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post #5131 of 5157 Old 08-19-2016, 05:13 AM
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I do not think it is bright but it sounds lean to me. Accurate but lean. Every other amp I've heard in my system has had a bit more grunt.



This is with the A52. That lean character is just about perfect for movies, if you ask me, because movies tend to over do it in the bass.


The A52 is like the A23. Where it may sound lean which I can sort of get as i had one I believe the larger amps do not. My experience is with the A31.


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Would the 8802 perform
Better than the p5 for music ? Deciding if I should do a oppo ,p5 combo with my marantz 7008 , or buy a marantz8802 and use the dacs in that
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I posted in the 8802 thread as well but will note that I my previous setup was an Oppo 105 with an 8801 and got better performance out of the 8802 and that was even running the Oppo Direct to my Halo A21.
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Has anyone experienced poor channel matching with their P5? I've had one for a while (5mo) and noticed that channel matching is not very good at lower volumes and still not perfect at moderate to higher volumes. The L channel is always slightly louder. I've tried it with different speakers and swapping the speakers from L to R with the same results. I have a feeling it is the volume pot design as I've read some similar accounts.

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Hey guys, looking to upgrade a couple components in my HT setup in the coming year. Has anyone heard of any new products coming out from Parasound this year such as AV controller or Blu ray player? I know they cancelled production of a receiver model years back, just checking to see if anyone has heard anything new?
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Hey guys, looking to upgrade a couple components in my HT setup in the coming year. Has anyone heard of any new products coming out from Parasound this year such as AV controller or Blu ray player? I know they cancelled production of a receiver model years back, just checking to see if anyone has heard anything new?
Nope. During a recent 3 hour dinner/discussion with Richard Schramm, that topic never came up.

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Nope. During a recent 3 hour dinner/discussion with Richard Schramm, that topic never came up.
Kal, what did come up?
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Just a lot of gab between two old friends who don't often get such an opportunity. A/V-wise, not much, although I did ask and report about his position on HDMI because someone asked me to do s..

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Hello everybody!!! I need a 3 or 5 channel amp to power my speakers. As of right now this is what i have:

Ascend Acoustic Sierra 2's
Ascend Acoustic Horizon Center (with RAAL tweeter)

I plan to get the Sierra Satellites (when they come out) and Rythmik F15 sub.

I'm using Yamaha aventage rxa-2040 right now.

Would a Parasound Halo A52 be a good match? What other options should i be looking at?

What about Parasound HCA-2003A? I'm seeing those used around $600.

My budget would be $1500 max. I've seen a few of those A52's used in that price range.

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Hey guys, looking to upgrade a couple components in my HT setup in the coming year. Has anyone heard of any new products coming out from Parasound this year such as AV controller or Blu ray player? I know they cancelled production of a receiver model years back, just checking to see if anyone has heard anything new?
I can assure you that there will not be a new AV controller from Parasound. Richard can give you the lengthy answer as to why if you want to ask him. I would say the same thing about a Blu-ray player.

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I can assure you that there will not be a new AV controller from Parasound. Richard can give you the lengthy answer as to why if you want to ask him. I would say the same thing about a Blu-ray player.
My guess is that they're too much of an ever-changing commodity product? Amps and stereo preamps lean towards folks who really appreciate sound quality, primarily with music, and doubly appreciate the value that Parasound products can offer in that regard.

I'd love to see the GMAS return.

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Thanks for the information. Parasound has such a great reputation for quality i was just looking at them first to invest my money in. Currently have a Integra DHC 80.3 paired with a Parasound HCA 2205a. Coming months I should be adding another amplifier a A51 and upgrading my AV controller, any advice on other good AV controllers that pair well with Parasound's A51. No real complaints with the Integra just want some opinions on what else is out there and experience with them???
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No real complaints with the Integra just want some opinions on what else is out there and experience with them
Of course there is the Marantz 8802, or the much more expensive Bryston SP3 or Classe SSP800, both of which have reputations for excellent sonics. I'm using an SP3, and can vouch for its excellent sonics. The are several used SSP800s listed in the $4K range. The Bryston and Classe processors will not have all the bells and whistles your Integra or a Marantz has, being aimed instead at the more "purist" market -- most notably absent is acoustic room correction. If excellent stereo sound is a high priority, then either the SP3 or SSP800 will not disappoint.

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Hey all,

I had an A23 back in '06 driving a pair of Von Schweikert VR-2 speakers. I sold it and moved into tube gear. I got out of the hobby in '08 and got back into the hobby late in 2014.

I've gone through a variety of gear and I've settled on a P5 for my preamp duties. I had one in black and sold it to get one in silver to match the amp I'm using.

I did an A/B between the A23 I picked up recently and the amp in my sig and I preferred the amp in my sig. Between the time I sold the black P5 & purchased the silver P5, I used the AVR as a pre / pro. I connected my SONOS to the coaxial digital input on the AVR. It didn't sound "bad" but I thought the P5 sounded better. After getting the silver P5 my assumption was correct, to my ears, in that connecting the SONOS to the internal DAC on the P5 sounds better than the internal DAC on the AVR.

I will have to compare the amplifiers again to be sure I'm making the right choice before I sell one of them.
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So I had to order this and give it a try. It showed up earlier today and I have played it a couple times and there are some crayz low frequencies that I can't really hear, but whoa can you FEEL them!
I played the 3rd symphony on this disc first using my Ayre C-5xeMP, Parasound JC 2 BP preamp, JC 1 amps, and KEF Reference 107/2s. The organ pedal notes are indeed amazing. Then I played the same tracks using my Esoteric SA-60, Bryston SP3 processor with front LR passed through the JC 2 BP to the JC 1 amps and the KEF 107/2s now supplemented with a 40 Hz crossover to a pair of Velodyne HGS-15s and SMS-1 that provides LF acoustic room correction. The HGS-15s can shake the room and produce a feeling pressure on your chest. The interesting point of the comparison is that the pedal notes sounded the same with the same extension on both setups, suggesting the Reference 107/2s are capable of delivering all the LF that's on the disc. Pretty impressive.

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I played the 3rd symphony on this disc first using my Ayre C-5xeMP, Parasound JC 2 BP preamp, JC 1 amps, and KEF Reference 107/2s. The organ pedal notes are indeed amazing. Then I played the same tracks using my Esoteric SA-60, Bryston SP3 processor with front LR passed through the JC 2 BP to the JC 1 amps and the KEF 107/2s now supplemented with a 40 Hz crossover to a pair of Velodyne HGS-15s and SMS-1 that provides LF acoustic room correction. The HGS-15s can shake the room and produce a feeling pressure on your chest. The interesting point of the comparison is that the pedal notes sounded the same with the same extension on both setups, suggesting the Reference 107/2s are capable of delivering all the LF that's on the disc. Pretty impressive.

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Some of those pedals plunge down to 16hz which we can only indeed feel, my mains will shake the room as well (most likely second order harmonics around 32hz excited)but adding my subs to the mix is a different animal as more visceral authority and room shuttering is achieved.

it's truly an amazing recording and even the applause are captured extremely well, shocks me every time I listen
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Some of those pedals plunge down to 16hz which we can only indeed feel, my mains will shake the room as well (most likely second order harmonics around 32hz excited)but adding my subs to the mix is a different animal as more visceral authority and room shuttering is achieved.

it's truly an amazing recording and even the applause are captured extremely well, shocks me every time I listen

Which recording? I skimmed the thread and didn't see which disc mentioned. I have an organ smaller CD and hsu's test CD. I know 31hz will rattle EVERYTHING! 16hz is wondrous to feel, especially if you have multiple subs. Got to experience the difference when I added a second sub. It was much smoother and jarring to the bone.
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Which recording? I skimmed the thread and didn't see which disc mentioned. I have an organ smaller CD and hsu's test CD. I know 31hz will rattle EVERYTHING! 16hz is wondrous to feel, especially if you have multiple subs. Got to experience the difference when I added a second sub. It was much smoother and jarring to the bone.
I believe the reference is to the recording mentioned in post 5060. The hybrid CD/SACD is available from Amazon.
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I believe the reference is to the recording mentioned in post 5060. The hybrid CD/SACD is available from Amazon.

Oh OK. Thanks. I have that on my check out list. I dont have it in FLAC on my phone. Wondering if I have it in mp3 format. Definitely need to check it out if it is well recorded. Some classical is recorded very poorly.
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I believe the reference is to the recording mentioned in post 5060. The hybrid CD/SACD is available from Amazon.
Was available, I think I ordered the last one. Thanks for the link!
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I believe the reference is to the recording mentioned in post 5060.
That's the one I played on both setups. What surprised me was that both the KEF Reference 107/2s and the Velodyne HGS-15s delivered that more felt than heard LF extension equally, but then that's not the first recording of that symphony to reveal such LF output from the KEFs.

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Which recording? I skimmed the thread and didn't see which disc mentioned. I have an organ smaller CD and hsu's test CD. I know 31hz will rattle EVERYTHING! 16hz is wondrous to feel, especially if you have multiple subs. Got to experience the difference when I added a second sub. It was much smoother and jarring to the bone.
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That's the one I played on both setups. What surprised me was that both the KEF Reference 107/2s and the Velodyne HGS-15s delivered that more felt than heard LF extension equally, but then that's not the first recording of that symphony to reveal such LF output from the KEFs.

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Has anyone tried hooking up a JC2-BP to a P7?
I have an Oppo 105 with a P7 and A21 and use them for 2 channel and movies. I wanted to see if it was worth adding a JC2-BP to that loop would be major setup up in 2 channel sound quality.
Im wondering if the P7 will handle all the bass mgmt for the JC2.
any thoughts?

If you do have one set up. how did you hook it up? im guessing 2 channgel XLR out from Oppo 105 to JC2-BP with 1 input on HT bypass and Oppo 105 Multichannel Preouts to P7?

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Has anyone tried hooking up a JC2-BP to a P7?
I have an Oppo 105 with a P7 and A21 and use them for 2 channel and movies. I wanted to see if it was worth adding a JC2-BP to that loop would be major setup up in 2 channel sound quality.
I've never heard one in a setup, but I thought the P7 was supposed to be pretty good. Adding a JC 2 BP for stereo seems a bit over the top, but you might want to contact Richard Schram at Parasound. The JC 2 is probably a better stereo preamp than the front LR of the P7, but is the difference worth the added complexity? Richard might know.

I had a JC 2 BP before I added a processor, so I use the by-pass mode of the preamp as a way for front LR from the processor to access the amps used for stereo. If I didn't already have the JC 2 BP, I'd probably just use the analog input of the Bryston SP3 for stereo as well as multichannel. I suspect both the JC 2 and SP3 approach the wire-with-gain ideal, i.e., provide a clean audio path with amplification, and the P7 may not be far off.

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No real complaints with the Integra just want some opinions on what else is out there and experience with them???
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I have a Krell Foundation (non-4K) that I am really enjoying mated with the Parasound A52. Sounds fantastic for movies, incredible surround sound steering and a good room equalizaton system (ARES) with a really lame mic.

When I measured the ARES results with REW I was surprised at how smooth it made the bass because I thought Krell's effort wouldn't be as good as some of the others.

Supposedly there's going to be a Foundation replacement because of DTS-X etc.

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Can't blame Parasound for sticking with what they excel at. The processor market development is really insane these past years.
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Can't blame Parasound for sticking with what they excel at. The processor market development is really insane these past years.


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