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post #2521 of 3801 Old 09-15-2013, 09:58 PM
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I had to replace a Lovan with something deeper and whilst at it giving my A21 the 6" above it to keep her cool ( my gosh she's such a hottie I'm almost blushing biggrin.gif) I went with VTI and filled the poles with a mix of stainless steel bb's and sand. It's a flexible design and has different cap and shelf options. The bottom can be purchased as an amp stand as well.

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Thanks. It's beautiful. I wish I was a little handier and could build my own. I'm not sure I want it out in the open though. I know it would be good for the amp - but I watch a lot of movies with the lights out. All the displays on my equipment drive me batty. I do notice we have the same brand plasma. Good taste!
Your welcome smile.gif I know what you mean about the lights I've got a ton of blue ones lol but everything's to the right of my display 3 or 4 ' or so . I have gotten use to it though . My A21 that's on the floor amp stand is normally off except for my 2 ch setup so then the lights are ok . Yes sir great minds think a like,Kuros FTW biggrin.gif
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I had to replace a Lovan with something deeper and whilst at it giving my A21 the 6" above it to keep her cool ( my gosh she's such a hottie I'm almost blushing biggrin.gif) I went with VTI and filled the poles with a mix of stainless steel bb's and sand. It's a flexible design and has different cap and shelf options. The bottom can be purchased as an amp stand as well.

That's looks sweet man ! That's right I forgot I'm not the only one thats in love with my Halos biggrin.gif Im pretty fond of her A52 sister to but don't tell her tongue.gifbiggrin.gif
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Audiofan, what is that? If I do go with an open design, that looks interesting.

Anybody here keeping your parasound amp in an enclosed space? Now, I'm getting worried. The dealer (who I trust) said that it didn't run particularly hot - but I'm not getting that sense from you guys.
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^^My A21 doesn't get to warm because its in the open on the floor amp stand but my A52 gets almost hot in the Salmander audio rack even with the back off of the rack and screen doors . But I don't have a lot of space on top but you can still put your hand on top of it so its not to hot to touch . image.jpg 1718k .jpg file
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I had to replace a Lovan with something deeper and whilst at it giving my A21 the 6" above it to keep her cool ( my gosh she's such a hottie I'm almost blushing biggrin.gif) I went with VTI and filled the poles with a mix of stainless steel bb's and sand. It's a flexible design and has different cap and shelf options. The bottom can be purchased as an amp stand as well.


Can you please tell me what model of VTI this is?
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Can you please tell me what model of VTI this is?

Here's the link where I purchased it from configure how you like and I see they have a new glass shelf option , and as for the amp running hot, it gets warm to the touch but its not hot hot , just give it good ventilation and you should be fine wink.gif

http://www.wayfair.com/VTI-BL-Series-Modular-Rack-BL304-BL404-VI1005.html

I updated the link,if you decide to get one, be sure not to get the one with only 3 poles get the one with 4 poles the BL404.
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Audiofan, what is that? If I do go with an open design, that looks interesting.

Anybody here keeping your parasound amp in an enclosed space? Now, I'm getting worried. The dealer (who I trust) said that it didn't run particularly hot - but I'm not getting that sense from you guys.

I'm lucky enough to have a closet right behind my TV/stereo. So I put my A52 there. It does get warm so I put in some fans to keep the air moving when the door's closed. If I run it all day the closet goes from around 70 to 78 and stabilizes there.
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Here is probably one of the weirder questions ever posted on an amp owners' thread. Where do you guys put your amplifiers? I was given an excellent offer on a demo model A52. I really want to get it but it is several inches deeper than any of my other components. I was planning on buying some kind of media storage unit to put under my television, but I have only found one deep enough to store the Parasound amp - and that unit is over $2000. (too much for me) I have spent hours scouring the web and visiting stores. It finally occurred to me to ask people who own it how they deal with the size. By the way, I live in a tiny Manhattan apartment. Thank you in advance for any help for this newb to the world of separates.

I am using the VTI BLG-404 rack for my A51. Fits great (just remove the rear cable wiring template).
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VTI makes a 13" add-on shelf for its AGR 404 audio stand which is available from Stands and Mounts. http://www.standsandmounts.com/vtiadd-onshelfforagr404standblackorsilverpoles.aspx

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VTI makes a 13" add-on shelf for its AGR 404 audio stand which is available from Stands and Mounts. http://www.standsandmounts.com/vtiadd-onshelfforagr404standblackorsilverpoles.aspx

That's exactly my setup.
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Here is probably one of the weirder questions ever posted on an amp owners' thread. Where do you guys put your amplifiers? I was given an excellent offer on a demo model A52. I really want to get it but it is several inches deeper than any of my other components. I was planning on buying some kind of media storage unit to put under my television, but I have only found one deep enough to store the Parasound amp - and that unit is over $2000. (too much for me) I have spent hours scouring the web and visiting stores. It finally occurred to me to ask people who own it how they deal with the size. By the way, I live in a tiny Manhattan apartment. Thank you in advance for any help for this newb to the world of separates.

 

I have a Manhattan apartment, as you do, and I keep my amp(s) behind my speakers.


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I have a Manhattan apartment, as you do, and I keep my amp(s) behind my speakers.
And hopefully not sitting on carpet. lol
I've got my 2205A sitting on top of two stacked subs behind a column that is between two archways.

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And hopefully not sitting on carpet. lol
I've got my 2205A sitting on top of two stacked subs behind a column that is between two archways.
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Speakers, yes.

Amps, no.

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I have a Manhattan apartment, as you do, and I keep my amp(s) behind my speakers.

Good solution in general - but I have Dali on wall Mentors. So sadly, no amp stacking for me.

Hey all, I appreciate your help. I'm going to start a thread to get answers from owners of other amps. I'm warning you so you can skip it. I know it's irritating
to see the same people asking the same questions all over the form.

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^^ No worries that's what were here for is to help each other and share our passion for this hobby smile.gif
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Other ways that I've placed big, hot running amps: 15 years ago I had a large "pier" style AV furniture setup and the amp lived on top of one of the piers - that is my 80+ lb Adcom 7000 five channel amp on top of the left pier - no cooling issues there.


My current house has a built-in cabinet for the AV equipment. It has its problems (like not being able to easily get to the back of the equipment) but it is 24" deep and every amp I've tried easily fits depth wise. I just open the doors for cooling as they are ceiling height and well above everyone's heads. That is my modestly heavy Bryston 4B on the right and I still need to move my 100+lb Outlaw 7700 (ATI 2007) to the other side - I'm going to need some help for that one!

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Good solution in general - but I have Dali on wall Mentors. So sadly, no amp stacking for me.

Hey all, I appreciate your help. I'm going to start a thread to get answers from owners of other amps. I'm warning you so you can skip it. I know it's irritating
to see the same people asking the same questions all over the form.

Thanks all!

I find that my HK AVR runs hotter than my HCA2205A. But as the 2205A is bigger than my 3 shelf stand, and would only fit on the top shelf, is why I placed it on top of the subs. Then the top shelf is used for the P7, Denon DVD, Marantz TT. None of which gets hot, and the AVR is on the bottom, where it is cooler.

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'Nother planning question here.

Is it better acoustically to monoblock the center, say with a bridged A21, or to put the center on the A52 and to use the A21 on the L/R?

Just trying to understand my options for when I move from a 5.1 with phantom center and one back channel to a 6.1 or 7.1. I'd need more channels of amplication in that case and just want it to be cost-effective while not degrading the quality of the sound.
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'Nother planning question here.

Is it better acoustically to monoblock the center, say with a bridged A21, or to put the center on the A52 and to use the A21 on the L/R?

Just trying to understand my options for when I move from a 5.1 with phantom center and one back channel to a 6.1 or 7.1. I'd need more channels of amplication in that case and just want it to be cost-effective while not degrading the quality of the sound.
Any combo of Parasound amps will be good to go. Unless, you had a really power hungry center, there is no reason to have a monoblock amp. Its all good; A31 for the LCRs, A21 for the mains~A51 for the center/surrounds, A51 for all 5 channels.

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Has anyone tried an A23 in mono with a 6 ohm speaker?

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Has anyone tried an A23 in mono with a 6 ohm speaker?

Curious as to what's the 6 ohm speaker? I'm using my A52 to drive some VA Haydns rated at 4Ohms. It's doing beautifully.
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I might try to use my A23s as mono blocks to run "1 each" 6ohm speaker. Then sell them off for an A21. I just don't want to kill the amp or have it go into protection mode the second I try it.

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I might try to use my A23s as mono blocks to run "1 each" 6ohm speaker. Then sell them off for an A21. I just don't want to kill the amp or have it go into protection mode the second I try it.

I don't think it will. I asked Parasound via email about Magneplanars because they can go down to 2Ohms. Richard answered (of course) that as long as it was adequately ventilated the A52 shouldn't have any problems.

You can send me your A23s when you're done with them wink.gif
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I might try to use my A23s as mono blocks to run "1 each" 6ohm speaker. Then sell them off for an A21. I just don't want to kill the amp or have it go into protection mode the second I try it.

The amp will not go into protection mode the second you try it. Keep the volume reasonable. The most common reason for listing 8 ohms in bridge mode is the heatsinks are often insufficient to cool the amp for a speaker that averages a lower impedance. Dips are okay, here the nominal rating is important. This likely only applies when driving t he speaker at a decent volume where the amp is going to generate quite a bit of heat.
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Thank you! I was giving a thought to try the Krell Foundation again. It turns out the video blooming and poor video is still present with this model. Will stay with my Marantz 8801 and move fully to 11.1.

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Hi,
My current set up includes a P7/a21 combo (m1 dac and Kef r300).
I got a good deal with a Jc2, but it is not the Bp version.
First I would like to know if the improov Sq will be huge with the Jc2.
Regarding not be Bp version, the Dealer instruct me that i could fix a gain in a regular input....
Any help will be wellcome.
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Here's the link where I purchased it from configure how you like and I see they have a new glass shelf option , and as for the amp running hot, it gets warm to the touch but its not hot hot , just give it good ventilation and you should be fine wink.gif

http://www.wayfair.com/VTI-BL-Series-Modular-Rack-BL304-BL404-VI1005.html

I updated the link,if you decide to get one, be sure not to get the one with only 3 poles get the one with 4 poles the BL404.

Correct. Three legs is horrible design for cables at back.

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Thanks for the info!
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