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Well... I have some news, but it's only a little related.... NAD is also doing a Master Series BluRay player entitled the M56 - can't think how they came to that model number! : ) But don't all ditch your M55s as this wont play SACDs or DVD-Audio and I'm not sure it does HDCD either as NAD has pretty much dropped support for that from most of its lineup.
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Can anyone confirm that the final product will be a modular design like the T175?

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Can anyone confirm that the final product will be a modular design like the T175?

yes it will................

M15HD Surround Sound Preamplifier features:
NAD Electronics, the highly regarded manufacturer of high-performance audio and audio/video components, introduces upgraded HD versions of the T 785, T 775, T765 AV Receivers and the T 175 AV Tuner Preamp-Processor. Additionally, NAD premieres Modular Design Construction (MDC) in the new Masters Series M15HD AV Preamp-Processor. These new high-value, High-Definition audio/video components preview at the 2009 International Consumer Electronics Show.

The MDC-enhanced components embody NAD’s unique mechanical design architecture introduced last year, providing enhanced performance, features, flexibility, upgradeability and simplified service.

The MDC-based products include four new entries in NAD’s popular Theater Series — the T 785 HD AV Receiver, T 775 HD AV Receiver, T 765 HD AV Receiver, and T 175 HD Preamp-Tuner-Processor. It also includes NAD’s first MDC-based Masters Series component, the M15HD Surround Sound Processor. All are based on current models that have been significantly upgraded with the new MDC architecture and various high-definition and advanced features.

NAD’s exclusive MDC program employs a series of modules that add valuable features, capabilities and connectivity. The initial plug-in modules (AM 100, AM 200, VM 100 and VM 200) cover digital audio and HDMI functions, component and analog video functions, and two-channel and multi-channel analog audio functions.

The T 785 HD AV Receiver, T 175 HD AV Tuner Preamp-Processor and the M15HD AV Preamp-Processor come equipped with NAD’s new AM 200 and VM 200 Modules. As a result, new features include dual 32-bit Aureus™ 7.1 high-speed digital signal processors (DSPs) by Texas Instruments, Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume by Audyssey; decoding for several advanced audio formats, including Dolby True HD, Dolby Digital Plus and DTS-HD Master Audio; and Sigma Designs’ VXP broadcast
studio quality image processor.

To complete the listening experience, NAD includes two new and complementary technologies from Audyssey — Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume. Audyssey Dynamic EQ preserves the full impact of movie soundtracks at all listening levels, while Dynamic Volume prevents large jumps in loudness when commercials come on and when TV channels or video sources are changed.

In addition, the T 785 HD and T 175 HD each support all standard and high-definition forms up to 2048 x 2048 pixels; motion adaptive de-interlacing with edge interpolation, which eliminates the jagged edge effects common in lesser image/scaling processors; film mode detection with output cadence generation, which gives video the smoothness of film; and programmable scaling with aspect ratio conversion, which perfectly matches a video source with a video display. They have advanced noise reduction and detail enhancement, and frame conversion to and from any refresh rate in NTSC and PAL.

The T 775 HD AV Receiver includes the new AM 200 and VM 100 MDC Modules. Like The T 785 HD, the T 775 HD boasts dual 32-bit Aureus 7.1 high-speed DSPs by Texas Instruments, Audyssey’s MultEQ XT, Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume; decoding for Dolby Digital True HD, Dolby Digital Plus DTS HD, and DTS Master Audio.

The T 775 HD employs the latest version HDMI 1.3 Repeater from Analog Devices. All input resolutions up to 1080p are fully supported at the output as well as cross conversion of legacy analog formats. Further, all existing analog inputs are also available for up-conversion to HDMI output. Deep Color and xvYCC Expanded Color Space are supported to fully realize the highest possible video resolutions, now and for the foreseeable future. The NAD T 775 HD HDMI repeater also generates an on-screen display (OSD) and de-interlaces legacy standard definition formats.

The T 765 HD AV Receiver includes the AM 100 and VM 100 Modules, bringing with it new HD features that include HDMI 1.3 repeaters for three digital sources, an on-screen display via HDMI, eight-channel pulse code modulated (PCM) audio (decoded or LPCM), two-channel PCM audio (encoded), and decoding for Dolby Digital True HD, Dolby Digital Plus DTS HD and Master Audio High Resolution Audio.

NAD’s new HD AV components will be available in February from authorized NAD dealers at the following suggested (U.S. MSRP) prices:

T 785 HD AV Receiver.......................................$3,999
T 775 HD AV Receiver.......................................$2,999
T 765 HD AV Receiver.......................................$2,499
T 175 HD Preamp-Tuner-Processor......................$2,999
M15 HD AV Surround Sound Processor/Preamp......$3,999
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I have not heard anything more but I am trying to keep up on new info.
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yes it will................

OSD available on Component Video output

Strange that OSD is not available through HDMI. At least that's what this seems to imply.

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Strange that OSD is not available through HDMI. At least that's what this seems to imply.

yeah, hard to say. I could'nt imagine not having OSD via-HDMI, especially when the T175 already has this capability.
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T 175 HD Preamp-Tuner-Processor......................$2,999
M15 HD AV Surround Sound Processor/Preamp......$3,999

Does anyone know the specific differences?
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yeah, hard to say. I could'nt imagine not having OSD via-HDMI, especially when the T175 already has this capability.


I guess we'll see. I spoke to NAD today... They claim it SHOULD be shipping in mid April but couldn't guarantee it. Depends on their bench testing results.

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I guess we'll see. I spoke to NAD today... They claim it SHOULD be shipping in mid April but couldn't guarantee it. Depends on their bench testing results.

same scenario always, get used to it. I'm sure tese unit's will perform well. Also I'd be really suprised if they don't have any issues after they're shipped.
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Does anyone know the specific differences?

essentially it's the difference betweenthe M-Series design/construction compared to the T-Series design/construction. Both are good, but the M-Series should yield slightly more refined analog sound (better pre-amp design). Better components.
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FWIW...spoke quickly with Bob M at NAD/Lenbrook and he says he is hearing April for the cards now and says he has not been told why there is a delay....

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Does anyone have insight into the specifics of Audyssey for the M15HD?

I'm interested in knowing if I will be able to run the room correction set up myself if I were to buy an M15HD, and whether it will have Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume.

I had read that the T175HD will have MultEQ XT while the M15HD will have Audyssey Pro. And I thought this meant an owner can run Audyssey RC on the T175HD, but would have to hire an Audyssey Pro calibrator to set up the room correction on the M15HD. I like the idea of having Audyssey Pro available, but not at the expense of being able to do a set-up yourself.

Any clarification would be appreciated.

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I had read that the T175HD will have MultEQ XT while the M15HD will have Audyssey Pro. And I thought this meant an owner can run Audyssey RC on the T175HD, but would have to hire an Audyssey Pro calibrator to set up the room correction on the M15HD. I like the idea of having Audyssey Pro available, but not at the expense of being able to do a set-up yourself.

Any clarification would be appreciated.

You may have read this from my posting. I was told that about the M15HD at CEDIA last September in a casual conversation with one of the NAD people but have not heard anything on this point since then. So, you can take it as a rumor, by now, and we will have to wait until the product is released. Soon, I hope.

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Is this a balanced output design?
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NAD is being really tight lipped, even with their dealers, apparently. While disappointing, perhaps it is better than making false promises.
From the press release quoted above (and therefore confirmed), both T175HD and M15HD will have the same AM200 module, with all of the MultEQ XT, Pro, Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume.
From the latest rumors here on AVS (and therefore unconfirmed), the release of the AM200 modules is delayed until at least one month from now (anybody's guess why - economic problems, HDMI problems, software problems?), which means late April. It seems likely then that M15HD will be delayed even longer - still need to test how the modules behave together with everything else inside the box.
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Is this a balanced output design?

Not as it has been shown, to date. This is extremely unfortunate, as I have targeted it as my next pre-pro, and not having balanced connections will cost me a fortune in cables.


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I’m very interested in the M15. I plan on picking up the new Oppo BD player, once they work out all the bugs (and release it to the market). So if I picked up a M15, I would use the 7.1 analog inputs to take advantage of the new HD surround formats. I would upgrade the M15 to the M15HD, but not for a year or two. I have not been able to find a direct answer to the question of sound management through the 7.1 analog inputs. The NAD web site states:

“Unprocessed analog inputs, whether stereo or via the 7.1 input, remain in the analog mode, sometimes known as ‘bypass’ mode. If a digital processing mode is selected, these signals are digitized using a 128x over-sampling Sigma/Delta ADC that employs a linear phase digital anti-aliasing filter to prevent any trace of ripple in the audio band. This superb quality ADC operates at 192MHz and full 24 bit resolution.”

This makes it sound like you can chose between analog bypass or digital sound management on the 7.1 analog inputs. Can someone confirm the use of sound management on the analog inputs?

Also, I have read much on the bugs and quirks of the T175. Does the M15 have these same issues?
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I would upgrade the M15 to the M15HD, but not for a year or two.

don't think the (original) M15 will be compatible with M15HD- it does'nt have modular design (I don't think) to allow for using circuit "cards".

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I have not been able to find a direct answer to the question of sound management through the 7.1 analog inputs

The M15, while having very pristine soudning pre-amp section, has poor bass management and HDMI implementation.

I would either wait for the M15HD to be released, or get a T175 or T175HD (once it is released).
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I emailed NAD support to see if the M15 is upgradeable, I fear it's not.

The M15HD sounds like a great unit but $3999 is a little steep for my budget. I can pickup a used T175, upgrade it and save myself a few bucks.
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t175 hd may still have the pops and cracks problems not yet solved.

besides m15 is in a different league.

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Was supposed to be end of April...dealer told me now bumped to end of May
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Was supposed to be end of April...dealer told me now bumped to end of May

There is a delay with the Sigma Designs video processor. The manufacturer is running behind. Same things are going on with Anthem.

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There is a delay with the Sigma Designs video processor. The manufacturer is running behind. Same things are going on with Anthem.

I had heard that too, but the Anthems are shipping...
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I believe Bob Moran mentioned the new HD video card would retail for $900.00 .

He also mentioned that there will be two different new HD audio DSP cards. Each would feature on-board decoding for Dolby-Tru HD and DTS-HD MA. One would include the Audyssey Auto EQ/Dynamic Volume upgrade ($600.00), while the other would only feature HD audio decoding ($400.00).

Would these upgrades be available for the 2008 T-175 model?

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Would these upgrades be available for the 2008 T-175 model?

yes, all T175 unit's..........
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yes, all T175 unit's..........

Thanks! I think Im going to like the NAD-T175's upgrade abilities sorry about the thread OT....back to the M15HD!

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I believe Bob Moran mentioned the new HD video card would retail for $900.00 .

He also mentioned that there will be two different new HD audio DSP cards. Each would feature on-board decoding for Dolby-Tru HD and DTS-HD MA. One would include the Audyssey Auto EQ/Dynamic Volume upgrade ($600.00), while the other would only feature HD audio decoding ($400.00).

Would these upgrades be available for the 2008 T-175 model?

Would the above inquired about upgrades be included in the M15HD?

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Would the above inquire about upgrades be included in the M15HD?

I'm pretty sure some configuration of those cards will be included, or something fairly equivalent (if not the same part No.'s)
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does anyone know when is it coming out
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Does M15 or T175 accept 7.1 LPCM via HDMI in their current implementation?

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