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post #20131 of 26371 Old 08-02-2011, 04:44 AM
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Funny thing, i was just talking in the phone with the rep, here , he insists that the price will be somewhere between 1000e-1500e.We"ll see.
Another funny thing, avp is 9800e, poa 9700e, a1ud 5700e.
That"s official price list.

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I signed up to get some news when the upgrade will be available.

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Funny thing, i was just talking in the phone with the rep, here , he insists that the price will be somewhere between 1000e-1500e.We"ll see.
Another funny thing, avp is 9800e, poa 9700e, a1ud 5700e.
That"s official price list.

That's a good price.

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I signed up to get some news when the upgrade will be available.

I'm signing up also but will take a closer look when the time comes.

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Funny thing, i was just talking in the phone with the rep, here , he insists that the price will be somewhere between 1000e-1500e.We"ll see.
Another funny thing, avp is 9800e, poa 9700e, a1ud 5700e.
That"s official price list.

Nice so the rest of europe does 8999euro for the avp but you need to pay 800 more but only 700 more for the poa ... In the Netherlands the keep the price the same as in germany that dictates most of the prices.

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I'm pretty sure the official DENON price posted on the DENON website here in the US was US$1045.00 a few months ago. I don't see how they could come back and increase that significantly in the short span of a few months. Converting that noted Australian price to US$ or Euros yields a US$2000 price which doesn't make sense since it would in effect be almost double what they officially announced.

That Australian website looks like a dealer - are they marking it up? Are they just guessing?

I would just relax and wait for the official update notification from Denon - They should have more details about how it all works. Folks like me who have only owned the AVP for months rather than years will be in a different situation too unless Denon plans to offer it as a permanent upgrade path rather than incorporate the new features into the production models (and raise the price).

I'll bet Denon doesn't even have all the loose ends worked out but I would think they couldn't substantially change the pricing as it was already announced.
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That Australian website looks like a dealer - are they marking it up? Are they just guessing?

I would just relax and wait for the official update notification from Denon

We are relaxed we are used to this and know we can't relate our prices to prices in the us of a. Indeed it has todo with having more layers and smaller markets also between the announce and now the yen change a lot. This difference has been compensated more in europe models than in the us of a for completive reasons.

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I don"t know what will they come up with as a price , but i suppose daniel and willyj are right.
The guy i talked on the phone had the impression that the price of the kit should be 1000e or less. When i told him about 2000au$ , he fell of the chair.
One thing is for sure though. The new avp"s when they come out of the factory , will be at least 1000e or $ more expensive than the present model.

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They have to be realistic otherwise not enough people will buy it to make it a worthwhile investment for them. I know I'm definitely not going to drop much more than $1k on this upgrade.
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That Australian website looks like a dealer - are they marking it up? Are they just guessing?

They are a distributor for Denon ( I guess now known as Denon Australia ).

The price they charge for the upgrade is concrete. They won't move from that and there is nothing we can do about that. If we don't get it no skin off there nose. There is a number of factors I have to look at anyway if I decide to go ahead.

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The guy i talked on the phone had the impression that the price of the kit should be 1000e or less. When i told him about 2000au$ , he fell of the chair.

Welcome to Australia jomark because that's how it is at times.

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Welcome to Australia jomark because that's how it is at times.

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Here's hoping that Denon stays close to their original price of $1045.00 USD.


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Here's hoping that Denon stays close to their original price of $1045.00 USD.

2500 Aus dollars converts to £1655 so i'm expecting a uk price of £1500 which is steep but i really want the xt32 so i'll be putting in some extra hours at work
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2500 Aus dollars converts to £1655 so i'm expecting a uk price of £1500 which is steep but i really want the xt32 so i'll be putting in some extra hours at work

Same here am starting to save !

Xt32 main reason plus wouldn't mind 3D capability for future.

Am just mighty pleased they're offering the option.

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I think we should all just sell our AVP's now while we can still get a few bucks for them .
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I think we should all just sell our AVP's now while we can still get a few bucks for them .

Haha good one ! :lol:

Nah I'd rather spend $2.5k aussie on an upgrade on my avp than spend $2.5 and down grade to something like 4311.

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Nah I'd rather spend $2.5k aussie on an upgrade on my avp than spend $2.5 and down grade to something like 4311.

Well that's the thing. Id rather upgrade then sell it at a loss and keep it for another 3-5 years( even more), still knowing I have a high end pre amp(I believe one of the best around). There giving us audyssey pro which I've wanted and have spoken with Chris (audyssey)back and forth. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Chris had some influence for that add on.

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Same here am starting to save !

Xt32 main reason plus wouldn't mind 3D capability for future.

Am just mighty pleased they're offering the option.

Spot on Al. I bet your glad you didn't sell it.

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I think we should all just sell our AVP's now while we can still get a few bucks for them .

Better sell now before you sink another $1K into it and have it become obsolete yet again in a year or two!
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Haha good one ! :lol:

Nah I'd rather spend $2.5k aussie on an upgrade on my avp than spend $2.5 and down grade to something like 4311.

Very true. Why spend $2.5k for the AVR-4311 when you can have pretty much the same feature set as the 4311 via the upgrade in the much better built, more legacy inputs (as Denon seem to be dropping these in new models to meet price points), better build quality (look at the weight of some of the new Denon receivers whom keep losing weight after each revision) and just plain better product in the AVP-A1HD for the same price.
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Well that's the thing. Id rather upgrade then sell it at a loss and keep it for another 3-5 years( even more), still knowing I have a high end pre amp(I believe one of the best around). There giving us audyssey pro which I've wanted and have spoken with Chris (audyssey)back and forth. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Chris had some influence for that add on.

whatever the price will be its almost a gamble on yes/no on the upgrade if you ask me.

pro:

xt32 and pro
faster hdmi i am guessing (new chips expect handshaking to be faster)
new formats
3d
value retainment if you sell you want to be able to sell a fully uptodate model

For me there is value in xt32/pro/faster hdmi, But i doubt i will ever have a big 3d thing going or the need for the new formats. I do think there is value in keeping it up to date.

So ill probably wait until some of you upgrade since i want to know if we will also see small software updates (remote iOS app support, streaming etc etc) and then after complaining its not cheap order it as a investment.

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Better sell now before you sink another $1K into it and have it become obsolete yet again in a year or two!

Hmm it seems the AVP-A1HD has been going fine for its owners for the past 3 years, and with the upgrade it should still be up to date enough for the next few years. While others have changed receivers over, and over
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Hmm it seems the AVP-A1HD has been going fine for its owners for the past 3 years, and with the upgrade it should still be up to date enough for the next few years. While others have changed receivers over, and over

very true, the avp is the longest have had av component of its type in that sort of role. before that had 3 avrs in less time ! the avp has kept me not worrying about changing receivers, its been saving me money

a good chance with this upgrade take me through another 3 years you'd think with a top class component that have been very happy with so far

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very true, the avp is the longest have had av component of its type in that sort of role. before that had 3 avrs in less time ! the avp has kept me not worrying about changing receivers, its been saving me money

a good chance with this upgrade take me through another 3 years you'd think with a top class component that have been very happy with so far

Hopefully another 5 years Al

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I'm curious to see what inputs they will use for heights/wide channels.

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I'm curious to see what inputs they will use for heights/wide channels.

That is the most intriguing thing I'm looking forward to seeing answered.
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I'm curious to see what inputs they will use for heights/wide channels.

You obviously mean outputs, since the input will be a digital source.
The AVP's outputs are fully assignable so you'll be able to pick your poison, but there's still only 12 channels no matter how you slice it. For instance you wouldn't be able to run three subs plus height and width... something would have to give.
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very true, the avp is the longest have had av component of its type in that sort of role. before that had 3 avrs in less time ! the avp has kept me not worrying about changing receivers, its been saving me money

a good chance with this upgrade take me through another 3 years you'd think with a top class component that have been very happy with so far

Pretty much the same with me, it's the longest serving front end I've had in decades.
The thing is I would have only considered changing it for an upgrade to the room correction, and since that's on the way, I think it's a safe bet that this will be my final pre-pro. That last little "nth" of performance XT32 should provide will pretty much take this unit to where I couldn't hear any further improvement were I to consider an "upgrade".... if there was one..
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the avp has 9.3

option 1: LCR + heights + rear + rear surrounds + 3 subs

option 2: LCR + wides + rear + rear surrounds + 3 subs

option 3: LCR + heights + wides + rears + 3 subs

option 4: (requires unit upgrade for 11.x in both rca and xlr terminals) LCR + heights + wides + rears + rear surrounds + 3-4 subs..

put in a 1in/3out sub audio processor and you could do 33.9-33.12 setup...

at present if you want 11.x on a denon avr's are the only option, for upgrades at this stage, to do 11.x in the avp's current chassis wouldn't be a possible outcome they'd have to make it taller..
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