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post #211 of 254 Old 10-29-2010, 01:19 AM
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I am having all the same issues as many others. Did a reset and now the 606 receiver's set up menu does not show up on the tv screen, you can see it shows up on the receivers display but not the tv. Any ideas or info on how to fix would be greatly appreciated. I just faxed onkyo a copy of my receipt of purchase, just passed the 2 yr mark, so we'll see if they stand by their product.
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Is your receiver out of warranty?
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Onkyo may ask if you want to do a swap for a new receiver for $250.00 and Onkyo is no longer doing extended warranties on your receiver.
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I have posted how I fixed this in another thread. I will post the link as soon as the rules for posting links kicks in.
Here's the link: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post19406942
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I haven't seen mention of the 605, but I have an very similar problem with "No Signal" on my new LG 50PK750 from my Onkyo 605 (part of the HT-908 HTIB) with my HTPC.

I've had my Panasonic 50" < 605 < HTPC working with little problem. It has always taken a long time (several seconds) for the HDMI handshake process when the audio is over HDMI. It works though. Today I swapped out the Panasonic 50" for the LG 50" and all I see is "No Signal". THe LG doesn't seem to be as patient as the Panasonic and gives up before the process is complete.

Here's what works:
HTPC > LG
HTPC > 605 > Panasonic
Comcast STB > 605 > Panasonic
Comcast STB > 605 > LG

Here's what doesn't:
HTPC > 605 > LG

I was thinking since it works with the Panasonic, that I'd send back the LG and get a Panasonic. Now reading this I am wondering if I should try a different receiver. I really like the LG.

I am definitely not happy going HTPC (HDMI) > LG, HTPC (SPDIF) > 605. It took a lot of work to get DTS-MA working.

 

 

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THe LG doesn't seem to be as patient as the Panasonic and gives up before the process is complete.

I trust you've tried different combinations of power-on sequences. ( HTPC, then 605, then LG; LG then 605, then HTPC; etc )

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I've started having the same issue as well I think. It takes a while for the receiver to recognize the ps3 is on and send the signal to the tv. I thought I had cured it or found the magic formula multiple times, switching on and off components in certain orders, etc. but it seems to just be getting worse. At first I had assumed it was my tv, I still have an old Westinghouse 42w2 TV that's never been the best with handshake issues, but then I realized I wasn't getting audio either (It's hard to tell with the ps3 because the only sound is the clicking of the menu switching at the main screen).

So it looks like this is only going to get worse, unless I get it repaired. If it's just replacing the capacitors as some have done in this thread, how much is a typical repair? I've replaced and built enough computers to be comfortable with simple parts switching, but I've never soldered something myself so the DIY repair I've seen seems like it might be beyond my limited expertise.

It looks like the other alternative is a new receiver, although I'll probably wait if that's the case. I can put up with waiting a little longer on the ps3, but if the problem moves over to the cable box my wife isn't going to put up with it. I was happy with the 606 until this point, but I'd be hesitant to get another onkyo (like the 608) after this. Probably look at the Pioneer VSX1020 or the Denon 1611 since they seem in the same price range.
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I trust you've tried different combinations of power-on sequences. ( HTPC, then 605, then LG; LG then 605, then HTPC; etc )

-CZ

Oh, definitely. Unplug, replug, power on, power off in all different combinations -- none of which is necessary when the Panasonic 50" is the monitor. It really seems to be the Onkyo takes too long to connect via HDMI with the HTPC and the LG gives up and the chain is broken. The Panasonic doesn't seem to care. The LG doesn't give up on the cable box for some reason - only the HTPC. It's all very strange. Turn off the LG and suddenly the Onkyo connects. Turn it back on -- "No Signal".

I am going to pick up a Yamaha receiver tomorrow and give that a try between the LG and the HTPC. If that still doesn't work the LG is going back where it came from (and so is the Yamaha) and I'll just get another Panasonic or forget the whole thing. But, man, the PQ on the LG blows away my 3-yr old Panasonic which is also very good.

 

 

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The LG doesn't give up on the cable box for some reason - only the HTPC. It's all very strange. Turn off the LG and suddenly the Onkyo connects. Turn it back on -- "No Signal".

FWIW you might want to run Entech's Monitor Asset Manager (MonInfo.exe) on your HTPC and compare the EDID before and after powering on the LG (using the refresh function). If there is a change (ie video related) you can search AVS for 'custom EDID' or 'EDID override', required for certain hardware compatability issues. However, if it boils down to what you keep saying is an excessively drawn out handshake, then the above is moot. But having a forced profile for the LG/ONKYO pairing already in the HTPC might just improve that speed (?) It's a PITA but if it gets your current gear running....Also, you have the latest GPU drivers?
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Had my 606 repaired for the first time last month and now the HDMI out is randomly dropping out again. Kinda hard to play Need For Speed when the screen blanks out a half dozen times for 4-5 seconds in a race. It's also dropping out on input from DVR and Blu-Ray. Don't get the drop outs when HDMI is routed directly to the TV. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh. Fortunately, I have a local service center I can drop it off at... but it's still a pain in the rear.
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It's now been 2 months since I hooked my receiver up, after the last (3rd) repair. There have been no sound or video drop-outs at all. I guess that replacing the HDMI board was/is the solution to the problems with the 606/667 receiver.

Hope that all who experience this problem can get the same results and can once again fully enjoy their receiver.

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My 606 is being be repaired by an onkyo authorized repair shop in CA. It was about 1 month and a few days past the factory 2 yr warranty. Onkyo still opted to do a 1 time complimentary fix. dropped off the reciever on oct 29th. The repair shop said it would take about 60 days for it to be done due to the high volume of recievers needing to be repaired in front of mine.
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I have read all the posts about the Onkyo receiver problems and see that they range from all units. We purchased ours about 3 years ago but it stopped receiving a cable signal on the receiver in July and our HDMI did not work on our Plasma either. We had the cable company come out and they replaced our cable box three times thinking it was their unit but to no avail. I finally called HHGregg where I had purchased it and had to have the HDMI board on our 50" Panasonic Plasma replaced. I guess I consider myself lucky that I paid for a extended warranty... three months later I finally have the Hdmi board replaced on the Plasma. The only thing is that I didn't buy one for the receiver!

The HDMI ports are burnt out according to the TEch who took it in to look at when waiting on my part for the TV. Let me tell you that the parts for any electronics are not meant to last evidently. There was a back order on the HDMI boards and supposely Panasonic will not let the service provider track the part. I waited 9 days shy of the 90 day replacement of the Plasma but I still have the same problem with the receiver of the HDMI ports not working!

Why hasn't the problems of these receivers been rectified by Onkyo! We have enjoyed our unit up until July of this year but paying almost a thousand dollars for it and it not lasting three years is infuriating! It should of been recalled! Our unit was always really hot too. We had a box fan blowing on it while we watched movies to keep it cool but it would still be quite hot. I am calling Onkyo tomorrow to see what if anything they will do. Will let you know.

By the way, the tech said he would reoair the receiver for $263.00. I turned it down and said I would rather put that money towards a new one then to fix this one. I found a refurbished on online for guess what? $263.00 Imagine that...the same amount he wanted to repair mine for. Sounds like he was just going to purchase a refurb one and say he fixed it.

Sorry for the long post but had to get it out of my system. Stop the insanity...
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Hey all, I went to load up my PS3 the other day and it turned on but my receiver keep putting on screen "no signal". I turned it off and tried again,, same thing. So I unplugged the HDMI cable from it and plugged it back in and that fixed it...for the day.
It seems that will fix it for roughly 24 hours b/c the next day and for the last couple of days it keeps repeating the problem and I have to unhook/hook it up.
Its not the cable as ive tried others, same thing. So I guess its the PS3 but anyone have this problem?

I have a PS3 Slim and its connected to a Onkyo 606. So I dont know why this started happening, I havent touched a thing and its been setup the same way for roughly 7 months now.
All of a sudden I went to power on the ps3 and it was saying on screen "no signal". But if I unplugg it the screen says check connection, so I know the receiver is working. Then by plugging the HDMI cable back into the ps3 it will work.
So what give? the fix is to unplug and replug after using it for 7 months without a problem? What could have happened or changed? I have used different HDMI cables on different HDMI connections on the receiver but give it a day or two after being used and the same problem comes back.
I also have a 360 hooked up that is not having any of these problems, I switched the cables around on the ps3 but again only te ps3 had the problem, not the 360. But im worried after reading everyone here,,, this is the start of things to come :*(
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Another 606 with hdmi problems just a few months past the warranty. We have no service centers in my area. This sounds like a widespread problem and they should cover all costs and issue a apology to customers. At first no setup screen. Then audio drop outs from htpc. Now I usually get "no signal" from my ps3 and other devices.

I guess it will have to be used as a spare receiver with optical. What are the chances I would get a "complimentary" fix? I refuse to pay anymore to swap for a new receiver. Will definitely be going with another brand unless onkyo helps me.
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I don't know if this is the same problem as everyone else but I cannot get a blu ray player HDMI connection. I can take the HDMI cable from my cable box, connect it to the blu ray player (still connected to Cable/Sat which works on cable) and it gives me "no signal". After a couple of players and different cables, it all comes down to the combination of blu ray and the receiver. All players worked fine connected directly to the TV. All other connections to the receiver via HDMI (computer, cable box) work fine in any HDMI connection.

It was odd tonight, I just picked up a new sony bd player and on the first connection, it flashed on the screen, a few vertical lines showed up and it blanked out. Never to connect again after multiple attempts and multiple startup configurations.

Its taking all I have to not yank the thing out and throw it outside. I'm past frustration. I keep thinking I'll find some perfect combination but it isn't happening. Any reason it would only be the DVD connection??
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Had my 606 repaired for the first time last month and now the HDMI out is randomly dropping out again. Kinda hard to play Need For Speed when the screen blanks out a half dozen times for 4-5 seconds in a race. It's also dropping out on input from DVR and Blu-Ray. Don't get the drop outs when HDMI is routed directly to the TV. Ugh. Ugh. Ugh. Fortunately, I have a local service center I can drop it off at... but it's still a pain in the rear.

Got it back (again) from the local service center after they had it for 3 weeks. They said that they couldn't replicate the symptoms on their bench.

Less than 30 minutes after hooking everything back up at home, I'm getting frequent dropouts on the CBL/SAT input. DirecTV is unwatchable. Fewer dropouts on the Panasonic DVD player and XBOX but still getting them. I have switched out/rotated all of the cables with no improvement. I had all sources wired directly to the TV for the 3 weeks that the shop had the receiver and had no dropouts during that time.

Local shop said to call Onkyo and send it to DTR since they couldn't replicate locally. What a pain in the a$$.

This will be the last Onkyo product that I ever own.
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Hey all,

For those with replaced HDMI boards on their 606 and everything is working OK - can you take a hi-res picture of the HDMI board? I'm looking for replacement parts on eBay and want to know what a properly working HDMI board looks like (chips used, etc).

Thanks!

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Well it has been 6 months since the Denver service center (DTR) sent my receiver back after replacing the HDMI board, some caps & resisters. Still running strong, no issues at all. The fan I installed has kept the receiver in the slightly warm area.

I hope that all who suffer this challenge get as good of results, of course it took three times of shipping it back & 4 months waiting, but it's ok now.

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Hi Rick,
Funny, AVS emailed me about your post, but I can't find mine on this thread...:-/

Anyway, I've had my replacement HDMI board in for about 6 months also. The warranty service here in Seattle (Kings) was excellent...quick turn around even though they had to get the new board from Onkyo.

But as for HDMI / 606 performance...? I still cannot TURN OFF my 606, or it will take 15 MINUTES to sync to the selected HDMI port. I have to leave the 606 powered up 24/7 if I want to sit down and watch a DVD or Sat/cable tv right away.

I drive a 35th anniversary Camaro (2002). It's great, no factory recalls. After 35 years of production Chevy got it down. SO there's hope for Onkyo.

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I passed on an awesome deal for a TX-SR608 this past weekend. Never going that route again..

SEGA! was seriously injured, but the soul still BURNS!

Fixed my ONKYO HTS-6100\HTR667:

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Hi Rick,
Funny, AVS emailed me about your post, but I can't find mine on this thread...:-/

I drive a 35th anniversary Camaro (2002). It's great, no factory recalls. After 35 years of production Chevy got it down. SO there's hope for Onkyo.

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I'm from Portland. What color is your Camero (silver?) I may have seen it. I remember remarking about good looking Anniversary Edition out on 167/405 in the Renton area last summer on my way to Bellevue. I'll be in Olympia for the Frankie Valli concert on April 30th.
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hey all

i have a panny 58pz800u/onkyo 606 combo and initially thought it was a problem with the tv, which is why i just posted this in the dedicated tv thread:

hey all...used to post here a while ago for help in deciding on a new tv and went with the 58pz800u...forgot my password and email that i used to had to start a new account...

anyway the above post is worrying me because i came to post a similar problem that i've been having (it might even be the exact problem)...i have the 58pz800u/onkyo 606 combo as well...hdmi from the tv to the receiver, and hdmi from the receiver to my cable box, ps3 and xbox 360...

the problem started when one day i decided to turn on my tv, receiver and cable box to watch a program when the picture wouldn't show up...it eventually came on after 5 minutes or so, so i didn't mind that much, but then whenever i'd switch to playing with my ps3 or 360, it would take several minutes for the picture to show too...

i then tried just leaving the receiver on the whole time (switched to cable box), while turning everything else off...whenever i turned the tv and cable box on, the picture would appear instantly, but whenever i switched to ps3/360 it would be the same - it would appear after a few minutes...

now, whenever i switch it to the ps3/360, the picture won't show up at all...what can i do? am i right in assuming this is the receiver's problem? i'm really hoping so as i'm planning to sell the tv to a friend next year when i upgrade...if it's the receiver, would it have to be replaced?

this is driving me up the wall, so i'd appreciate any help...thanks!


then i stumbled on to this thread and now i know what the problem is

i don't even know if there's an onkyo repair centre here in toronto...would it be wiser to just bite the bullet and get a new receiver? i also plan on upgrading the tv next year sometime so maybe it would be worth it to upgrade the receiver as well....
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i then tried just leaving the receiver on the whole time

I NEVER turn my 606 off. If I do by mistake, it will take 20-30 min for my HDMIs to sync up (like a phase lock loop circuit that refuses to lock because the caps are the wrong value). I've had my HDMI board replaced once already under warranty.

My latest news: I finally replaced my Samsung BDP1600 (bluray) with a $49.95 refurb'd Sony BDPS270 (I refuse to pay top dollar for this stuff anymore). The Sony works GREAT!, and the 606 HDMI switches to the Sony much faster than it did the Samsung. (606 still has to stay on 24/7).

My conclusion: 2-3 yrs ago, the HDMI technology had not yet matured. Maybe it has now. But as long as I'm only getting +/-2yrs from my hardware, I'll buy the cheap stuff. My $50 Sony works great.


Rick, if you're still following this thread: Yes my Z28 is near silver (Pewter). But there is quite an active Camaro community still. There are a few of us around.
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Hope you enjoyed the concert. The sun's out finally, going to take the T-tops off and take my wife on a Sunday drive through the Skagit valley tulip fields.

btw: After I installed the Sony bluray, I went on the Onkyo site to get the Remote control code for Sony. Onkyo does not even list the 606 anymore. I guess it wants to pretend our model# never happened! hahaha

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Thread necromancer casts "arise!"

bought my 606 in Jan of 09 from amazon. started having the hdmi signal loss from my dvd player in march. didn't think anything of it, just bought a bluray player as a natural upgrade (why not!). The receiver STILL had issues locating a signal. I've swapped all of my hdmi cables, tried both players on other tv's with no issues.

fast forward to last week....the stupid 606 decides that now it can't find my xbox 360. the only way to get it to find the signal is to switch back and forth from one source to another. sometimes it takes up to 15-30 tries to get it to work. my wife is getting very unhappy, and you know you don't want an unhappy wife!

i've been researching all over about this and it seems that swapping the capacitors works about 80% of the time. I have no issue soldering it, but is it worth the time to do it, and how long do you think it will last?

also, i've heard that you can up the voltage on the cap's to 35v or even 50v and it's supposed to work better.... any ideas?

this is the first time that i've bought a receiver and the wife wasn't too happy about it to start with. this isn't helping my case!

thanks all!
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I wouldn't bother trying to fix it. After my HDMI died, all my video died shortly thereafter. My receiver won't output any video on HDMI, composite or component. I now use it as an Audio only receiver. I think the problems run deeper than an HDMI board.
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I disagree.

Deltaphi, if you're happy to solder, then get over to the DIY HDMI repair thread for the 576/606 and start reading.

I did the fix and I'd never soldered anything in my life. It didn't fix all my issues, but improved things (mine was working at 95% before I started anyhow)... and all for 1 hour's worth of effort.

It's worth a try. Go for it.

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I disagree.

Deltaphi, if you're happy to solder, then get over to the .... and start reading.

I did the fix and I'd never soldered anything in my life. It didn't fix all my issues, but improved things (mine was working at 95% before I started anyhow)... and all for 1 hour's worth of effort.

It's worth a try. Go for it.

thanks! I saw that thead last night and spent an hour going over every post. Soldering is no big deal to me, I have swapped all the 1206 SMD leds in my trucks dash to a different color and those little things were a B! this shouldn't be too hard. What i am worried about is doing it, and then things being worse. I mean, the receiver works perfectly for our digital cable which is what we use 95% of the time. it's just the blu-ray player that's being stupid.
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I bought my 606 back in late 2008. Had it in the shop once to replace capacitors. Now it's acting up again. I have the issue where like I'm watching DirecTV the tv/sound goes blank for a few seconds and then comes back on. This happens randomly but every 30 seconds to 1 minute. I've read all the posts on DIY and capacitors....but I had it with this Onkyo and will never buy from them again.

I have DirecTV and a PS3 connected via HDMI to my Samsung HDTV. I buy all my stuff from Amazon and have been looking for a replacement. As you can see I'm not a hard core user...oh I have a 5.1 speaker solution. I just want to watch DirecTV and Blu-Ray movies on my PS3.

Trying not to break the bank...looking for suggestions on a new receiver that's less than $300, better yet $200.

Amazon has some good reviews on 2 Sony products :

Sony STRDH520 7.1 Channel 3D AV Receiver (Black) -
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-STRDH520-...pr_product_top

Sony STR-DN1010 7.1-Channel A/V Blu-Ray Receiver [3D Compatible]
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...cm_cr_asin_lnk

Nice to haves :

Ipod support
wireless speaker capability

PM if needed...thanks for your input.
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I'd still, despite all the BS, buy another Onkyo personally. Best bang for your buck IMHO. I had the same problem and had mine repaired a while ago (see previous post in this thread). I haven't had a problem since, and I attribute that to rigging a fan on a hot/always on USB (off my 360 Slim) to sit on top of the unit and keep it cool 24/7/365. (I think the thread gets side tracked a bit and we discuss it with pictures if anyone is interested)

If in fact you will NOT ever buy Onkyo again and I completely understand your position, I would like to suggest Denon over Sony. I don't have the time to go into specific reasons but keep it on your radar as you research the new head unit.

ps.. don't skimp on the heart of your home theater system.. get the most expensive unit within your means and even consider bumping up the next higher model. It's always best to GROW into a product then out grow it rather quickly. This piece will used for MANY years.. might as well bite the bullet. The money you "over" spent will still be cheaper then having to replace the unit a few times in 10 years with $200 cheapo ones.

Mind you I haven't shopped for a receiver in years so the landscape may have changed but coming from 7 years in the industry of home stereo sales I expect this rule still applies.
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