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Hi guys - I'm building a new room and looking to purchase a used Parasound A51, A31, A21 and/or A23, or some combination thereof. If you own any of these units in great physical and working condition and are interested in selling, please send me a PM with the details including asking price. Thanks!
lovingdvd - I have an A21 in awesome condition to sell. Since I rarely post and have a low post count, I can't PM you here, but if you're interested in more info., PM me, and I'll let you know how to reach me directly.
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lipsync upgrade for c1 or c2

i know that i'm very late with this question but i'd like to know has anyone done the lipsync upgrade for their c1 or c2 processor? if so, were the improvements very useful or were they minor? thanks for any comments.
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I purchased a refurbished A21 with full factory warranty about 8 weeks ago from Safe and Sound (great retailer!!). About 5 weeks after I had it, one channel started getting "scratchy", and the volume was very quiet compared to the other channel.

I wrote an e-mail to Parasound on a Saturday night, and I got a reply in 20 minutes from the PRESIDENT of the company! After doing some debugging, it was determined that the A21 needed service.

Parasound sent me a shipping label. Sent it back, and they had it repaired within 2 days and shipped back.

Now that, my friends, is amazing customer service, and they have a loyal fanboy for life! Thanks, Parasound!
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I moved from a 25 year old Adcom 545 II to a used Parasound 2125, and could not be happier. I can't even get the thing to clip with my KEF Q85s!

At the same time, I bought a Zpre2 on a whim, which went unused for the most part. One day, I started swapping around 2ch gear and installed the Parasound pre, wow....quite surprised how much more clarity it had over my NAD T168.

So, I dumped the NAD for a Parasound 7100, again, wow....it's so revealing and clear. Did not expect a performance bump, but it's clear as day. My main system is 2ch, even when I had the NAD AVR, so I really didn't care if I bought a full-sized 2ch pre amp or an AV pre, but the Parasound preamps go for over $600, the AV pre cost less than half of that. Either way, my amp and preamp brand is Parasound, for good.
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I purchased a refurbished A21 with full factory warranty about 8 weeks ago from Safe and Sound (great retailer!!). About 5 weeks after I had it, one channel started getting "scratchy", and the volume was very quiet compared to the other channel.

I wrote an e-mail to Parasound on a Saturday night, and I got a reply in 20 minutes from the PRESIDENT of the company! After doing some debugging, it was determined that the A21 needed service.

Parasound sent me a shipping label. Sent it back, and they had it repaired within 2 days and shipped back.

Now that, my friends, is amazing customer service, and they have a loyal fanboy for life! Thanks, Parasound!
Richard Schram has been very helpful to me as well.

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Richard is one of the nicest guys in the AV industry. He's pure class.

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Richard is one of the nicest guys in the AV industry. He's pure class.
+100000 , He keeps rare company on my very short list of elite service and then some
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Parasound offers excellent service that many other manufacturers could learn from, happy to hear your problem got solved swiftly!
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lovingdvd - I have an A21 in awesome condition to sell. Since I rarely post and have a low post count, I can't PM you here, but if you're interested in more info., PM me, and I'll let you know how to reach me directly.
I'm interested in one as well is yours black ?
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I'm interested in one as well is yours black ?
Is it still available? Is it black?
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It's been a while since I last visited this forum as I have gone to the HDMI dark side with the purchase of a Marantz 8802A AVP. What this means is that I have a C-2 for sale that's in excellent shape. All remotes, cords and manuals are included in their original boxes. Price is $250.00 plus shipping. Here's a chance to get an excellent analog pre-pro for a song.

PM me if interested.
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Hi fellas, I'm looking to purchase either one single JC1 or A51 in mint condition. If you or anyone have one for sale for a good deal please point me in the right direction. Thank you BTW, I love my JC1's. I went in a full circle. Had a pair of JC1s awhile back with the Ayre K5xeMP and Dynaudio C4 MKII's and boy was that an amazing sound. I sold them because I thought they were running too hot. Switched to class D's for awhile. At first had the Bel Canto Ref-500m which sounded pretty good. Then tried a pair of REF-1000m and that had even more headroom and sounded good too. Then I switched to W4S SX1000 and still sounded pretty good. Then went to a pair of D-Sonic M3-1500m which had the most power but the sound was okay. I noticed a loud volumes with the D-Sonic, I heard some weird anomalies. At first I thought it was my speakers then my room. I treated my room with GIK panels with the help of Bryan Page. The highs were just getting in the way. I ended selling my whole sound system and purchased the Salks. I purchased three Emotiva XPRs and loved the sound with my Salks but I noticed the XPRs were not dead quite. I purchased another pair of Bel Canto REF-1000m to pair with my Salks. Sounded pretty good but I realized Bel Cantos don't offer a power trigger, so I sold them and decided to give the D-Sonics another try. That was a big mistake on my part. The speakers sounded horrible with my D-Sonics. The highs were fatiguing and harsh. There was a lot of sibilance that was not there before. The bass sounded rolled off too. I'm sure with some burn-in the amps might have opened up more and maybe the sibilance would have improved but I don't think it would have improved that much to the point I was going to be happy. That was a 400 dollar restocking fee mistake. I only had the amps for about a week and no budging with the owner. Anyways not hating on the amps. I think D-Sonic amps are a good match for warming sounding systems. Anyways repurchased the JC1s and I could not be happier. Wow! The sound is just amazing! It has a more natural warm sound the I love. The sibilance is literally gone. I can actually use my Marantz with the Audyssey on and still no sibilance. Even with the XPRs, there was some sibilance when I had Audyssey on. Anyways sorry for the long rant. I just love these amps. I just need another JC1 to power my center and then I plan on picking up an inexpensive 5 or 7 channel amps to power my surround speakers.

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Yep that's a circle alright! I've been on a journey too, but I kept the speakers, Paradigm Signature S6. I first ran them with all Emotiva gear. Harsh with sibilance, though that was with the XPA line and their 1st generation cd player and DAC. Man that system was harsh. Anyway, over time I sold all the Emo gear and first got an Oppo 95, then the Halo A21, then after some experimentation the Halo P7. The sibilance went away when I got the A21, and now with good quality IC's by Morrow Audio and speaker cables by Audioquest(Type 4), it's a 3D sounstage with imaging and detail that is at times jaw dropping. Parasound is really where it's at. Too many times us audiophiles wonder what if and listen to the gear instead of the music.

You may know this, but JC1's occasionally pop up for sale on Audiogon.com, that's where I got my A21. Right now there is an ad but they are roughed up a little. If you wait a few weeks, I'm sure another ad will pop up. AudioAdvisor also puts factory reconditioned models on sale now and then, you might phone them up to see if they have any room on price at that point. Good luck!
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Whoops, my post didn't post so I clicked again and ended up with a double.
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I sold them because I thought they were running too hot.
I have three JC 1s. If you use low bias they run much cooler. You may rarely if ever get to 10 watts, so they'll run Class A even in low bias.

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All good advice. Thanks guys. I was at one point convinced all amps sound alike including dacs but boy was I wrong. You don't realize until you go up the latter and than go down the latter.
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Question on trigger cable:

I'm using an Emotiva XMC-1 processor (which I love) with an A21. Today, I'm using the "auto sensing" feature to turn on the A21, but I'd like to use a trigger cable.

My problem is that my XMC-1 is about 6' from the A21, and the enclosed trigger cable isn't long enough.

Does anybody know where I can find a longer trigger cable that'll work?
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Question on trigger cable:

I'm using an Emotiva XMC-1 processor (which I love) with an A21. Today, I'm using the "auto sensing" feature to turn on the A21, but I'd like to use a trigger cable.

My problem is that my XMC-1 is about 6' from the A21, and the enclosed trigger cable isn't long enough.

Does anybody know where I can find a longer trigger cable that'll work?
You can get an extender or buy a long 3.5mm cable and use one of these adapters:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...rch_detailpage

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Does Emotiva use the same diameter plug that Parasound does? The Parasound manual lists the A21 trigger size as 2.5mm. Some companies use 3.5mm, but the Emotiva manual does not list the size they use, but it should at least need a mono jack.

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Does Emotiva use the same diameter plug that Parasound does? The Parasound manual lists the A21 trigger size as 2.5mm. Some companies use 3.5mm, but the Emotiva manual does not list the size they use, but it should at least need a mono jack.
Emotiva uses 3.5mm.
The Parasound A21 uses 2.5mm. Some Parasound's use 2.5mm.


Parasound ships with both cables. An adapter or extender cable is a simple solution.


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Does anybody know where I can find a longer trigger cable that'll work?
I got a bunch from http://www.deepsurplus.com. Prices are outstanding.
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You can get an extender or buy a long 3.5mm cable and use one of these adapters:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...rch_detailpage

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Okay, I hadn't clicked on your link, assuming that it was for a cable for some reason!
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Do I use a stereo or mono cable for the trigger?
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Do I use a stereo or mono cable for the trigger?
Mono.
Don't hesitate to call if you are having trouble with this.

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My first "Parasound Owners" thread post (I think).

Any other ZoneMaster 1250 owners (Dave V chime in please)?

I have had this amplifier since April and have it bridged for 6 channels to power my 4 Atmos ceiling speakers, and 2 front heights. I have a toggle switch to flip between the top front Atmos speaker pair in the ceiling, and my existing front height speakers. The toggle switch controls the ZoneMaster amplifier's trigger inputs while the top front Atmos signal is bussed across 2 bridged amp channel pairs. It was just an experiment to move the Atmos speaker locations on the fly and I sometimes like the results. Quite honestly I seldom use it.

The ZoneMaster is the most configurable and versatile amplifier I have ever experienced. It really gets an Atmos workout from Blu-ray titles like Mad Max Fury Road and still runs pretty cool. Just for the heck of it one day I ran my L&R Vandersteens from the ZoneMaster and it was exceptionally revealing of music.

Halo A21 - L&R
Halo A31 - Center, surround L&R
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Surrounds, front heights - Energy RVSS dipole/bipole
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My first "Parasound Owners" thread post (I think).

Any other ZoneMaster 1250 owners (Dave V chime in please)?

I have had this amplifier since April and have it bridged for 6 channels to power my 4 Atmos ceiling speakers, and 2 front heights. I have a toggle switch to flip between the top front Atmos speaker pair in the ceiling, and my existing front height speakers. The toggle switch controls the ZoneMaster amplifier's trigger inputs while the top front Atmos signal is bussed across 2 bridged amp channel pairs. It was just an experiment to move the Atmos speaker locations on the fly and I sometimes like the results. Quite honestly I seldom use it.

The ZoneMaster is the most configurable and versatile amplifier I have ever experienced. It really gets an Atmos workout from Blu-ray titles like Mad Max Fury Road and still runs pretty cool. Just for the heck of it one day I ran my L&R Vandersteens from the ZoneMaster and it was exceptionally revealing of music.

Halo A21 - L&R
Halo A31 - Center, surround L&R
Zamp v.3 - Zone 2
Zamp v.3 - Zone 3
Marantz AV8802A
Oppo BDP-103D
Paradigm Sub 15
Vandersteen VCC-2 center
Vandersteen 2CE Signature MkII
Surrounds, front heights - Energy RVSS dipole/bipole
Furman conditioning/protection
How do standard heights work as front ATMOS speakers? I have front heights on wall and surrounds in ceiling that are not being used but thinking about the 8802A but don't want to redo overhead speakers as recently blown in new insulation from all my previous attic exploits. Hoping DTS:X would address that.
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My first "Parasound Owners" thread post (I think).

Any other ZoneMaster 1250 owners (Dave V chime in please)?

I have had this amplifier since April and have it bridged for 6 channels to power my 4 Atmos ceiling speakers, and 2 front heights. I have a toggle switch to flip between the top front Atmos speaker pair in the ceiling, and my existing front height speakers. The toggle switch controls the ZoneMaster amplifier's trigger inputs while the top front Atmos signal is bussed across 2 bridged amp channel pairs. It was just an experiment to move the Atmos speaker locations on the fly and I sometimes like the results. Quite honestly I seldom use it.

The ZoneMaster is the most configurable and versatile amplifier I have ever experienced. It really gets an Atmos workout from Blu-ray titles like Mad Max Fury Road and still runs pretty cool. Just for the heck of it one day I ran my L&R Vandersteens from the ZoneMaster and it was exceptionally revealing of music.

Halo A21 - L&R
Halo A31 - Center, surround L&R
Zamp v.3 - Zone 2
Zamp v.3 - Zone 3
Marantz AV8802A
Oppo BDP-103D
Paradigm Sub 15
Vandersteen VCC-2 center
Vandersteen 2CE Signature MkII
Surrounds, front heights - Energy RVSS dipole/bipole
Furman conditioning/protection
I would love to see some photos if you are willing. I like to take them to our tech meetings to show real world applications of the Zonemaster amps. The Zonemaster 650, 450 and 250 are also great ways to power those extra ATMOS channels.

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I would love to see some photos if you are willing. I like to take them to our tech meetings to show real world applications of the Zonemaster amps. The Zonemaster 650, 450 and 250 are also great ways to power those extra ATMOS channels.

You can see the toggle switch on the left side on the 1U vent rack above the ZoneMaster.
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How do standard heights work as front ATMOS speakers? I have front heights on wall and surrounds in ceiling that are not being used but thinking about the 8802A but don't want to redo overhead speakers as recently blown in new insulation from all my previous attic exploits. Hoping DTS:X would address that.
Switching to the Front Heights from the Atmos ceiling speakers doesn't really sound as good for movement and immersion. You loose something with them not being overhead.

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