Im starting to sound like a ranter.. but i redone the audyssey calibration 3x.
First result using 6 positions sounded very awfull. For a test i set xover to 40 hz before starting this one. Obviously it couldn't manage the bass from my mains at all, it killed any bass - midbass in order to disable a few room peaks. The correction seemed very off and overdone..
Second measurement using 80 hz xover and exactly the same measurement positions, was semi awfull. This time it managed to straighten some of the bass area, but ****ed up my mids totally. On top of that it had the volumes totally wrong. (3 db difference between L and R, even though they are only 20 cm different in distance to listening spot.)
Third measurement using 80xover and 3 positions seems best.
This time it at least got the volumes right, and the sub was eq'ed ok.
However its still impossible listening any music with it, sounds like i downgraded my speakers to ones from the supermarket.
Seriously, how can people like this fake dry emotionless surround sound??
To me it sounds like it exaggerates all imaging, making "mono" tones (such as voices) even more mono, and stereo tones even more stereo. In the process killing all the subtleties in the music
Since it matched the phase directly on the listening spot, you even get a headache from it, since it feels like the sound is in your head instead of on a stage.
I tried some chesky demo disks, for imaging, depth, and even height (!).
Using the old analogue receivers you could clearly hear all detail and acoustics and even the height test seemed to work.
With this denon and audyssey .. i dont get any feel of the room, the acoustics or the ambience.. Without audyssey its a lot better, but the bass/midbass is too much then. (same problem i had with old amps.. reason i bought this thing in the first place, to tame the 50-60 hz range..)
Maybe i can set xover to 100 hz, and only apply audyssey on the sub. But i got a crappy BK xls200 sub, so that wont sound that great either im guessing, plus it will be mono (yes you CAN hear imaging in 60-100 hz.., at least i do)
Got the thing hooked up using optical cables, and playing flac files.
Will probably try to connect some analogue equipment and see if that helps any.. But i seriously doubt it, plus the fact that i have zero tone control when using analogue. (normally i dont need any, but with this receiver i think i might)..