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Started 10.1.08
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A Few Items New or Prospective Owners may want to Know

REVIEWS Downloads:

General information:
Universal Remotes & RS232 codes:
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Code:
-IR and Hex codes
-Pronto (ccf format) files and "Universal" (mxf) files here
-RS232C Protocols for Custom installationsSC-07  and SC-05
-Crestron , Crestron's Integrated Partner Module Click Here
-Harmony codes: available as of 10/30/08 (ccotenj)
-Harmony Remote Tips
-Service Codes

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Networking and Streaming:
-Apple and OS/X networking and Music Streaming ccotenj
-Internet radio Impression1 Impression2
-Network and media server connections (a_ok2me)
Tips:
-To access HMG MENUS with the remote, be sure to switch from "receiver" to "source"
-Cooling/Ventilation
-SC-LX81 (SC-07) autopsy and here
-Removing stickers without Scratching? Method1 Method2 Method3
-Dimmer setting location: bottom portion of the remote, under the sliding door (number 3 button)
- PURE Direct Observations by MacFan
Subwoofers/Speakers
-Quickstart Speaker setup - MacFan
-Bossobass guide to subwoofers
-General Subwoofer settings (Macfan424) and here
-How do I hook up my Definitive Mythos to the SC/05/07/09? MacFan424
- Dual Subs Graphicguy and MacFan424
LFE/MCACC
-Proper Microphone position for calibration Ray
-LFE and crossover settings MacFan and secrets by Colin Miller & Brian Florian Thanks MacFan
-Why are my MCACC settings 6db lower from my last Pioneer? ss9001
-X-Curve and room sample by eldithomaso
-Connecting your PC to MCACC
-MCACC calibration MacFan
-MCACC and background noise by ss9001
General Connections:
-How to set Video HDMI with Digital (Optical/Coax) Audio Click here
-PS3 connection to Your new SC-05/07 AUDIO/VIDEO
- working setup example of Zone 2 and Zone 3 by mhdiab
-Zone 2 and 3 configuration example by Geoff and alerion
-Adding the ability to watch TV from one source and Audio from another? method1 (SC-05/07) method2 (SC-07)
-HMG and an external HD JS1000
Utilities
-DIY 12VDC Trigger for switching by mrgribbles and circuit diagrams by decoupe
-Member recommended CD to FLAC converters EAC winamp dBpower
-Rippng DTS with Windows -Info_Dan
- How much Power do you actually use? SPL Calculator Thanks MacFan
- Resetting your AVR/Service Mode Codes
- HMG Update
Potential problems:
-Problems with DD+ with the Toshiba XA2 and Samsung HD-DVD. Workarounds from FilmMixer and ss9001
-Rel Subwoofers and SC-05/07/09 Precautions
-Flashing MCACC LED and LED Issues
-Fios Cable Box shows "green screen of death" -- Try HDMI Input 3

added January-March 2010
MCACC background noise ss9001
SPL Calculator
SC-07 with Oppo 83 review Shane55 member's review (page 3)
working setup example of Zone 2 and Zone 3
FW HMG updates from users
Raymond G review

My first impression - original first post

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Thanks for starting the thread. Please post some of your impressions regarding music and movies as soon as you get a chance. I still have no firm info when the power buys will ship, but I am being told soon, so hopefully I can post my impressions in a couple of weeks. Congrats!!!
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So are you saying the the Monster HDMI is performing better than you other HDMI cables? I am waiting for my local shop to get the 07 in stock and want to make sure I get the best performance. I would love to see some more Pics if it is not too much trouble.
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So are you saying the the Monster HDMI is performing better than you other HDMI cables?

I'm not sure how you got that from his post.

He just didn't want to get made fun of for using overpriced Monster cables.
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Ok, no one else has started one, so here goes...
I know others have them, so hopefully they will post too.

One of these will soon be mine. I haven't quite decided between the SC-05 or the SC-07.

Does the receiver output the exact same thing to both displays? (same resolution and timings?)
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I would like to know if the x-over setting are adjustable for each channel. For example, can you crossover the center at 80hz and the mains at 50hz?
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I would like to know if the x-over setting are adjustable for each channel. For example, can you crossover the center at 80hz and the mains at 50hz?

Per the manual, there is only one crossover setting for the system.
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I'm not sure how you got that from his post.

He just didn't want to get made fun of for using overpriced Monster cables.

I just thought that since he said WOW about it that he may have noticed better performance.
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This is kind of disappointing. I may be wrong, but havn't Denon and Onkyo had this on their last 2 generations of receivers? I have been considering the 07 as an upgrade over my VSX 94, but it is seeming less and less like an upgrade for the money. The ICE amps and extra HDMI out are appealing, but I'm not sure if they warrant the cost.

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Per the manual, there is only one crossover setting for the system.

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I just thought that since he said WOW about it that he may have noticed better performance.

Oh... I'm pretty sure he was referring to the receiver as a monster, not the cables in that sentence.
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This is kind of disappointing. I may be wrong, but haven't Denon and Onkyo had this on their last 2 generations of receivers? I have been considering the 07 as an upgrade over my VSX 94, but it is seeming less and less like an upgrade for the money. The ICE amps and extra HDMI out are appealing, but I'm not sure if they warrant the cost.

I had it on my previous Sony DA5ES, and I wasn't too thrilled when I lost it with my 84TXSi, but now 2 years later, I can't say I've missed not having it. I don't see it as a big deal anymore.
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I had it on my previous Sony DA5ES, and I wasn't too thrilled when I lost it with my 84TXSi, but now 2 years later, I can't say I've missed not having it. I don't see it as a big deal anymore.


What speakers do you run Stereodude?
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What speakers do you run Stereodude?

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My first impression (Click SHOW button)
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Ok, no one else has started one, so here goes...
I know others have them, so hopefully they will post too.

Got my SC-07 August 12. It's absolutely a great looking machine!
I originally was waiting for the SC-05, but after seeing the SC-07 on
display, I could not resist.. Besides, the SC-05 wasn't due in till
the end of the month.



The MCACC when off without a hitch. As I've never used an autocalibrater
before, I was facinated with the process. The GUI is nice.
pic1

pic2

Installed without a problem (well, that's not true, I spent 30 minutes trying
to find out why the DVD wasn't working, to find out later I had plugged it in
wrong... sigh). It has 4 HDMI inputs and 2 HDMI outputs.
I am using HDMI control on it with a Kuro Pro-110FD and a BDP-51FD.
Sound and AV Functions display on screen when connected this way.
Devices hooked up:
Plasma TV (PRO-110FD) HDMI
Blu-ray Player (BDP-51FD) HDMI
DVD Player (DV-400) HDMI
2nd DVD Player (Panasonic XP50) COMPONENT
DVD-R (DVR-7000) S-VIDEO,coaxial in/Component out
Sat dish (HR-21) HDMI and Component
Playstation2 Component

I'm using Monster (no flames please.. I was in a hurry) and MonoPrice Cat2
HDMI cables
Right now all I can say is WOW, I really like this monster. It kinda
dominates everything on the rack, but that's ok... it's pleasing to the eyes
I will post more pictures if anyone wants.


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So are you saying the the Monster HDMI is performing better than you other HDMI cables? I am waiting for my local shop to get the 07 in stock and want to make sure I get the best performance. I would love to see some more Pics if it is not too much trouble.

Not at all. I am using both. I had the monster cables from my DVD player and HR-21. They are still in use, but plugged into the SC-07
I'm using Monoprice cables for the Blu-Ray and the connection to the plasma screen. No issues with the monoprice cables at all.
I just wanted to post what I'm using because I know people will ask.
Will try to get some pics tonight.

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I would like to know if the x-over setting are adjustable for each channel. For example, can you crossover the center at 80hz and the mains at 50hz?

Pretty sure Stereodude is correct. Just haven't tried everything yet..

Got it hooked up to my network (painless). Internet radio is pretty cool, lots of choices.
Audio with the Nueral THX is a lot better quality but you only have about 5-6 choices.
Using the remote was a bit frustrating until I realized you had to set the switch to "source" to operate it with the HMG.

Going to try to download the software for Advanced MCACC application from Pioneer if I get a chance. The only one I can find is for the SC-09 and VSX-03/01TXH here

Lot's of options and still on a learning curve with this. Hopefully some of the other owners will post soon.

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This is kind of disappointing. I may be wrong, but havn't Denon and Onkyo had this on their last 2 generations of receivers? I have been considering the 07 as an upgrade over my VSX 94, but it is seeming less and less like an upgrade for the money. The ICE amps and extra HDMI out are appealing, but I'm not sure if they warrant the cost.

Keep the 94 and pick up an XPA-5 from Emotiva. www.emotiva.com
I have the 92 and will picking up the XPA-5 mid-September.
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Pretty sure Stereodude is correct. Just haven't tried everything yet..

He is absolutely 100% correct. Pioneer has used a global x-over on every version of MCACC since they first introduced it. I've owned 3 Elite flagships, the 49txi, 59txi & now the SC-09 - all had/have only 1 x-over. The 70, 80, & 90 series all had only 1 x-over.

Hope that helps everyone.

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BTW - congratulations to all new SC-05 & SC-07 owners Glad to see some others are joining the Pioneer ice club!

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Keep the 94 and pick up an XPA-5 from Emotiva. www.emotiva.com
I have the 92 and will picking up the XPA-5 mid-September.


Thanks for the post crOwcaine, that is quite tempting. I am going to have to consider that!
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great, quick question for ya... How does the HR-21 HDMI work thru the sc-07? is it slow/fast? Have you tried hooking it up thru component and comparing? any advantages/disadvantages? Just looking for input running it thru the 07, ive read that component is much faster than HDMI for this box, but what about thru this receiver?

thanks again, cant wait to get mine. About 3 more weeks and my room addition will be done, and I will be a new 07 owner.

look forward to more info in this thread.
thanks, Mike
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If Pioneer doesn't update the menus for us 94 owners then I will update my receiver to one of these. I just purchased it like 1.5 months ago and I didn't know anything about these coming out. I'm a little disappointed that I bought the 94 now!
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Pretty sure Stereodude is correct. Just haven't tried everything yet..

Got it hooked up to my network (painless). Internet radio is pretty cool, lots of choices.
Audio with the Nueral THX is a lot better quality but you only have about 5-6 choices.
Using the remote was a bit frustrating until I realized you had to set the switch to "source" to operate it with the HMG.

Going to try to download the software for Advanced MCACC application from Pioneer if I get a chance. The only one I can find is for the SC-09 and VSX-03/01TXH here

Lot's of options and still on a learning curve with this. Hopefully some of the other owners will post soon.

Did Internet radio require any subscription service etc.? How do you navigate around the web? Can you connect a keyboard to the SC-07 or would that be a waste of money? I am also thinking of hooking up XM to my SC-07 (when I get it, impatiently waiting!). Thanks
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great, quick question for ya... How does the HR-21 HDMI work thru the sc-07? is it slow/fast? Have you tried hooking it up thru component and comparing? any advantages/disadvantages? Just looking for input running it thru the 07, ive read that component is much faster than HDMI for this box, but what about thru this receiver?

thanks again, cant wait to get mine. About 3 more weeks and my room addition will be done, and I will be a new 07 owner.

look forward to more info in this thread.
thanks, Mike

It runs great through the HDMI. Since it outputs simutaneously with component out (the hr-21), I have component running into video 1 so I can switch it back and forth. Menu speed is the same whether it's hooked directly to the SC-07 or directly to the tv.. typically sometimes fast and sometimes slow (like it's buffering). I know others have reported using component over HDMI on the HR-21 is faster, I have have not seen this to be the case, however, I don't really seem to have the same lag I've read about. Anyway to answer your question, component and HDMI both work quite well with SC-07.
Here's a shot last night running a recording from the HR21 through the SC-07 to the Plasma

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BTW - congratulations to all new SC-05 & SC-07 owners Glad to see some others are joining the Pioneer ice club!

ss9001

Thank you very much ss9001.
Your posts and information on the SC-09 threads is one of the main reasons I waited for the SC-05/07.. I was all set to get a 92/94. Thank you! No regrets.

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Here are some pictures last night to show OSD overlays on the SC-07..

Switched from component to HDMI1

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It runs great through the HDMI. Since it outputs simutaneously with component out (the hr-21), I have component running into video 1 so I can switch it back and forth. Menu speed is the same whether it's hooked directly to the SC-07 or directly to the tv.. typically sometimes fast and sometimes slow (like it's buffering). I know others have reported using component over HDMI on the HR-21 is faster, I have have not seen this to be the case, however, I don't really seem to have the same lag I've read about. Anyway to answer your question, component and HDMI both work quite well with SC-07.
Here's a shot last night running a recording from the HR21 through the SC-07 to the Plasma

Thanks, thats great to hear. Also, I just noticed you're in NB, cool Im in OC too(Yorba Linda) and I work down your way(broadcom). Maybe if I have setup problems when I get mine, I can swing by and buy you a beer to check out your setup!

-Mike
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Congrats CHP_VR, I am jealous!

Very interested to hear any input you might have on both the anti jitter cd playback with your 51-07 combo. Also, any input you can give on the high speed(color) HDMI features of the 51 and the 110.
You have the combination of equiptment that can answer a lot of questions for us out here. I'm still torn between Denon-Onkyo-Pioneer. If the anti jitter thing has ANY merit, that would be a huge tilt for me towards the 05 or 07 as I have an BDP-05 on order.

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I would like to know if anyone is running the SC 07 with Klipsch speakers. Do the ice amps still have that warm Elite sound, or are they on the brighter side?
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Here are some pictures last night to show OSD overlays on the SC-07..

Switched from component to HDMI1

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You only get those because you have a Pioneer Plasma right? They're not actually in the HDMI video output from the receiver.
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