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Anyone have an idea how I can get a jpeg picture displayed on the TV via the AVP while the audio input is directed to SPDIF? I would like to somehow show artwork while playing back from my squeezebox.

I did not see any appropriate way to direct anything to the display via the Denon Network API except with the iPod dock but that's a different animal. I can feed images from my NAS as well as audio files via the NET interface but there really is no way to program that as far as I can tell (ie access a file by folder/name via the API).
no idea on that, but can say the apple TV works pretty well in this regard, be it album art for tracks and albums, or just viewing photos from your library or home videos, youtube etc

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no idea on that, but can say the apple TV works pretty well in this regard, be it album art for tracks and albums, or just viewing photos from your library or home videos, youtube etc
Actually I have a Mac Mini and the OPPO that can play back single audio to the AVP, but the Squeezebox setup I have does it multiroom and I can control the AVP and the music with one integrated app (see some older posts of mine about iPeng). But I thought I would try to spice up the app so it showed the coverart on the TV at the same time (I must be bored)

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My A1HD vs 7702

I have an un answered thread with the same info, so forgive me if I repost here.

have the Denon AVP-A1HD, love the unit. Don't have the 3D upgrade (don't need 3D but would like better Audessey capability)

Over the last year, I've been wishing it was updated to the latest available features, but really didn't see the need to replace a working unit. Not to mention nothing seems close to the A1.

Jump forward to today.... the Denon has a problem. center channel - we get little to no volume. So I do have to send it in for repairs.

I bought the Marantz 7702 hoping it would give me great features and as good sound.

Basically theres no comparison on build quality, and Im not sure the sound is that good. The setup gave great balance of my 5.1 setup, but since I can't go back and forth, I'm thinking I should get the A1 repaired and stick with it. It just seemed to have a more natural sound.

Just wondering what people think....should I take this opportunity to replace the AVP? Or is the quality of the AVP so great I won't be able to replace it without investment.

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A number of us have an issue with LOW volume on the center for the first 30 minutes before it warms up. I love the AVP and don't think there is anything out I'd trade it for at the moment however hopefully by the end of next year something will be available.


Let us know how much the repair costs if you don't mind.
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I thought it was my imagination that it took time to warm up. However the volume on the center definitely is now broken. Surprisingly, the 7702 has been significantly louder across the board. Same POA amp.
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Center Channel Warmup

This sounds like a capacitor problem.

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This sounds like a capacitor problem.
That doesn't sound expensive, and hopefully won't be. I'm afraid they'll tell me its a cap on a board and i need to replace the board.... $100 in labor, $700 in parts.
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3D Upgrade

Anyone know if you can still get the hardware upgrade?

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Anyone know if you can still get the hardware upgrade?
Denon is out of the upgrade kits and nobody has had success tracking down a service center that has any left recently.
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This sounds like a capacitor problem.
What a horrible update......

Well I send my A1HDCI to a Denon center. They have no idea why the unit is acting the way it is. Guess it won't be a simple capacitor problem.

They told me they're waiting on Denon to get back to them. Since last week!

Boy am I dissapointed in the new Denon. Ive bought lots of their products over the years, including: 52xxs, 4800s, 3600, and love the A1HDCi, but if I can't get support and repairs on a $7500 unit, this is the absolute last Denon product I will ever buy!!!!

What's going on Denon.... where's the service I once loved?
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This sounds like a capacitor problem.
What a horrible update......

Well I send my A1HDCI to a Denon center. They have no idea why the unit is acting the way it is. Guess it won't be a simple capacitor problem.

They told me they're waiting on Denon to get back to them. Since last week!

Boy am I dissapointed in the new Denon. Ive bought lots of their products over the years, including: 52xxs, 4800s, 3600, and love the A1HDCi, but if I can't get support and repairs on a $7500 unit, this is the absolute last Denon product I will ever buy!!!!

What's going on Denon.... where's the service I once loved?
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Well , like other great Japanese firms , they were sold to a holding company along with Marantz and some other companies. So I guess they are having a hard time to overcome problems related to the service of their products. At least they are still standing up. Remember what happened to other great names like SANSUI, NAKAMICHI, AIWA, AKAI,NIKKO, and a bunch of others.

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Interesting...

I've been having a similar issue. FL and BL channels take about a half an hour to sound normal. And still the BL channel-level is set to +4 as opposed -4 to BR channel. I'm tempted to bring it to the service center and i bet it won't be cheap in any case.

I could live with if it stays like this, but i have a feeling it will get worse. Sometimes I can hear some high pitch electrical noise "while warming up". At first I was afraid that my active speakers were the culprit. But it turned out its the Denon as I used its 'free assign' and had same symptoms with same results.

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well the dealer wasn't kidding when he said it was heavy

Its as far as I could get it out of the boot of my car , before hailing help from some steroid junkie friends of mine

A few years back i "upgraded" from a Class Ab receiver to discrete CLASS D mono blocks plus marantz pre


No wonder i turned off after the first movie with the rowland amps - class D are fatiguing

Its embarrassing how much better the Denon POA is , and it only been on for 1 hour . EVERYTHING IS MORE DYNAMIC and there is more detail

Bridged 3oo watts into 5.1 system

I hope i never have to hear Class D amps again
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This sounds like a capacitor problem.
Well an update to my problems......

Looks like it was a capacitor problem. The kind folks at Audio Services (Denon Depot in VA) gave me a choice of replacing a board or just a bunch of bad caps. I went with the caps.

Total repairs: about $550.

While being repaired, I tried the Marantz 7702. I might be in my head, but I still think the Denon A1 sounds so much better. I thought the Marantz sounded "processed" and the Denon more natural.

Anyway, the tech at Audio Services said the caps go bad over time, due to heat and use....
Anyone have a good, and silent fan they use to push air out of the cabinet...

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Well an update to my problems......

Looks like it was a capacitor problem. The kind folks at Audio Services (Denon Depot in VA) gave me a choice of replacing a board or just a bunch of bad caps. I went with the caps.

...

thanks.
Maybe I should go into the repair business. No wait. After trying to fix the screen on my wife's shattered iPad, I am not opening up another electronic device ever again ...

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No wait. After trying to fix the screen on my wife's shattered iPad, I am not opening up another electronic device ever again ...
LMAO....before sending the unit in, I just had to open the cover and take a look, WOW! Paying someone was definitely worth it. There's no way I'd even figure out how to get this thing apart.
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After trying to fix the screen on my wife's shattered iPad, I am not opening up another electronic device ever again ...
Dropped mine on my carpeted floor the other day and I guess it landed just perfectly - broke the glass screen. Been thinking about replacing it myself but it did look like a job. Guess I will wait until I cut my finger to do anything with it.
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Dropped mine on my carpeted floor the other day and I guess it landed just perfectly - broke the glass screen. Been thinking about replacing it myself but it did look like a job. Guess I will wait until I cut my finger to do anything with it.
Trust me. Give Apple the $300 dollars to fix it.

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well the dealer wasn't kidding when he said it was heavy

Its as far as I could get it out of the boot of my car , before hailing help from some steroid junkie friends of mine

A few years back i "upgraded" from a Class Ab receiver to discrete CLASS D mono blocks plus marantz pre


No wonder i turned off after the first movie with the rowland amps - class D are fatiguing

Its embarrassing how much better the Denon POA is , and it only been on for 1 hour . EVERYTHING IS MORE DYNAMIC and there is more detail

Bridged 3oo watts into 5.1 system

I hope i never have to hear Class D amps again
You are overly reacting about the d-amps...

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The official Denon 2016/2017 flagship AVR (x9200w?) wishlist

Hello prior Denon flagship owners and users - do you have thoughts/comments to add to the below thread?

"The official Denon 2016/2017 flagship AVR (x9200w?) wishlist"
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I've been thinking how to move this discussion forward, so this weekend started to consider the back panel layout and the interior hardware layout as 2 key drivers.
This article gives one of the best re-caps and comparisions I've seen on the X7200W to what some consider the last flagship, the 5308CI (I'd have used the 4520CI but I'm prejudiced as owner of that)
http://www.audiogurus.com/learn/elec...-receiver/2977

Using back panel of x7200W as baseline:
>>Keeping audio and video board basic layouts as is
>>Should help with thermal management and EMI management issues


Here is mark-up of "keeps" and "deletions".
I realize this is debatable, but I truly see in 2016/2017 that a flagship has little need for true "legacy connectors" besides the bare minimum I've kept below.


Giving this result.
Since we are 2 years out, and the layout restrictions to keep the architecture of the x7200W, this seems "doable".....


Thoughts, comments, feedback?

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easy...just don't start with those as basis...otherwise its like trying to reverse engineer a Porsche 911 from a volkswagon beetle or something like that. or a ferrari from a fiat punto...

start with current avp-1hd 3d as basis...just remove all the composite, component and bnc video and you have plenty of space to add in several more channels of inputs of inputs and outputs
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I think they are focusing on AVRs rather than preamps. However, starting with the current AVP is a good idea.

Personally, I am ignoring everything which doesn't have XLR outputs.
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I think they are focusing on AVRs rather than preamps. However, starting with the current AVP is a good idea.

Personally, I am ignoring everything which doesn't have XLR outputs.
Better usage of space on the AVR/Pre-pro back could be done with these......frees up layout space and simplifies connections.

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Better usage of space on the AVR/Pre-pro back could be done with these......frees up layout space and simplifies connections.
But... why go to XLR when you can just put a D-SUB on both the Pre Amp & the Power Amp?
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But... why go to XLR when you can just put a D-SUB on both the Pre Amp & the Power Amp?
Well of course the D-SUB is on the new gear (flagship AVR/Pre-pro), and then the user can choose to use their already paid for and still good legacy XLR gear with that cable or new gear like you mention with just a D-SUB to D-SUB cable.
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But... why go to XLR when you can just put a D-SUB on both the Pre Amp & the Power Amp?
Those of us who have more than 1 amp (Parasound JC-1 x 2 + A51 in my case) would need some sort of breakout cable.
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