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HELP...I really only want to enhance my 2 channel but they have so many options. I have a Marantz 7008 that does just fine with my 5.1 HT but I need more power for my fronts for 2 channel. So what would be the best solution for me, there mAMP's, SX Series, STmkII Series or should I move to the MC Series? I'm driving Polk RTi A7's. I want the best sounding amp's they have and something that will take some of the harshness out of the highs and tighten up the bass. Any recommendations?
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The third gen modules used in the mAmps and ST MkII power amps should sound warmer than the 2nd gen modules but I wouldn't class either as warm.

If you are finding your speakers a bit harsh, you might want to consider the following.

a. run them in for the recommended amount of time - my Thiel CS2.4 was nigh unlistenable for the first 100-200 hours.
b. place them far away from side walls and corners and back walls
c. use some carpet and or room treatment materials for first reflection points
d. change the amount of toe in - sometimes firing it straight (i.e. away from the years may result in a less harsh sound).
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I agree about the third gen mAMPS... they are a significant step forward. also, keeping them on 24/7 gives them a thermal efficiency that helps keep the sound warm and consistent.

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I agree about the third gen mAMPS... they are a significant step forward. also, keeping them on 24/7 gives them a thermal efficiency that helps keep the sound warm and consistent.

Hey guys,

My Wyred Mini MC has arrived....Sounds great so far. I'm curious, will the amp sound even better after the 300 hour break in?...or is that exaggerated...

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I bought all my ICE units used, so really I can not say for sure if it's new. I tend to think there is exaggeration there, but I don't really know first hand.

I DO KNOW that you should keep them on though(speaking mainly about the power amps), they open up a little more if thermal balance is achieved/maintained.
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I don't have the mini MC but from what I recall there was no major changes in the sound on my ICEpower amps after the unit had been warmed up for a few days and kept on after wards.
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I recently bought a pair of Wyred 4 Sound SX-1000 mono blocks and a NAD M51 to use as a DAC and Pre Amp. How do i connect both monoblocks to the one trigger output on the NAD?. Can i safely use a 3.5mm splitter cable like this one

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3-5mm-Male-to-2-Dual-3-5mm-Female-Mono-Splitter-Adapter-/170614720552?pt=AU_Television_Accessories&hash=item27b96e0828

or

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3-5mm-Mono-Male-to-Dual-Mono-Female-IR-Audio-Cable-splitter-Y-adaptor-/330921516967?pt=AU_Television_Accessories&hash=item4d0c759fa7
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I recently bought a pair of Wyred 4 Sound SX-1000 mono blocks and a NAD M51 to use as a DAC and Pre Amp. How do i connect both monoblocks to the one trigger output on the NAD?. Can i safely use a 3.5mm splitter cable like this one

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3-5mm-Male-to-2-Dual-3-5mm-Female-Mono-Splitter-Adapter-/170614720552?pt=AU_Television_Accessories&hash=item27b96e0828

or

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3-5mm-Mono-Male-to-Dual-Mono-Female-IR-Audio-Cable-splitter-Y-adaptor-/330921516967?pt=AU_Television_Accessories&hash=item4d0c759fa7
. On my mamps i run a trigger from one amp to the other

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. On my mamps i run a trigger from one amp to the other

On the mAMP's, it has both input and output trigger slots allowing you to daisy chain them where as on the SX1000 it only has 12v input.
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I did not know that , I have just been leaving mine on 24/7

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So how much will the "WBT binding posts and TCX Kimber wire" add to the mAMP's sound quality?
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I recently bought a pair of Wyred 4 Sound SX-1000 mono blocks and a NAD M51 to use as a DAC and Pre Amp. How do i connect both monoblocks to the one trigger output on the NAD?. Can i safely use a 3.5mm splitter cable like this one

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3-5mm-Male-to-2-Dual-3-5mm-Female-Mono-Splitter-Adapter-/170614720552?pt=AU_Television_Accessories&hash=item27b96e0828

or

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3-5mm-Mono-Male-to-Dual-Mono-Female-IR-Audio-Cable-splitter-Y-adaptor-/330921516967?pt=AU_Television_Accessories&hash=item4d0c759fa7

I've heard cases where some owners of the Marantz AV8801 had their trigger outputs fried because there was too much current drawn.

I think Emotiva sells a trigger switch which can boost the power if you are worried about damming your NAD.

Personally if this is for stereo use, I'd just leave the amps on 24/7. The ICE modules sound better after a few days of use, if they are powered on from cold.
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I don't have the mini MC but from what I recall there was no major changes in the sound on my ICEpower amps after the unit had been warmed up for a few days and kept on after wards.




Just an update....I have been using the mini MC for a couple of weeks now, and am yet to turn it off. The break in time took less than 1 week....more than satisfied so far with Wyred gear.

I was using a 200x5 Rotel 1095....which sounded great, I must admit. But the wyred amp is better in almost every aspect of sound reproduction....


No more upgrades for another couple years....

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good for you...

should have gone with Bel Canto

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should have gone with Bel Canto


Naa,,..I think we should have went with D-sonic
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Which is better sounding?

The current SX-1000 monos
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the new ST-1000 mkII with Binding post and wiring upgrade

I do not want to have to trial both, so I wouldn't mind suggestions, then I will just trial that one. I don't necessarily need mono blocks as I could put the ST in the middle of the speakers with 5' speaker cables.
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I would buy two of these - as is:

https://wyred4sound.com/products/power-amps/mono/mamp
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Thank you, but I need more power than 250w @8
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So I am debating between a ST-1000 MKii or pair of SX-1000 for my system. I like mono amps but I understand the ST-1000 is a dual mono and has the new ICE chip which is to sound better than the older chips including the SX-1000. Again, I have only heard and read this from just a few people. I have not read any official reviews from reputable sources regarding the ST-1000 MKii. I have read most of your posts in this forum. I just want to get some more feedback before I move forward. I understand the ST-1000 MKii is fairly new thus the lack of reviews. Does anyone know if the ST can be bridged? I heard from W4S that the SX is more stable and go down to 2 ohms and ST can go down to 3 ohms. I would hate to purchase an SX only to find out they replaced the SX with a new ICE chip one day soon. Decisions decisions. Anyone want to chime in? In the end what are going to my advantages and disadvantages between the two?

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My understanding is that the SX series are for more inefficient speakers and/or more difficult to drive speakers. Otherwise, they recommend the mAMP or ST mkII.

ST cannot be bridged AFAIK.

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I bought all my ICE units used, so really I can not say for sure if it's new. I tend to think there is exaggeration there, but I don't really know first hand.

I DO KNOW that you should keep them on though(speaking mainly about the power amps), they open up a little more if thermal balance is achieved/maintained.
With regard to keeping them on, would you say this is only true for class-d amps? If it is not producing any noise, does it generate enough heat to matter?
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Wyred does have a standby mode, IMO there's no need to keep them "on".

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Thank you, but I need more power than 250w @8

I personally don't find any shortage of power on my Bel Canto REF500Ms and W4S mAmps compared to my REF1000Ms.

In fact I find the newer gen 500W modules sound less sterile than the older 1000W ones.
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Wyred does have a standby mode, IMO there's no need to keep them "on".

The ICEpower modules sound a lot better when they've been left on for a few days.
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With regard to keeping them on, would you say this is only true for class-d amps? If it is not producing any noise, does it generate enough heat to matter?

Most amps do need a bit to time to warm up.

Most of my Class A amps need about 15 minutes at least.
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