Originally Posted by Macfan424
Not to start an argument, coyote595.
No arguement here! Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. There are much bigger issues in life to argue over than how a stereo system should sound.
It just seems silly to have a top of the line AVR that has less convenient tone control than my 26 year old Kenwood stereo reveiver with outboard Teac 10 band EQ. I could make that system sound exactly as I wished in a few minutes. I still have it, and for music, I have yet to make my new SC-05 sound any better, with the exception that it seems to have a little lower noise floor.
Actually Pioneer does mention in the SC-05 manual that tweaking the EQ by ear is recommended if the auto set-up is still not satisfactory to the listener. The real issue here is not how something should sound, beacuse everyone will have a different opinion. I do not think someone else should determine for me how I like something to sound. If Pioneer or any other manfacturer goes to the effort to add a integral, adjustable EQ, there is no reason restrict is use to only a test tone source.
For example, if there is too much simblance in the sound of a singing voice, and the MCACC did not remove quite all of it, one should be able to listen to the source while slowly moving down the 4K and/or 8K sliders until it just goes away. If you cannot do that while listening to a test tone, it becomes this trial and error method going in and out of the EQ display until you get it right.
If someone likes the sound that someone else determined to be "good", there is nothing wrong with that. However, not everyone will agree that it sounds right. I play four musical instruments and listen to alot of live music. When the SC-05 adjusts the tone to flat, that is exactly how it sounds - flat. I would like my new, expensive receiver to be able to allow tailoring of the sound at least as easily and effectively as my vintage equipment does. After all, sound production and enhancement is what audio equipment is for. Everyone's ears are different.
This reminds me of Henry Ford's early policy that, "you can have your new Ford automobile any color you want - as long as it is black"!
Again, everyone's opinion is just a valuable as mine. There is no right answer when it comes to what sounds good. It is a personal preference. The manufacturers should make it easy for everyone to find the sound that is right for them. EQing to a test tone is not the easiest way to fine one's preferred sound.