Originally Posted by Cal1981
Could some more of you lucky early 1909 owners post some impressions. Your comments on heat, lip sync, HDMI video quality with conversion turned off and, of course, the quality of the receiver's sound with the various audio codecs would be greatly appreciated while I wait for mine.
Played around with the 1909 this weekend and generally I'm very pleased. While I was a bit disappointed to get the old setup UI, once you get used to it there are a ton of useful options (renaming and deleting inputs, adjusting individual inputs, etc). Some impressions and a couple of questions:
- most importantly, it sounds great. I just plugged everything in and listened to music in Stereo and Direct to get a taste before running Audyssey. Of course, the real difference is after Audyessy. After running that and then making a few adjustments with a sound meter the system sounds terrific. I used Stereo, Direct, DD, and 7 channel stereo. No HD sound yet....more on Audyssey in a moment.
- to answer the questions above. No noticeable lip sync problems with either DirecTV or my Samsung Blu-ray DVD player. I have lip sync "on" and didn't have to go into the input menus to change the settings. Which is good, because while it looks like you have very fine control it also looks like it would be a pain in the ass to get it right if you do have to adjust the delay.
- I watched about an hour of TV followed by an hour of Slings and Arrows (great Canadian series) on DVD followed by another movie. So, about 4 hours in a row. None had blockbuster sound so I didn't have the levels terribly high. That said, no apparent heat issues.
It did take a couple of months for my Onkyo to manifest its heat problems so it's hard to say no problems yet. That said, my old Denon 2802 never had a problem so I'm cautiously optimistic this won't either. I have electrostatics running at 6ohm so I'm putting a bit of a load out there. I hope I won't be sorry for not waiting for the 2309.
- running Audyssey yielded some odd results. So I ran it again and it came up with more odd, but different results. The second time I ran the six locations in a different order. Does anyone know if that makes a difference?
Both times it pumped up the output on virtually all of my speakers, except the Sub and a back speaker that runs at 8ohms and is close to the main listening position (so, much louder than it should be before adjustments). While the Audyssey on the Onkyo knocked the back speaker way down and kept the other speakers at about 0db, the Denon pumped the other speakers up and only turned down the back speaker slightly.
I also found that the distance measurements the first time I ran Audyssey were pretty much right on; while the second time they were off on one side of the room by about 10%. So, I fixed those and then used a sound meter to makes some additional adjustments. The biggest adjustment was turning down the bass, which was running about 8db hot; changing both what Audyssey did and the default LFE uplift from +15db to +10db.
All that said, at reference (0) it seems way louder than it should. I had to measure the test tones at around 85db, while I measured the Onkyo tones at 75db. I'm guessing this is because Audyssey pumped up my volumes. Anyone know if the test tones run at a constant volume or are relative to the underlying EQ?
Not sure if this detail is helpful but I did find it interesting. I'll probably run Audyssey again this weekend, just for grins.