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post #4591 of 4619 Old 07-17-2015, 02:18 PM
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Superfrg, I'm using the JC2 BP with the A21, and it sounds incredible (with Sonus Faber speakers). But I haven't compared it to the P5.
Any comparisons from the JC2 to the P5, or any other preamps you've had?
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No, I don't have that problem. Do you keep the remote on a warm surface?
I left it there for a while not using it as I was travelling..not sure if that spoilt the surface?

Juat wondering why Parasound doesnt make a hard back surface like many other brands which will have no problem like this?
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My Parasound JC2BP remote has its rear surface turning into sticky surface making it uncomfortable to hold. Anyone has this problem?
Are you leaving it on something with vinyl covering? Vinyl, especially older material, has chemicals that can damage other substances through chemical reaction. Nitrocellulose lacquer and some rubber pool table bumpers are two of them.

Vinyl protectant (Armor All and stuff like that) could be a problem, too.

Stop leaving the remote where it has been and see if it changes.

I have seen food cause this, too. If someone has been using the remote while eating or immediately after eating, they need to wash their hands.

I'm not assuming anything, but I have found that all kinds of food coming in contact with remote controls has caused problems.
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Are you leaving it on something with vinyl covering? Vinyl, especially older material, has chemicals that can damage other substances through chemical reaction. Nitrocellulose lacquer and some rubber pool table bumpers are two of them.

Vinyl protectant (Armor All and stuff like that) could be a problem, too.

Stop leaving the remote where it has been and see if it changes.

I have seen food cause this, too. If someone has been using the remote while eating or immediately after eating, they need to wash their hands.

I'm not assuming anything, but I have found that all kinds of food coming in contact with remote controls has caused problems.
Nope..just in a drawer stored away from sunlight. Maybe the moisture caused it as i havent been using it for a while (couple of months).

My other remotes have no problem for years while this 2bp remote was merely a year or so
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Nope..just in a drawer stored away from sunlight. Maybe the moisture caused it as i havent been using it for a while (couple of months).

My other remotes have no problem for years while this 2bp remote was merely a year or so
What else is in the drawer? I have noticed that some other remotes with a "rubberized" coating become gummy and sometimes, it peels off, eventually. This needs some kind of chemical reaction, though.
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What else is in the drawer? I have noticed that some other remotes with a "rubberized" coating become gummy and sometimes, it peels off, eventually. This needs some kind of chemical reaction, though.
All the remotes..flat on the drawer on a piece of anti slip mat. Could the mat caused it?
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Nope..just in a drawer stored away from sunlight. Maybe the moisture caused it as i havent been using it for a while (couple of months).

My other remotes have no problem for years while this 2bp remote was merely a year or so
My JC 2 BP remote has been in the storage area of my recliner and shows no similar problem. I use a Harmony One, so almost never see or touch the JC 2 BP remote. Just took it out to examine it after your post.

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All the remotes..flat on the drawer on a piece of anti slip mat. Could the mat caused it?
I had the same thing happen with a Craftsman Laser Infrared Thermometer I purchased several years ago. The housing is part red plastic and part rubberized coating. Stored it in a drawer on top of an anti slip mat. Didn't use it much but about a month ago, I went to use it and the rubberized coating was sticky. Rather gross... felt like the rubber areas were sprayed with something tacky.


I don't think it was the mat because it wasn't just sticky where it rested on the mat... it was sticky everywhere the rubber coating was. I tried several "safe" methods of removal but they didn't work. Searched online and others were having the same problem and said to clean it with isopropyl alcohol. It worked perfectly and didn't discolor or damage the red plastic at all.


I get the feeling it's the type of rubberized coating used. Since yours is only coated on the bottom you might try cleaning a small area there to see if it works for you. Good luck.
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Thanks, dude. A Parasound service personel has advised me the next step to take for them to send a new replacement. Lets hope things work out ok. Keep you guys updated bout this. Btw, JC2bp rocks!
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Thanks, dude. A Parasound service personel has advised me the next step to take for them to send a new replacement. Lets hope things work out ok. Keep you guys updated bout this. Btw, JC2bp rocks!
are the batteries leaking?....
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Definitely not. I took them out before storing
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Hey folks...

New proud owner of a Halo A31 3 channel amp running my fronts and center. Just got it up and running last night, looking for advice on the gain control settings on Halo amps. The manual says normal setting at 12 o'clock is THX reference standard which means a 1v input from the pre-amp converts to 28V. My Marantz AV7005 using balanced outputs is specd at 2.4V. Should I turn the gain down below normal on the Halo? I do notice a slight hiss from the tweeter that wasn't there before with my Rotel amp. Speakers are GoldenEar Triton 5s rated at 90 db efficiency. If I do turn the gain down a bit the hiss almost totally disappears, am I just sacrificing sheer volume output by doing that?

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Hey folks...

New proud owner of a Halo A31 3 channel amp running my fronts and center. Just got it up and running last night, looking for advice on the gain control settings on Halo amps. The manual says normal setting at 12 o'clock is THX reference standard which means a 1v input from the pre-amp converts to 28V. My Marantz AV7005 using balanced outputs is specd at 2.4V. Should I turn the gain down below normal on the Halo? I do notice a slight hiss from the tweeter that wasn't there before with my Rotel amp. Speakers are GoldenEar Triton 5s rated at 90 db efficiency. If I do turn the gain down a bit the hiss almost totally disappears, am I just sacrificing sheer volume output by doing that?

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On the A21, the THX reference is the gain knob turned all the way up, and not at 12 o clock? unless its changed in the A31, which I don't think?

Trial and error is the best IMO, I have my gain maxed but its a bit annoying on the P5 that when I turn up the volume just slightly its actually pretty high.
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On the A21, the THX reference is the gain knob turned all the way up, and not at 12 o clock? unless its changed in the A31, which I don't think?

Trial and error is the best IMO, I have my gain maxed but its a bit annoying on the P5 that when I turn up the volume just slightly its actually pretty high.
Went to see the A21 manual, it is as you say all the way to the right. On the A31 it is the 12 o'clock so they did make that change. Interesting.

I will play with it. Assume the only downside of turning it down is less overall volume output?

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Went to see the A21 manual, it is as you say all the way to the right. On the A31 it is the 12 o'clock so they did make that change. Interesting.

I will play with it. Assume the only downside of turning it down is less overall volume output?
Thats strange

Yes, but don't you have a enough volume from the preamp to give off, so to speak?
I wouldn't worry too much, i'd rather remove that hissing part
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Thats strange

Yes, but don't you have a enough volume from the preamp to give off, so to speak?
I wouldn't worry too much, i'd rather remove that hissing part
Yes, seems like more than enough output from my Marantz preamp. It puts out 2.4V on the balanced out so double the RCA outs, which is where Parasound says to set the gain at normal. Think I'll turn it down to remove the hiss then recalibrate and see how it goes. 250W should be just fine with that approach.

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The Marantz only has 1.2 volts at the RCA outputs? That's not a lot for an amp. I found in the A31 manual that the gains will add 6 db at full, and that's different than the a21 for sure. I'm not sure on the gain position where unity is for the A31, but putting it below that by a couple of db certainly won't do any harm. When you run the room correction or otherwise set up the levels for each channel, it will all be balanced out anyway.
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The Marantz only has 1.2 volts at the RCA outputs? That's not a lot for an amp. I found in the A31 manual that the gains will add 6 db at full, and that's different than the a21 for sure. I'm not sure on the gain position where unity is for the A31, but putting it below that by a couple of db certainly won't do any harm. When you run the room correction or otherwise set up the levels for each channel, it will all be balanced out anyway.
XLR connections, I found the the A31 at the max setting soured best.
So for XLR, I would turn it all the way up.

If you have low output from the source device than maximum gain the the right choice.

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The Marantz only has 1.2 volts at the RCA outputs? That's not a lot for an amp. I found in the A31 manual that the gains will add 6 db at full, and that's different than the a21 for sure. I'm not sure on the gain position where unity is for the A31, but putting it below that by a couple of db certainly won't do any harm. When you run the room correction or otherwise set up the levels for each channel, it will all be balanced out anyway.
That is what the specs say on my Marantz pre/pro for the RCA unbalanced outputs. The XLR outputs are 2.4V, so that is why I think I'd be just fine turning the gain down just a bit. The A31 at the normal setting says it meets THX spec at 1V input.

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Rich, i don't know if you saw his problem, but he gets some hiss at full gain.
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Rich, i don't know if you saw his problem, but he gets some hiss at full gain.
I was wondering if there could also be an issue with my Marantz AV7005. The XLR outputs are not truly balanced but I would still think they'd sound better than the RCA unbalanced outputs. From what I've researched the Halo amps sound better with the XLR inputs.

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Rich, i don't know if you saw his problem, but he gets some hiss at full gain.
Thanks, I missed that.

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I was wondering if there could also be an issue with my Marantz AV7005. The XLR outputs are not truly balanced but I would still think they'd sound better than the RCA unbalanced outputs. From what I've researched the Halo amps sound better with the XLR inputs.
Parasound recommends the XLR input and I have found that my halo amps have a lower noise floor with them.

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Another question. My Halo A31 manual says to not use speaker wire smaller than 16ga. I'm running Audioquest CV-4 cable that is 17ga that I've had with my previous Rotel amp. Is there a reason to upgrade to thicker speaker cable? Thanks.

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Parasound recommends the XLR input and I have found that my halo amps have a lower noise floor with them.

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Rich...what brand of XLR are you using? I picked up some Monoprice just to have for when my amp arrived but wondering if I should upgrade to something like BlueJeans? Thanks.

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Another question. My Halo A31 manual says to not use speaker wire smaller than 16ga. I'm running Audioquest CV-4 cable that is 17ga that I've had with my previous Rotel amp. Is there a reason to upgrade to thicker speaker cable? Thanks.
As long as you have a decent to high quality cable, you should be fine. I would leave it.
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Parasound recommends the XLR input and I have found that my halo amps have a lower noise floor with them.

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Rich...what brand of XLR are you using? I picked up some Monoprice just to have for when my amp arrived but wondering if I should upgrade to something like BlueJeans? Thanks.
I have used monoprice but switched to bluejeans because I could order more precise lengths.

Both are dead quiet with the A21s

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My JC 1s are mated with a JC 2 preamp and make my KEF Reference 107/2s sing in a way they never did with the excellent Proceed HPA 3. Pipe organ pedal notes pour forth with astonishing authority while the metallic sound of the smallest pipes is rendered convincingly, making the famous Bach toccata and fugue a special treat. The sound of the setup from top to bottom is superb. I run the amps with low bias. The two sets of speaker lugs makes biwiring especially convenient.

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