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Old 03-26-2009, 08:29 PM - Thread Starter
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Hi,
I'm about to go through a major overhaul of my HT. Here's what's staying:

Magnepan 1.6QR, MG sides and center
Paradigm Reference Servo 15 sub
Sunfire Cinema Grand amp
DirecTV HDR

I could consider moving the amp at some point but don't have any pressing reason.

What's going:
Theta CasaNova (still sounds great but it's not getting any younger).

What will be coming in:
Pioneer Elite 151FD plasma (assuming inventory doesn't go before I buy)

What I need advice on:
Surround PrePro
Blu-ray player

I want:
1. The processor to support the latest audio formats.
2. Video scaling (including on HDMI if necessary) to improve Sat picture
3. Decent sound quality (will be used for audio as well as HT, 70/30 HT)
4. Balanced outputs

My upper limit on the processor is probably around 4k. Based on some initial reading, I was looking at / leaning towards the Marantz 8003 but the fact that it does scale HDMI probably locks it out. I will try to listen to multiple boxes in home before deciding but I'm trying to see if I can get to a short list to audition.

How do items like the Integra DHC 9.9, B&K Ref 70, etc fit into this range and what would their limitations be? Any other suggestions?

Is it safe to assume that if the video processing on the processor is good the disc player doesn't have to be as good? I get a discount on Panasonic items from work so was thinking of going with one of their upcoming players.

Thanks,
Jim
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I'll pass on recommending a pre-pro (I like Anthem but haven't kept up on it's competition lately).

But the player is a NO BRAINER. Just go to the Blu-ray forum and read about the Oppo 83. Sounds like it will be released within a couple of weeks.

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The new Oppo player may be great, but you don't need Blu-ray, according to Oppo.

I quote -

"The up-converted picture quality bridges the visual gap from your current DVD library to Blu-ray discs'

So, because their players magically bridge the gap, according to them, I see no reason to ever buy Blu-ray discs!

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Old 03-26-2009, 10:04 PM
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The new Oppo player may be great, but you don't need Blu-ray, according to Oppo.

I quote -

"The up-converted picture quality bridges the visual gap from your current DVD library to Blu-ray discs'

So, because their players magically bridge the gap, according to them, I see no reason to ever buy Blu-ray discs!

I know you're joking, but "bridging" does not mean that it matches the quality.

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I know you're joking, but "bridging" does not mean that it matches the quality.

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Depends on your definition of bridging, doesn't it ?

"But this one goes up to 11"
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Old 03-26-2009, 10:27 PM
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Depends on your definition of bridging, doesn't it ?

Well I was referring to the normal one.

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Go to the Onkyo website. They are selling refurbished 885's (same as Integra 9.8) for under $600 with a 1 year warranty. It meets all of your requirments and it may be the steal in audio at the moment (with the potential to be chased by the new Oppo Bluray machine).

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Bridge ( from dictionary.com)
Closest definition to Oppo's use was -

"a connecting, transitional, or intermediate route or phase between two adjacent elements, activities, conditions, or the like: Working at the hospital was a bridge between medical school and private practice. "

It does not tell me anything, from how I read that definition.

My reading of Oppos use, is that it brings DVDs closer to Blu-ray movies. I don't believe it, because creating pixels via interpolation does not increase the detail of a DVD movie at all. And 1080p TVs will all convert 480i to 1080p, but they can't add any detail to the DVD either.

"But this one goes up to 11"
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It's more of a concern to me at the moment than the player.
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+1 on the Onkyo 885 from ShopOnkyo. Great performer on the cheap.
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+1 on the Onkyo 885 from ShopOnkyo. Great performer on the cheap.

+2 on the Onkyo or depending on how long you have to wait, the UMC-1 from Emotiva or wait even longer for the XMC-1.
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I have both the Anthem D2v and the Oppo BDP-83 and nothing tops it. I was going to forget blu-ray but the video and sound are to good. I just use netflix and have a new blu-ray or 2 every other day
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My vote goes to the Anthem at that price point.
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My upper limit on the processor is probably around 4k.

How do items like the Integra DHC 9.9, B&K Ref 70, etc fit into this range and what would their limitations be? Any other suggestions?

For that I would look at the integra/onkyo, you can check some dealers to see if they have a deal going on for the denon processor, or you can wait on the new NAD processors.
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