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Anyone had a chance to compare the A51 with the A52? Any improvement in SQ over and above obvious volume differences? better dynamics, perhaps?

I'm not overdriving my speakers now, just wondering if I'll get an improvement if I upgrade, mainly looking for music-- obviously HT will improve with more power.

I'll be keeping the P7 for now. I'd add separate 2ch like the A21 or monos, but I don't have the space right now.

Does anyone know if the A51 is fully balanced? It's unclear from the website.

Have an email to Richard Schram, but don't know if I'll hear back from him in time.

(Got the email, Pal1982).

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Hello,
The A51 is not Fully Balanced. However, it does have a much larger Toroidal Transformer and higher levels of Filter Capacitance compared to the A52. (2.2kVA TT/164,000uf Versus 1.4 kVa TT/100,000uf)
In other words, the A51's TT is almost twice as large and it has a much higher levels of Capacitance.

As to whether you need the added power and power reserves of the A51, I really think this is predicated on the Speakers you are using, the size of your Room, and preferred listening levels.

I use the HCA-2205AT which really is close in Design to the A51 (2.0 kVa TT/150,000uf Capacitance) and absolutely love it. I do like the Industrial Design of the Halo Line, but the differences between the 2 Amplifiers is so close that I cannot justify switching. Both were designed by John Curl.

I will say that if budget is an issue, I would way rather have a used HCA-2205AT over the A52. You can find used 2205's for around 1,200 Dollars and it is very close in Design and Power to the 4,500 Dollar A51.
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Yeah, but big sale right now from the OP's store.

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Just ordered an A51 from Brad (the OP). One more day on some fantastic deals from Parasound. Apparently only some dealers, but Brad is one of them.

He replied very promptly to all of my inquiries and was a pleasure to deal with.

Here is Richard Schram's reply to my question about the difference between the
A51 and A52:


"Well, the A 51 would definitely get you the grunt you want and remember it has almost 3x the class A operating range, 7.5w/ch vs. 2.75w/ch in the A 52. You’ll definitely hear the difference.

Down the road, the A 21 is the sonic match of the A 51, but slightly more refined because of its higher per channel current capacity and separation.

Timbre-wise they’re the same; it is just a matter of refinement. The A 21 is a nice step towards the sound of the JC 1s.

Our amps are all fully complementary with matched pairs of devices. Only the JC 2 is fully balanced from input to output. The P 7 is not fully balanced all the way through.."



What sold me was the increased Class A operating range. A little extra capacitance for dynamics won't hurt either.

I'm taking delivery tommorrow of a Marantz UD9004 Universal player--my first Blu-ray!!--So I am jazzed. With it and the A51 and my P7 I should be able to resist further temptation for quite some time....

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Just ordered an A51 from Brad (the OP). One more day on some fantastic deals from Parasound. Apparently only some dealers, but Brad is one of them.

He replied very promptly to all of my inquiries and was a pleasure to deal with.

Here is Richard Schram's reply to my question about the difference between the
A51 and A52:


"Well, the A 51 would definitely get you the grunt you want and remember it has almost 3x the class A operating range, 7.5w/ch vs. 2.75w/ch in the A 52. You'll definitely hear the difference.

Down the road, the A 21 is the sonic match of the A 51, but slightly more refined because of its higher per channel current capacity and separation.

Timbre-wise they're the same; it is just a matter of refinement. The A 21 is a nice step towards the sound of the JC 1s.

Our amps are all fully complementary with matched pairs of devices. Only the JC 2 is fully balanced from input to output. The P 7 is not fully balanced all the way through.."



What sold me was the increased Class A operating range. A little extra capacitance for dynamics won't hurt either.

I'm taking delivery tommorrow of a Marantz UD9004 Universal player--my first Blu-ray!!--So I am jazzed. With it and the A51 and my P7 I should be able to resist further temptation for quite some time....

Glad i was able to help you out!
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My P7 had been working great. Then I got a hum in the system, and noticed the volume control knob wasn't working. Managed to get rid of the hum, but the VC is still not working. Even when @ 0, the volume is at max.

Right now I'm using it just on stereo mode, so the Theater bypass is not used and the setup menu the bypass is set to "no".

Its the same either using the phono or dvd inputs. Any ideas?
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Hi Guys, first post here, but let me say i have gleemed plenty of info and inspiration from this forum, AVS was a big help when i did my theater room last year. Now im planning an upgrade, and have a question,
Rack placement for an A51?
going into a middle atlantic rack (slim 5) will be paired with an A23 and an onkyo 905 used as a preamp. I have never had any heat probs with the A23, but the onkyo runs really hot, and the A51 gets a little toasty after a few hours. So should i be placing the A51 at the top of the rack, closer to the fans, but it will stick out of the rear of the rack and block fan access to the rest of the components? Thanx for any insights
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My P7 had been working great. Then I got a hum in the system, and noticed the volume control knob wasn't working. Managed to get rid of the hum, but the VC is still not working. Even when @ 0, the volume is at max.

Right now I'm using it just on stereo mode, so the Theater bypass is not used and the setup menu the bypass is set to "no".

Its the same either using the phono or dvd inputs. Any ideas?


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Hi Guys, first post here, but let me say i have gleemed plenty of info and inspiration from this forum, AVS was a big help when i did my theater room last year. Now im planning an upgrade, and have a question,
Rack placement for an A51?
going into a middle atlantic rack (slim 5) will be paired with an A23 and an onkyo 905 used as a preamp. I have never had any heat probs with the A23, but the onkyo runs really hot, and the A51 gets a little toasty after a few hours. So should i be placing the A51 at the top of the rack, closer to the fans, but it will stick out of the rear of the rack and block fan access to the rest of the components? Thanx for any insights

How close to the fans really doesn't make a difference, what's important is air flow. You have to make sure cool air is being drawn in from the bottom and the fans are exhausting the warm on top. A big mistake is leaving the back of a rack open, you're not getting any airflow over your equipment that way, you might as well not even have fans. Also leave plenty of space between the amps and the AVR, at least 1U space.
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Why should the back be closed? Makes no sense.

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I think the poster assumes fans that suck air upwards through a vertical stack. Wouldn't be effective with an open back.

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Guys need a little help here. What do you guys think of these two amps 5125 and 5250? i am going to be using an onkyo tx nr 1007 as my pre amp. Polk audio rti a9's as fronts, polk audio csi a6 as center, and polk surrounds. I was planning on using the 5 channel amp to bi amp my font speakers and the 5 channel to power my center. I was going to use the AVR to power my surrounds. What do you think?
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Hello

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I bought an Onkyo PRSC885 preamp about a year ago and paired it with a Shebourn 5/1500 A( 200x5) amp
It sounds incredible for home theater..however it lacks in good 2 channel analog stereo for music..in fact the Chiro C500/5.1 preamp combo I had before was better than the Onkyo for stereo

Anyway..I was traveling on business, out of state, and found a Parasound 7100 preamp, a dealer demo unit with the box and all the accessories for $399 at an authorized dealer as a close out

Anyway I bought it..I have yet to power it up. I have a Harman Kardon stereo( PA2400) amp with 170 w/channel

first of all...was the $399 a good deal?..next..how should I expect this Parasound unit to sound in 2 channel analog audio?

The salesman told me.."its not a Krell...but it will sound really good"

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..how should I expect this Parasound unit to sound in 2 channel analog audio?
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Dunno...Why don't you tell us?

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Dunno...Why don't you tell us?

I guess I assumed that in the Parasound forum there might be some people that own the piece and can actually offer some feedback




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Didn't mean any offense, dude, but since you actually bought the unit, and I don't happen to be familiar with it, I just thought you might like to share....

Since you now are a Parasound owner and all....

And welcome to the thread.

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Hello

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I bought an Onkyo PRSC885 preamp about a year ago and paired it with a Shebourn 5/1500 A( 200x5) amp
It sounds incredible for home theater..however it lacks in good 2 channel analog stereo for music..in fact the Chiro C500/5.1 preamp combo I had before was better than the Onkyo for stereo

The Onkyo sounds great for HT, but is HORRIBLE for anything else.
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The Onkyo sounds great for HT, but is HORRIBLE for anything else.

The Onkyo PRSC885 preamp does shine in HT...and actually does a credible job of digital music in a surround domain...but for two channel CD listening...not its strong point

However a credible source told me to get the best of both worlds I would need to look at something like an Anthem Statement
That unit..while I am sure is incredible is out of my price range

so anyway.......any owners of the Parasound 7100 care to tell me what it sounds like?




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The Onkyo PRSC885 preamp does shine in HT...and actually does a credible job of digital music in a surround domain...but for two channel CD listening...not its strong point

However a credible source told me to get the best of both worlds I would need to look at something like an Anthem Statement
That unit..while I am sure is incredible is out of my price range

so anyway.......any owners of the Parasound 7100 care to tell me what it sounds like?




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The Anthems are very good. I wouldn't say they're better than Parasound. If the 7100 is anything like my P7 preamp, its a very good unit.
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The Onkyo PRSC885 preamp does shine in HT...and actually does a credible job of digital music in a surround domain...but for two channel CD listening...not its strong point

However a credible source told me to get the best of both worlds I would need to look at something like an Anthem Statement
That unit..while I am sure is incredible is out of my price range

so anyway.......any owners of the Parasound 7100 care to tell me what it sounds like?
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Warren,

Your credible source left out one option and that is a 2CH preamp with HT Bypass. I have had a number of preamps with HT Bypass in my system and presently have a Parasound 2100. With the 2100 and the Onkyo 886 I get the best of both worlds at a fraction of the cost of the Anthem D2v/50v. I find with the 2100 I get excellent 2 CH sound quality and also have the 886 for excellent HT performance. As far as the 7100 I have no experience with it so I could not comment on its SQ.

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so anyway.......any owners of the Parasound 7100 care to tell me what it sounds like?




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Warren, I have the 7100 and I can tell you it was a big improvement over HK 7000 when I made the switch, and the 7000 was no slouch. My only issue with the 7100 is that there is no HDMI but I manage to work around it.
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The Anthems are very good. I wouldn't say they're better than Parasound. If the 7100 is anything like my P7 preamp, its a very good unit.

thats quite a statement...as the anthem is about $ 7500 and is supposed to be one of the best there is



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thats quite a statement...as the anthem is about $ 7500 and is supposed to be one of the best there is



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I've auditioned Totem speakers on over a dozen different systems, even Anthem but I still think the Parasound Halo gear sounded much better than the Anthem gear. How much a product costs isn't everything, if you read some of the Halo you reviews you will see a few reviewers say that Halo is under-priced.
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I've auditioned Totem speakers on over a dozen different systems, even Anthem but I still think the Parasound Halo gear sounded much better than the Anthem gear. How much a product costs isn't everything, if you read some of the Halo you reviews you will see a few reviewers say that Halo is under-priced.

And Anthem is considered over-rated by some, especially for music.

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thats quite a statement...as the anthem is about $ 7500 and is supposed to be one of the best there is
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The Anthem D2v is an excellent prepro without a doubt. I had a AVM30 and found the 2 CH SQ to be very good. The D2v might be one of the best prepros out there but it isn't the end all for 2CH music SQ. If you want to spend the cash on the D2v thats fine. But I think you can do better (cost wise) if you read up on the many options available when combining a good prepro such as your 885 with a 2CH preamp with HT Bypass.

By the way have you tried listening to the 7100 yet? If so what are your thoughts on the SQ versus the 885?

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I've auditioned Totem speakers on over a dozen different systems, even Anthem but I still think the Parasound Halo gear sounded much better than the Anthem gear. How much a product costs isn't everything, if you read some of the Halo you reviews you will see a few reviewers say that Halo is under-priced.

But the Halo doesn't have the newest codecs....so that is hard to compare
I understand price isn't everything...especially when some products don't really actually sell for anywhere near their retail prices...higher end Onkyo and Pioneer Elite products come to mind

Again..I have never heard the Anthem statement...and I know there is a Denon that is highly regarded that is nearly as much as the Anthem is price wise
Everything I have read about the Anthem is that it does everything well..as it should for $7500..I guess
Then of course there is the Krell etc that are another planet in regard to price


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And Anthem is considered over-rated by some, especially for music.

I can honestly say I have never heard that
In fact if I was in the market for a $7500 it would likely be at the top of my shopping list based on the reviews comparing it to pieces that even cost much more that it does
BUT...while I like my current set up and everything is THX Ultra rated ...except for the Sherbourne amp which I am sure would pass the standard
I don't have the amp or the speaker system that I would install a $7500 pre amp into
In my mind that's whole another level of amps and speakers that what I have...unless ofcouse I found one for say $2000 as a fire sale
Yea right..lol

and remember I paid $399 for this Parasound 7100 and $589 for the Onkyo Prsc 885
The Onkyo..even at it full retail of $1599 was one heck of a piece for that price. I haven't heard anything for more than than twice that retail that sounds better for HT
Hopefully I will be as impressed with the Parasound 7100...for $399 though..I am sure it will be just fine


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But the Halo doesn't have the newest codecs....so that is hard to compare

Do you mean the 7100 which is the Classic line. If you have a Bluray player that has a 5.1/7.1 output then you can enjoy HBR audio with the 7100.

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I understand price isn't everything...especially when some products don't really actually sell for anywhere near their retail prices...higher end Onkyo and Pioneer Elite products come to mind

Very true.

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Again..I have never heard the Anthem statement...and I know there is a Denon that is highly regarded that is nearly as much as the Anthem is price wise Everything I have read about the Anthem is that it does everything well..as it should for $7500..I guess
Then of course there is the Krell etc that are another planet in regard to price

At the level of prepros above there is a point you reach where the cost to performance ratio is somewhat debatable IMO.

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The Anthem D2v is an excellent prepro without a doubt. I had a AVM30 and found the 2 CH SQ to be very good. The D2v might be one of the best prepros out there but it isn't the end all for 2CH music SQ. If you want to spend the cash on the D2v thats fine. But I think you can do better (cost wise) if you read up on the many options available when combining a good prepro such as your 885 with a 2CH preamp with HT Bypass.

By the way have you tried listening to the 7100 yet? If so what are your thoughts on the SQ versus the 885?

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The 7100 is still in the box ...I am still on a business trip and won't be home until Friday
I won't be spending the $7500 for the Anthem statement...in my mind that would mean another amp and speakers to compliment that level of component.
Not going to happen
I will try the HT bypass...although my Atlantic Technology 350THX system speakers are much like the Onkyo preamp..great for HT..no so much for 2 channel stereo


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The 7100 is still in the box ...I am still on a business trip and won't be home until Friday
I won't be spending the $7500 for the Anthem statement...in my mind that would mean another amp and speakers to compliment that level of component.
Not going to happen
I will try the HT bypass...although my Atlantic Technology 350THX system speakers are much like the Onkyo preamp..great for HT..no so much for 2 channel stereo


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Ahhh now I get it. You might be surprised in that you might prefer the 7100 over the 885. But you will be giving up Audyssey and the video processing of the 885 if your are in fact using them. I would give the 7100 a good demo before considering a 2CH preamp with HT Bypass.

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