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Interesting thing to note with the 2809. When the source is selected as Tuner the FM channel gets displayed on the TV and also will display the volume. This may be common knowledge but since this is my first Denon receiver I thought it was cool and wanted to share it with those that may not be aware.

Neat!

I thought it really cool when changing television broadcast channels, one in stereo and other 5.1, that the AVR-2809 automatically switched between DTS Neo 6 Surround Cinema to Dolby Digital Cinema which I had choosen for each channel audio type.

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Neat!

I thought it really cool when changing television broadcast channels, one in stereo and other 5.1, that the AVR-2809 automatically switched between DTS Neo 6 Surround Cinema to Dolby Digital Cinema which I had choosen for each channel audio type.

*Note original post has been expanded on.

That's how my 354 operates as well, remembers each source's every individual settings - I'll sooo miss Logic 7...
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That's how my 354 operates as well, remembers each source's every individual settings - I'll sooo miss Logic 7...

Yep blame HK for keeping Logic 7 completely proprietary. IMHO I think DTS Neo:6 does a excellent job when watching older stereo source broadcasts.

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Yep blame HK for keeping Logic 7 completely proprietary. IMHO I think DTS Neo:6 does a excellent job when watching older stereo source broadcasts.

I guess they thought exclusivity will serve them well... Well even if it did in the past the truth is that their QA or rather complete lack thereof - completely killed their current product line, L7 included or not.
I reached the tipping point, I discourage anyone to invest into any new HK until they fix these horrible bugs.
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Still no hit for #8853957...
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Still no hit for #8853957...

You have to talk to a local BB store rep and have them look up the sku # against inventory. The online site is hopeless. Last ETA I heard was Sept 4, but they could get them earlier, just like the 1909's suddenly showed up.

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"That's how my 354 operates as well, remembers each source's every individual settings - I'll sooo miss Logic 7..."

Try Neural THX7.1 if you have it. I went from HK 635 to Onkyo 705 and missed L7, or maybe just HK's sound.

Onkyo was much brighter, and not in a good way. Switching from DPLIIX to Neural THX7.1 mellowed it out considerably.

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My Magnolia Best Buy hasn't received the 2x09 models yet, only up to the 1909. The SKU isn't even in the RSS (inventory) system, so I keep looking it up by model number. I check this daily. I'll update here ASAP when I find out. I haven't been able to snag the Denon rep whenever he comes in, in fact, I'm starting to think he's a mythical creature.

That said, I ordered the 2809 through the Denon employee accommodations program (half price FTW!) and it should arrive on the 26th! I'm excited to get rid of my Pioneer VSX-D509S and replace it with a Denon.

I have a question about the Denon upscaling feature. My current HDTV is very old, in fact, it predates DVI and only has component inputs. It's next on the to-upgrade list. I'm going to be running all of my YCbCr through the receiver, and am wondering if it will still upscale.
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Anyone test it with a PS3 yet? Anything screwy?
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I'm using it with the PS3 and works great. Streaming music sounds great, and Blu ray movies sound awesome and appears to stream PCM well. The surround sounds so much better then my 3 year old Onkyo sounded. Only problem I've had so far is with my Samsung DLP HLA750 and the crappy anynet+ thing, just wouldn't work and would lose sound when I turned off the TV but wanted to continue listening to sound from my PS3 or from my cable box. Once I figured out how to turn that off it works great. Now just waiting for Harmony One config to come out, I'm using older 2307? settings with some adjustments and can most things i want to do. Well back to the movies...before back to work in AM.
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I'm using it with the PS3 and works great. Streaming music sounds great, and Blu ray movies sound awesome and appears to stream PCM well. The surround sounds so much better then my 3 year old Onkyo sounded. Only problem I've had so far is with my Samsung DLP HLA750 and the crappy anynet+ thing, just wouldn't work and would lose sound when I turned off the TV but wanted to continue listening to sound from my PS3 or from my cable box. Once I figured out how to turn that off it works great. Now just waiting for Harmony One config to come out, I'm using older 2307? settings with some adjustments and can most things i want to do. Well back to the movies...before back to work in AM.
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Interesting that disabling anytime+ on your display resolved the absence of audio when display was turned off as I have a Samsung DLP but don't use anytime+.

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You have to talk to a local BB store rep and have them look up the sku # against inventory. The online site is hopeless. Last ETA I heard was Sept 4, but they could get them earlier, just like the 1909's suddenly showed up.

Original ETA was Sept for the 1909 too?

BTW can you do us a favor and test BTB/WTW? It'd be great to put this issue to rest...
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Original ETA was Sept for the 1909 too?

BTW can you do us a favor and test BTB/WTW? It'd be great to put this issue to rest...

BB still doesn't list 1909 online still, even though first 1909 was bought from BB 7/15.

BB has dragged getting 2309 and 2809 for a long time, but should get them in same time.

Next Opportunity.

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hi
i bought recently harman kardon avr-254, it has a problem that it losses the video/audio signals + flickering while watching bd disc. i conntacted the cusromer service and they addmited they know about that problem and working on an update.
im thinking on changing it to : DENON 988 OR 989 - my q is: are they good and proven not to have the above problem? and is it worth it to take the 989 over the older one 988?
thanks alot
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BTW can you do us a favor and test BTB/WTW? It'd be great to put this issue to rest...

This issue is only a problem with you (you have asked it so many times)? What do you use that BTB/WTW matters? Its an issue that a very small percentage of people will ever care about and fewer will even notice it.

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This issue is only a problem with you (you have asked it so many times)? What do you use that BTB/WTW matters? Its an issue that a very small percentage of people will ever care about and fewer will even notice it.

Whatever makes you happy, pal... I'm back at work and I have little tolerance and even less time for your confused rants about your usual (mis-understood, IMO) subjects - BTB/WTW clipping, watts vs dB vs loudness vs power etc - thus I won't get into any arguments over this, sorry.
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BB still doesn't list 1909 online still, even though first 1909 was bought from BB 7/15.

BB has dragged getting 2309 and 2809 for a long time, but should get them in same time.

Sounds good, thanks for the update.

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I was in Futureshop on the weekend and noticed they received some 2309's in which aren't listed on their web site yet. I didn't get a chance to talk to a salesperson on a 2809 release date though.

It looks like Denon Canada had updated their web site on the weekend because the new AVR models are finally listed. I'd imagine the 2809 will be released quite soon.

Anyone know if the Canadian release date will match the American one?
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They also increased all the MSRPs on the Canadian site!
Hah, so turns out I got my unit below MSRP after all...
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I'm using it with the PS3 and works great. Streaming music sounds great, and Blu ray movies sound awesome and appears to stream PCM well. The surround sounds so much better then my 3 year old Onkyo sounded. Only problem I've had so far is with my Samsung DLP HLA750 and the crappy anynet+ thing, just wouldn't work and would lose sound when I turned off the TV but wanted to continue listening to sound from my PS3 or from my cable box. Once I figured out how to turn that off it works great. Now just waiting for Harmony One config to come out, I'm using older 2307? settings with some adjustments and can most things i want to do. Well back to the movies...before back to work in AM.
Cheers.

Any testing with games or just movies and music?
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Whatever makes you happy, pal... I'm back at work and I have little tolerance and even less time for your confused rants about your usual (mis-understood, IMO) subjects - BTB/WTW clipping, watts vs dB vs loudness vs power etc - thus I won't get into any arguments over this, sorry.


watts vs dB, never confused always accurate.

power vs loudness??? WTF?

BTB/WTW clipping is for the who again? You can not tell the difference when playing a BluRay movie...its a fact!!

Anytime you want to match what we own, system builds, EQed systems, full house systems and so on give me a call. I doubt you remotely have a clue to what is true except what you think is true in your little world.

stop whinning about your silly HK problems, go back to your little world and stop bother people that actually spend money and test things!!

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stop whinning about your silly HK problems, go back to your little world and stop bother people that actually spend money and test things!!

I'm so glad you two like Denon's now!!!!

Now Penngray has his 2809 coming Tuesday (est), so T2K just go out and trade that troublesome HK for the Denon of your choice as soon as they are in stock and be happy!

(BTW There is no instances of a recent Denon AVR failing BTB/WTW online, 1909 has already been verfied)

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I was in Futureshop on the weekend and noticed they received some 2309's in which aren't listed on their web site yet. I didn't get a chance to talk to a salesperson on a 2809 release date though.

It looks like Denon Canada had updated their web site on the weekend because the new AVR models are finally listed. I'd imagine the 2809 will be released quite soon.

Anyone know if the Canadian release date will match the American one?

Future Shop carrying the 2xxx line, or was it the 889 (2309)? As far as I know, the big box stores get the 3 digit models.

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watts vs dB, never confused always accurate.

power vs loudness??? WTF?

BTB/WTW clipping is for the who again? You can not tell the difference when playing a BluRay movie...its a fact!!

Yeah, 'fact', huh? Just as much as your other "facts" e.g. there's no difference between Faroudja scaler chips, no audible difference between AVRs etc.
Ignorance is blissed, I guess.

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Anytime you want to match what we own, system builds, EQed systems, full house systems and so on give me a call. I doubt you remotely have a clue to what is true except what you think is true in your little world.

Why do you use words which are largely unknown to you? It only gets you in trouble when occasionally some smarter person bothers to correct one of your many clueless posts (see your latest re-education about EQ and such... )

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stop whinning about your silly HK problems, go back to your little world and stop bother people that actually spend money and test things!!

Please, do us a favor and stop posting especially these incoherent, idiotic adhom attacks against me or others - this constant flow of mostly ignorant, intolerant-loudmouthed blustering of yours is pretty boring.
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I'm so glad you two like Denon's now!!!!

Now Penngray has his 2809 coming Tuesday (est), so T2K just go out and trade that troublesome HK for the Denon of your choice as soon as they are in stock and be happy!

Hey, I am quite happy, we finally brought our little princess home. It's just frustrating to see HK doesn't really give a flying frog about us -> doesn
't even have an ETA for a fix...

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(BTW There is no instances of a recent Denon AVR failing BTB/WTW online, 1909 has already been verfied)

Can I get a linky here?
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Can I get a linky here?

Here is confirmation on the 1909 thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post14477248
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Hello all...I am new to all of this so am looking for just some basic hook up help. I have a Denon 2809 receiver, Sharp Aquos LCD, HD satellite receiver and a PS3. These are all new and ready to hook up. I understand the use of HDMI cables...will need 2 but what about optical cables? If someone could inform me how to exactly hook up these 4 components I woul be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance
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I was in Futureshop on the weekend and noticed they received some 2309's in which aren't listed on their web site yet. I didn't get a chance to talk to a salesperson on a 2809 release date though.

It looks like Denon Canada had updated their web site on the weekend because the new AVR models are finally listed. I'd imagine the 2809 will be released quite soon.

Anyone know if the Canadian release date will match the American one?

The 2809 is released in Canada. I just bought mine for $1160 CAN tax incl. Great store in Richmond Hill
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Future Shop carrying the 2xxx line, or was it the 889 (2309)? As far as I know, the big box stores get the 3 digit models.

Sorry, you are right. It was the 889 I saw. Forgot that the big box stores carry those models.

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The 2809 is released in Canada. I just bought mine for $1160 CAN tax incl. Great store in Richmond Hill

What store? Do they sell online?
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Sorry, you are right. It was the 889 I saw. Forgot that the big box stores carry those models.



What store? Do they sell online?

Store is called HDTV and is located in Times Square Mall on Hwy 7. Ask for Gary.
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