is additional rear inputs and 1080p upscaling?? It doesn't mention the chip used for 1080p upscaling, so I would assume it's average at best? And that's the $200 difference between these two new units?
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Guys, I would still like answers to these unanswered questions ... if you can, especially owners of this new Sony line (820 and 920)?

After looking at Sony's website, the only difference between the 820 and 920 is additional rear inputs and 1080p upscaling?? It doesn't mention the chip used for 1080p upscaling, so I would assume it's average at best? And that's the $200 difference between these two new units?

The 920 isn't even out yet, therefore no one can tell you how it sounds.

As mentioned it uses Faroudja, it's clearly on the image of the 920 in the bottom of the unit.
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The 920 isn't even out yet, therefore no one can tell you how it sounds.

As mentioned it uses Faroudja, it's clearly on the image of the 920 in the bottom of the unit.

the pictures of the 920 show the DCDI logo, but the text has no mention of DCDi (correct?... i scoured the sites, but no mention)... this scares me a bit. wondering if sony will pull the chip and state that the pix was a pre-production model and that the written specs trump logos in pictures. i picked up the DG1100 for a bit north of $500 (not a costco member) and it seems (spec-wise) like a decent unit and by the looks of it, sony is discontinuing this "bridge" line and further dividing the ES and standard lines... but what do i know?
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eventhough sonystyle shows 5/31/08 release date on thier website for the 920, do you think stores, both retail and online, will get them earlier than that.
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...and by the looks of it, sony is discontinuing this "bridge" line and further dividing the ES and standard lines... but what do i know?

Any actual confirmation of this? The STR-DGx100 series has been released for less than a year.
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the pictures of the 920 show the DCDI logo, but the text has no mention of DCDi (correct?... i scoured the sites, but no mention)... this scares me a bit. wondering if sony will pull the chip and state that the pix was a pre-production model and that the written specs trump logos in pictures. i picked up the DG1100 for a bit north of $500 (not a costco member) and it seems (spec-wise) like a decent unit and by the looks of it, sony is discontinuing this "bridge" line and further dividing the ES and standard lines... but what do i know?

I called to ask and they don't have any more information than whats posted on sonystyle, hopefully the manuals will be up in May sometime.
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I'm thinking about getting the 820. I am currently using an out of date Sony with only 2 optical inputs. I don't understand the HDMI inputs on a receiver??? Why/How would I hook up the things below?

I currently have:
Sony STR-DE575 Receiver

1080p LED DLP Samsung T.V. (via HDMI to the cable box)

Time Warner 8300 HD cable box (via HDMI to T.V./optical to receiver) I was told that this box doesn't properly output sound via HDMI.

XBOX 360 w/add-on HD DVD player (via HDMI to T.V./optical to receiver)

Thanks in advance for any help.


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Any actual confirmation of this? The STR-DGx100 series has been released for less than a year.

absolutely no confirmation whatsoever (and all conjecture (and likely too much trust in a salesperson))... the DG1100 was reported to be discontinued by the folks at fry's (with no rumored replacement in the rumor mill). i would love actual confirmation one way or the other, of course, but right now, my gut's telling me the DG1100 i bought is a near-ES quality piece at a slash-and-burn price. but, again, what do i know? the existence of the DGX100 line is actually sort of odd and methinks would cannibalize the ES line.
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absolutely no confirmation whatsoever (and all conjecture (and likely too much trust in a salesperson))... the DG1100 was reported to be discontinued by the folks at fry's (with no rumored replacement in the rumor mill). i would love actual confirmation one way or the other, of course, but right now, my gut's telling me the DG1100 i bought is a near-ES quality piece at a slash-and-burn price. but, again, what do i know? the existence of the DGX100 line is actually sort of odd and methinks would cannibalize the ES line.

I was in Costco the other day and they were selling the 1100 for under five hundred bucks and looked like a very good deal but according to what I read on the box it does not decode any of the HD audio via bitstream but only accepts LPCM decoded by the player on the HDMI, is that correct?
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I was in Costco the other day and they were selling the 1100 for under five hundred bucks and looked like a very good deal but according to what I read on the box it does not decode any of the HD audio via bitstream but only accepts LPCM decoded by the player on the HDMI, is that correct?

Correct. Whereas the DG2100 corresponds to the DA4300ES (high def decoders included), the DG1100 corresponds to the DA3300ES (no high def decoders).
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absolutely no confirmation whatsoever (and all conjecture (and likely too much trust in a salesperson))... the DG1100 was reported to be discontinued by the folks at fry's (with no rumored replacement in the rumor mill). i would love actual confirmation one way or the other, of course, but right now, my gut's telling me the DG1100 i bought is a near-ES quality piece at a slash-and-burn price. but, again, what do i know? the existence of the DGX100 line is actually sort of odd and methinks would cannibalize the ES line.

[OT]Sony's inclusion of the 2007 STR-DGx100 line in addition to the STR-DAx300ES line is not without precedent. In 2006, they had an STR-DG1000 which was essentially an STR-DA3200ES.[/OT]
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[OT]Sony's inclusion of the 2007 STR-DGx100 line in addition to the STR-DAx300ES line is not without precedent. In 2006, they had an STR-DG1000 which was essentially an STR-DA3200ES.[/OT]

excellent point -- and well taken. (thinking out loud)... i wonder if they discontinued one line before announcing the other and/or when in the 2006 timetable did they release the consumer lines. in other words, is the timing of the 9/8/720 release typical in the timeline of events for these products -- or does the 9/8/720 signify a break in the normal release schedule?... (of course, i'm taking the line "discontinued" from the reseller, not from the manufacturer themselves, so it may be bubcus)...

btw: thanks for the explanation about about decoding vs. 1100/2100... might need to check out the 2100 before opening the 1100 box. either way, the DGX100 seems like a good value, so i'm fairly happy with the purchase so far.
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btw: thanks for the explanation about about decoding vs. 1100/2100... might need to check out the 2100 before opening the 1100 box. either way, the DGX100 seems like a good value, so i'm fairly happy with the purchase so far.

[OT, again ]FWIW, I've got a DG1000. It has one less HDMI input (2, version 1.2a) than the 1100, but it has 7.1 preouts and s-video I/O both of which I wanted. It transcodes all analog video to HDMI and plays TrueHD and DTS-MA provided you've got a player that does the decoding. When I bought it in early 2007 ($540 shipped), the STR-DGx10 series (also HDMI 1.2a) had just appeared IIRC. Compared to my unbadged ES, even the DG910 didn't compare IMO. Since buying it, I've had zero problems. I'm a happy camper - except, of course, when that devil upgrade-itis strikes. Then I have to go some place quiet and lie down until the urges subside. Can I get a witness?? LOL [/OT]
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Do you think the DG820 would go well with the PS3 and a 1080p projector?
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Does the STRDG810 do LPCM audio from HDMI as well? Kind of hard to decide between the two.

I use a PS3 so I don't care about onboard codecs.
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only if you have a very very good deal on the 810, otherwise wait for the 820.

~$200?

$270 on Amazon currently for 810.
MSRP for the 820 is $399 i would presume.
So street pricing on that initially could be $350.

hmmm, onboard processing & 1 extra channel is worth $80 more but not $150 more.

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~$200?

$270 on Amazon currently for 810.
MSRP for the 820 is $399 i would presume.
So street pricing on that initially could be $350.

hmmm, onboard processing & 1 extra channel is worth $80 more but not $150 more.

I could be wrong but I thought I saw/heard/imagined that the 820 will transcode (not scale) analog video to HDMI so you can run a single HDMI cable to the TV. Transcoding is not a feature in the 810 (910 has it).
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DG720 or DG820 would be enough to use with PS3?
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Yeah please answer the PS3 question

The Sony page says that the 820 will be available on 4/30 btw. The sony page lists the reciever for $399 but Amazon lists it for $499.
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I see now that the GSG820 is really targeted to a specific user who really uses HDMI for almost everything and just wants a simple inexpensive receiver. That definitely has its merits.

I've pre-ordered the DG820. IMO using HDMI for everything is ideal. I recently set up a home theater in this room and everything is HDMI: HDTV, HD DVR, Xbox 360, Blu-ray (future). I will never buy anything for this room that only uses old technology such as component, S-video, or composite. The 820 seems like a good choice for someone without legacy equipment.

In my living room with old devices like a Gamecube, SD TiVo, and VCR, the 920 would be a better choice.
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I could be wrong but I thought I saw/heard/imagined that the 820 will transcode (not scale) analog video to HDMI so you can run a single HDMI cable to the TV. Transcoding is not a feature in the 810 (910 has it).

U are correct on the lack of video processing for the 810 or any HD processing of any kind on the 810.
I was referencing to the Audio processing capabilities of the new 820 for the previous PS3 poster asking - as the video processing doesn't apply to me.

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So the 810 does onboard HDMI audio processing?

Question, I don't really care about upconverting analog signals to 1080p because as far as I'm concerned, if I'm watching something that's 480i, stretching and softening it up to 1080p isn't going to make it look better, but could potentially make it look worse.

How is the 810 versus the 720?

I work at Best Buy, and we have the 810 currently. We also have a 720 sitting around. I can get the 720 for about $200, but haven't checked the 810's price because I didn't know it could do HDMI audio.
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I see that Dolby True HD and DTS Master HD are starting to show up on the more affordable receivers....

That's a great sign for many people.

Switching of analog to hdmi 1080p is also a very big plus.

Add 3 or 4 hdmi ins and it's a wrap baby!

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So the 810 does onboard HDMI audio processing?

No
It passes it.

What were you going to use onboard AVR processing for?

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No
It passes it.

What were you going to use onboard AVR processing for?

Incorrect. All of the STR-DGx10 AVRs except the 510 process audio received via HDMI. They are NOT pass through. That said, only the 810 and 910 will process multichannel PCM from an HD-DVD or Blu-ray player.
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So the 810 does onboard HDMI audio processing?

Question, I don't really care about upconverting analog signals to 1080p because as far as I'm concerned, if I'm watching something that's 480i, stretching and softening it up to 1080p isn't going to make it look better, but could potentially make it look worse.

How is the 810 versus the 720?

I work at Best Buy, and we have the 810 currently. We also have a 720 sitting around. I can get the 720 for about $200, but haven't checked the 810's price because I didn't know it could do HDMI audio.

LMAO. Since you have access to both the 720 and 810, how about you do some after hours testing and then answer this question for the rest of us.
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