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Marantz began unveiling parts of its 2008 (SRx003) model line-up recently, with the announcement at IFA Berlin of the SR6003, featuring a new color on-screen GUI, Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD decoding on-board, and 3 HDMI 1.3a inputs and 2 outputs, at 100W x 7.

Marantz SR6003 (European model shown)



Additionally, North America got its first official look at the new line via the official Marantz site, which has been updated with the SR4003 and SR5003 models, albeit without the on-screen interface debuting in the SR6003 model. Both entry-level models have been upgraded to 3 HDMI 1.3a inputs with the SR5003 capable of bitstream audio decoding.

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is there actually any word on whether there will be a 7003 or 8003 receiver? If so, what are the differences from the x002 models?
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I was going to get a Marantz sr7002 sometime within the next two weeks because the 7002 was the cheapest model with Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD, but now that these new models are coming out I can get something that's a little more reasonable for my budget. I just got a new PSB Alpha set about a month and a half ago (B1s, C1, LR1s and 5i) and wanted a new receiver to go with them and always thought that the 7002 was a little bit of overkill for those speakers. The only question for me now is whether to go with the 6003 or the 5003. Any word on release dates, aside from Audioholics? (Mostly 6th Ave. since they seem to be the authorized dealer with the best deals.)
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scotus - I think the expectation is that any models higher than the SR6003 would be launched at CEDIA 2008 next week, in Denver. There is a considerable model gap between the $1,000 MSRP SR6003 and the $5,000 MSRP AV8003 + MM8003!

mbrennan61 - If you're OK with the old-style fascia, I'm sure the SR7002 will drop in price tremendously upon the launch of the new models - I think I saw SR7001s selling for $800 online when retailers were trying to liquidate them. So that's a consideration. As for available dates, unfortunately it might be around October - the SR7002 started becoming available around October of 2007, after being announced around September.
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I was thinking about that as a possible alternative. My only concerns would be that I would want to make sure to buy from an authorized dealer so as to get the warranty (and they might be a little harder to get good deals off of), and also I was a little concerned reading about the so-called "DTS Bomb" with the Marantzs. I read how you could get a loud pop while watching a movie with DTS-HDMA that could potentially damage your speakers and which I'm sure would be unpleasant in its own right. From what I recall, Marantz knew about this and had a firmware upgrade to fix it, but it wouldn't release it and you could only get the upgrade if you had this problem and sent in your receiver to get fixed. I would hope that since they already know about it any future receivers from Marantz, including the entire 003 line, would be alleviated of this problem.
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Anybody know what this "new GUI" is about? Is it similar to Denon's solution?
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and wanted a new receiver to go with them and always thought that the 7002 was a little bit of overkill for those speakers.

a little overkill??

Generally a good AV setup should have 70% or more of the money spent on speakers but you are not alone...lots of people have value speakers with expensive AVRs...its a funny thing to read about though

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is there actually any word on whether there will be a 7003 or 8003 receiver? If so, what are the differences from the x002 models?

I wonder the same thing?

Is there any information about models above 6003? And the big one, is it possible to use Adyssey applications (MultEQ) AND decode for exampel DTS-HD Master Audio at the same time? The X002 models did not muster that.

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Per a salesman at a Marantz dealer near me, there will not be a 7003 or 8003.
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The 6003 looks nice!
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Per a salesman at a Marantz dealer near me, there will not be a 7003 or 8003.

Talked to the people at Marantz at the CEDIA show. They plan on eventually updating the 7xxx and 8xxx receivers, just not in the next month or two like the 4003, 5003 (both available now) and the 6003 (available in a month or so).

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I'm pretty excited about the 6003 because of its 2 HDMI outputs. Great for people with TV and Projector. I keep hoping that Marantz will pick up Dynamic Volume.

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Will be watching this with great interest...
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Just looked at the pic's and noticed the VCR label on HDMI3 port ???????

and why would you need a TV HDMI input???? I know they are refering to a settop box

WTF!!!
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Just looked at the pic's and noticed the VCR label on HDMI3 port ???????

and why would you need a TV HDMI input???? I know they are refering to a settop box

WTF!!!

Denon does the same type of labeling on the 1909--DVD, VCR and HDP. On the Denon the inputs may be re-labeled in set-up.

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Some more info:

http://cedia.customretailer.net/comp...ntz_SR6003/39/


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The SR6003 AV Receiver features Dolby TrueHD, dts HD Master Audio, HDMI 1.3a, Audyssey Auto Calibration, USB Audio and a new GUI, all wrapped in a new chassis that is less than 16" deep. The tuner supports AM/FM/HD/XM/Sirius and the receiver is packed with custom friendly features (ie: RS232C).


http://m.cnetasia.com/product/specs.htm?p=43868494

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A/V receiver, 100 x 7 amplifier output, Built-in decoders include DTS, Dolby Digital, DTS NEO:6, Dolby Pro Logic IIx, Dolby Digital EX, DTS-ES, DTS 96/24, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD; FM tuner; Audyssey MultiEQ auto calibration; M-DAX digital audio expander; i-Chip video processor; 1080p upscaling; Deep Color-ready; onboard MP3/WMA playback., Output: HDMI 1.3a x 2; Input: HDMI 1.3a x 3, USB x 1., x x mm




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If you speak Czech then you may already know all about the SR6003, the new receiver from Marantz. This product is due to be announced officially at IFA in Berlin later in the month but has so far only appeared on a couple of Czech news sites.

What's so wonderful about the SR6003? Well, we'll tell you: It's Marantz's most cutting edge receiver in about, ooh, five years. And, it looks cool.

Upside:We got an eyeful of the specs and pics at the CEDIA show in Australia (despite having attempted to learn another language) and we think this receiver may be a winner for the company. Why? Well, 12 months ago we gave glowing praise to Onkyo for its foresight in including onboard Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD decoding. Well, the cat's out of that bag of hammers now--everyone's doing it.

Power output is high at 100W x 7, and the receiver also offers three HDMI V1.3a inputs and two outputs--meaning you could connect both a projector and a flat-panel TV. Ease of use also appears to be a factor with a simplified fascia, Aduyssey auto audio calibration, and an onscreen color graphical user interface.

The receiver also features a video processor that upscales standard-definition video to 1080p, while making the most of MP3 files with a USB input and M-DAX music enhancer.

Downside:The final retail price is yet to be decided, but rival Onkyo has stepped up the game with the release of its new receiver range at a low price and with a superior feature count. After a string of excellent learning remotes, the RC003SR that ships with the SR6003 looks a little disappointing. It's missing programmable buttons for device-specific functions such as "Top Menu" for DVD players, for example. So power users may want to opt for a remote such as the Logitech Harmony One as well.

Outlook:Having missed a generation, the mid-range 6000 model is back, and looks to be better than ever. It boasts a clean design, cutting edge specs, and a high degree of connectivity. It will be available in the coming weeks at S$1,199 (US$881.62).

http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/home_av...868494p,00.htm
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Does anyone know what the "Direct-Set Volume" feature refers to for Marantz receivers? I don't see any mention of it in manuals. Does it mean that you can store different volume level "presets" that you can recall later with the remote or is it something else? Thanks.
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$900 for the 6003 is not bad. Hopefully, JR or some other place will have a pre-order discount of say $300 to entice me.
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Marantz 6003 is very appealing, hopefully performance is as good as the looks.
I just dont understand why they decided to settle with just 3 HDMI inputs.

It would be nice to know if (or more likely when) Marantz is going to support Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume technologies.
I would be a happy camper if SR7003 or SR8003 had all those plus some other gizmos but somehow i dont see that happening.
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It would be nice to know if (or more likely when) Marantz is going to support Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume technologies.
I would be a happy camper if SR7003 or SR8003 had all those plus some other gizmos but somehow i dont see that happening.


This is the question for me, except on the 5003 -- I saw no mention of Dynamic Vol/EQ in the linked manual... I'm hoping for a firmware upgrade with them!

I'd like a receiver with pre-outs that supports MultEQ, Dynamic Volume and Dynamic EQ... but it seems the cheapest I can find one for is a bit over 1k, which seems rather ridiculous as a receiver with the Audyssey stuff is cheap and a receiver with pre-outs is cheap, but together it's like some some of pricing synergy where I end up screwed. I refuse to believe a company can't make a receiver with those features for a reasonable price (or a separate with those features, but separates inevitably mean expensive for some inexplicable reason -- why is there no $500-700 separates? Emotiva seems about the only option there), but I digress...
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6003 cost $1200 here http://www.wildwestelectronics.net/m...-receiver.html No go for me. I don't expect other places to sell it for much less.
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I have a question for the Marantz specialists/fans/whatever. I'm considering the 6003 versus the Denon 1909/2309. Apparently the Marantz is more an alternative to the 2809 if we look at the price, but it's a bit hard for me to understand why it's that expensive. It has one more HDMI out + USB, but except that, it seems more like a 2309 without the Dynamic Volume/EQ. But i'm not that familiar with Denon products, so maybe there are other reasons (better video scaler, better build quality, etc...). So i would be very interested in reading comments about their receivers, as I know they would be a very good match with my speakers, and I can get a 6003 at a very good price apparently. Thanks in advance!
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That's a short answer Is just everything better, or is it more obvious according to the sound type (movie, music) or any other criteria?

And for those interested in the 6003, here is the user manual in english:
http://www.marantz.com/pdfs/e_sr6003_man.pdf

And just to make it short: no, you cannot output on both HDMI at the same time... Pity.
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And for those interested in the 6003, here is the user manual in english:
http://www.marantz.com/pdfs/e_sr6003_man.pdf

Only 3 HDMI inputs and no OSD volume overlay over HDMI. That's a little disappointing.
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Read a test in german print magazine AudioVision about the SR5003. Test was quite positive. The one thing which is seemingly missing for me, though, is Dynamic EQ. I'd really like to have that one...
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That's a short answer Is just everything better, or is it more obvious according to the sound type (movie, music) or any other criteria?

And for those interested in the 6003, here is the user manual in english:
http://www.marantz.com/pdfs/e_sr6003_man.pdf

And just to make it short: no, you cannot output on both HDMI at the same time... Pity.

It's marketing. They come from the same company, they are positioned differently...
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BTW, I contacted Marantz Germany and asked them if any of their receivers would support Dynamic EQ. The reply I got was that none of them does.
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FFF, don't you just LOVE those direct, TOTALLY INFORMATIVE answers to our serious questions? Even if it don't have enough HDMI "IN" ports, even if it don't have Dynamic EQ . . . . .

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BTW, I contacted Marantz Germany and asked them if any of their receivers would support Dynamic EQ. The reply I got was that none of them does.

What a shame! I was this close to getting it too So looks like I either stay with the fairly new Pioneer VSX-03TXH I have right now, or spend a wee bit more and go all out for the SC-05.
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BTW, I contacted Marantz Germany and asked them if any of their receivers would support Dynamic EQ. The reply I got was that none of them does.

That is what the Denon brand (within D&M Holdings) is for, to support the latest features.
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