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I'm guessing this is another case of the OP not really understanding which cable is the "goes inta" and which is the "goes outta".

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You actually cannot have two sources labeled with the same HDMI input as the 2nd time you do it, that entry overrides the 1st setting. Check your settings again to be sure.

Do you have the cable HDMI hook to the TV and then the TV HDMI hooked to the Reciever out? I have Cable HDMI hooked to the 3rd hdmi slot and tv to the out slot, but on the Denon assign menu I have both Cable and TV assigned to HDMI-3. It works, but could that cause problems? My DVD is hooked into the first HDMI slot and assigned to HDMI-1.
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Do you have the cable HDMI hook to the TV and then the TV HDMI hooked to the Reciever out? I have Cable HDMI hooked to the 3rd hdmi slot and tv to the out slot, but on the Denon assign menu I have both Cable and TV assigned to HDMI-3. It works, but could that cause problems? My DVD is hooked into the first HDMI slot and assigned to HDMI-1.

I think you are trying to said:
Cable --> Denon HDMI input 3 --> then output to Tv
DVD ---> Denon HDMI input 1 ---> then output to Tv
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I think you are trying to said:
Cable --> Denon HDMI input 3 --> then output to Tv
DVD ---> Denon HDMI input 1 ---> then output to Tv

Yeah that is how I have it set up cable wise, but Denon menu wise I have both tv and cable set to HDMI-3 assign. I guess I only need to have cable assigned to HDMI-3 and it will be fine.
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JD was right!

I'm guessing this is another case of the OP not really understanding which cable is the "goes inta" and which is the "goes outta".

you don't need to assign the OUT! It's the output, and that's all it is!

The "TV/CBL" input on your receiver is just another "name" you can use for another INPUT source. Your TV is not an INPUT!! It's the OUTPUT where all the video goes to so you can see it

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Just an FYI, 6ave is doing a "Name Your Price" program. They accepted my offer of 400 for the 1909. Not bad for a non-refurb item.

You got $400 accepted? They came back to me with $450 on my bid of $350. I was hoping for $400.
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Hi all, I'm a newbie but have been reading the threads for months now. I am trying to decide between the 1909 and 1910.

J&R is offering me the 1910 for $470 shipped. Is that a good deal or should I wait for the price to come down? I would not mind getting the 1909, but every place I check, I can't get the 1909 lower than $450.
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Well I just finished hooking up everything...so far I'm very impressed by the sound. Now on to the tweaking...

Thanks for all the great hints and tips.....
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Hi all, I'm a newbie but have been reading the threads for months now. I am trying to decide between the 1909 and 1910.
J&R is offering me the 1910 for $470 shipped. Is that a good deal or should I wait for the price to come down? I would not mind getting the 1909, but every place I check, I can't get the 1909 lower than $450.

Well dude, welcome, but "joint the club" is not part of the initiation. The manual is hard enough to read as it is.

Both seem like pretty good deals, depending on your preferences. Tough choices that noone but you can make.

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Hi all, I'm a newbie but have been reading the threads for months now. I am trying to decide between the 1909 and 1910.

J&R is offering me the 1910 for $470 shipped. Is that a good deal or should I wait for the price to come down? I would not mind getting the 1909, but every place I check, I can't get the 1909 lower than $450.

if the prices are equal, get the newer model. There isn't much reason to think it will be WORSE than the 1909. The only thing you lose going to the new model is one component video input (2 instead of 3) and S-video inputs. But you gain a 4th HDMI input and better video processing, plus some minor functionality changes.

The new models is slightly ligher (1.8lbs) but nobody actually knows if that means there is any inherent sound quality change. The only real compelling reason to go with the older model (assuming equal price) is if you specifically need the extra "legacy" inputs (for example if you have three devices which use component video).

Refer to this post for a full rundown on the differences:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post16533557

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Hi all, I'm a newbie but have been reading the threads for months now. I am trying to decide between the 1909 and 1910.

J&R is offering me the 1910 for $470 shipped. Is that a good deal or should I wait for the price to come down? I would not mind getting the 1909, but every place I check, I can't get the 1909 lower than $450.

Did you have to call J&R up to get this price? Can you tell me which salesperson you spoke to?

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You got $400 accepted? They came back to me with $450 on my bid of $350. I was hoping for $400.

Yep. Offered $400, they accepted. I had to pay a ridiculous shipping fee to AK, but still cheaper than anywhere else, plus I'll have it by the weekend!

Best of luck.

P.S. They completely rejected my offer for $400 for a Canon G10(digital camera)...go figure.
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Yep. Offered $400, they accepted. I had to pay a ridiculous shipping fee to AK, but still cheaper than anywhere else, plus I'll have it by the weekend!

Keep in mind folks, that unless expedited shipping is required, 6Ave doesn't normally charge for shipping. The current $486 price using AFLAUD25 is good for anywhere in the continental US. Don't get caught like some eBayers that end up not taking shipping into account when they bid and end up paying more than what they could have elsewhere (when shipping is included) satisfied they got a great price on the item itself.

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Many thanks to all of you, I've learned allot on this thread. Just wanted to share that one of the very few places listing the AVR-1610 is Electronics Expo. They're discounting it a whopping $1, but with free shipping and 20% off via code 'RECEIVERSALE', the net cost is $302.

This is going to go great with the Panny P50-G10 on the way from Vanns.

All this because my POS RCA rear projection can't display the 720p output from the $99 Roku box I bought last week.

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Many thanks to all of you, I've learned allot on this thread. Just wanted to share that one of the very few places listing the AVR-1610 is Electronics Expo. They're discounting it a whopping $1, but with free shipping and 20% off via code 'RECEIVERSALE', the net cost is $302.

Works perfect for the 1910. Got it for only $440 shipped. Finally, my Denon is on the way.
Thanks man.
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Did you have to call J&R up to get this price? Can you tell me which salesperson you spoke to?

I had to speak to a salesperson. PM me and I will give you the details
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I too just ordered a 1910 for less than I paid for the 1909

Thanks for the link & coupon code.
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if the prices are equal, get the newer model. There isn't much reason to think it will be WORSE than the 1909. The only thing you lose going to the new model is one component video input (2 instead of 3) and S-video inputs. But you gain a 4th HDMI input and better video processing, plus some minor functionality changes.

The new models is slightly ligher (1.8lbs) but nobody actually knows if that means there is any inherent sound quality change. The only real compelling reason to go with the older model (assuming equal price) is if you specifically need the extra "legacy" inputs (for example if you have three devices which use component video).

Thanks Batpig, I really should thank all the folks that share their knowledge in this thread. I was a bit hesitant about getting a Denon receiver as a friend of mine had it and was so frustrated during the set up process that he returned it to the store. But after following this thread over the past months, I am excited about getting the receiver.

Well..that and if I get confused I can always post my problems here.
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Yep. Offered $400, they accepted. I had to pay a ridiculous shipping fee to AK, but still cheaper than anywhere else, plus I'll have it by the weekend!

Best of luck.

The flat declined my offer, not even a counter-offer. They did offer the Pioneer VSX-1019AHK for $402. Thinking about jumping on that one.
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Thanks to chriscar, I just pulled the trigger on the 1910 from Electronics-Expo.

I got free shipping and 20% off via code "RECEIVERSALE" combined that with the Fatwallet 3% cashback and thst brought the grand total to $426.

I can't wait to get all the below setup.

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if the prices are equal, get the newer model. There isn't much reason to think it will be WORSE than the 1909.

With a Denon advertised MSRP $100 less than the older model, don't you think something has to give?

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The Denon AVR-1910 seems to be the best of the new Onkyo/Yam/Denon receivers in the <500 range and from my research so far and keeping my budget in mind, I think I'll jump in at the first good sale below MSRP.

That said, would this have enough juice with 90w per channel to drive the 4 6.5in drivers in the power hungry Polk Monitor 70s? Recommended amp power for these speakers is 20-275w per channel
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For those who are buying the 1910 from Electronics Expo, are you calling the number to preorder it, or is it already out of stock? The product page says its available only for preorder...

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For those who are buying the 1910 from Electronics Expo, are you calling the number to preorder it, or is it already out of stock? The product page says its available only for preorder...

Well then I'm glad I made the decision to buy it right away.
Sorry man, looks like they must have run out. Wouldn't hurt to call them though.
Good luck.
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The Denon AVR-1910 seems to be the best of the new Onkyo/Yam/Denon receivers in the <500 range and from my research so far and keeping my budget in mind, I think I'll jump in at the first good sale below MSRP. That said, would this have enough juice with 90w per channel to drive the 4 6.5in drivers in the power hungry Polk Monitor 70s? Recommended amp power for these speakers is 20-275w per channel

Those are 8 Ohm/ 90dB-not really "power-hungry" AFAIK, but how many you got? What's the rest of the speakers? Keep in mind the 19 series is exc for a smaller HT, not critical listening or rockin' the house. So if this is bigger room and you like to crank it loud, you might want more juice. That's a tough bill to fill for $500. So you might appreciate the considerable capability of the 2809 which unquestionably would maximize SQ/performance with those Polks. It's a great deal at less than $800 now, but it's '09 so does not have the new '10 features like GUI overlay and HDMI video processing, if that matters to you.

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Thanks to chriscar, I just pulled the trigger on the 1910 from Electronics-Expo.

I got free shipping and 20% off via code "RECEIVERSALE" combined that with the Fatwallet 3% cashback and thst brought the grand total to $426.

Ah, a Thrifty Bastard just like me. I went through Fatwallet as well for the extra 3%.

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For those who are buying the 1910 from Electronics Expo, are you calling the number to preorder it, or is it already out of stock? The product page says its available only for preorder...

I called them and talked to a sales associate named John.
He said they are honoring the 20% off on preorders.
Total for me came to $439.20. (no tax, no shipping)
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I called them and talked to a sales associate named John.
He said they are honoring the 20% off on preorders.
Total for me came to $439.20. (no tax, no shipping)

Did you happen to ask if they have any 1909 available and how much? Since they offer the 1910 for 20% off.
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Did you happen to ask if they have any 1909 available and how much? Since they offer the 1910 for 20% off.

I did not, but I got the impression you could get 20% off any of their Denon receivers.
He mentioned that I should look at the 4310 and what a great deal it is with this discount.
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For those who are buying the 1910 from Electronics Expo, are you calling the number to preorder it, or is it already out of stock? The product page says its available only for preorder...

I just called and pre-ordered for $439.20 with free shipping using the RECIEVERSALE coupon through Rich at Electronics Expo. They have 79 units on order and their Denon training is tomorrow so they should know more details then as far as arrival date by then.

I guess it was the perfect time for my Nakamichi AV8 reciever to die. Still makes me sad though. Time to move it into the family room, only the center channel doesn't work.
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