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post #5191 of 5209 Old 04-22-2014, 01:07 PM
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New the the Forum/HT community!

 

I am the proud new owner of an AVR 590 and am loving it so far.

Just unboxed it last night and roughly setup the existing mediocre speakers I have, but what a difference a good receiver makes.

 

We just purchased a house of our own so its time to setup the mini man cave (upstairs) for now until I finish the basement.

I had a cheap samsung HTIB 5.1 for a while just to get off the ground and it was OK for a cheap starter.

I have some decent Sony 3 way towers hooked up in the front with the kit samsung center and surrounds which are capable

of maybe 15 watts before sounding like complete S%#*.  I can hardly turn the Denon up to -6db before the center bottoms out.

 

Just added a Polk PSW10 the other day and coming from a passive sub I am satisfied with its performance for now, but I can

see myself needing an upgrade soon with this receiver.  I have already ordered some new 12GA wire and banana jacks to rewire everything properly.

 

My next step (I think?) should be to get a set of matched front/center speakers to make everything come alive.  I will then probably move the Sony towers to the rear for the mean time.  Any good suggestions for a nice set of fronts to match with this setup?

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Is it too late to return the Polk? Entry level Polk subs have a pretty poor performance reputation and you can do a LOT better for not much more money. Especially for a dedicated "man cave" you want powerful subwoofers, they are really the most important ingredient for a great HT experience.

That said, yes, getting a matching front soundstage is very important for HT. It's hard to make suggestions without some details like approximate budget, size of the room, etc. With an AVR 590 (btw -- where did you "unbox" it, this receiver is now about 5 years old! did you buy a refurb?) which doesn't have a ton of power, you'd probably want to get reasonable sensitive speakers so they can be driven to good levels without distorting or straining the receiver. Also if you are willing to shop used for better value, knowing your local craigslist metro area can be helpful.

Frankly for now I would disconnect the crap speakers and just run 2ch with the Sony towers until you get better gear. The HTIB speakers are probably garbage and you should just sell them with the whole HTIB set and direct the money towards your REAL setup smile.gif

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When I say unboxed I mean from the seller haha.  I know it is an older receiver but for the money I paid it is great bang for the buck.  The Polk was a CL score for $60 so Im not mad at that money spent, I know I can do much better but for starters it should do.  The budget is not huge for right now (willing to spend several hundred on USED front speakers) and the room is roughly 18x14 the TV is a 50" LED LG.  Usually the setup is only running PS4 or bluray hardly watch any TV in this room.  From what I have been seeing out there, $300-400 should net me pretty decent front monitors.

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Just to be clear, is 18x14 the current room or the future basement setup? That's probably the more important part to optimize for if that will be the long term home.

Also you failed to mention your local craigslist metro area. That will help if you want someone else to scope out used deals.

For $60 the PSW10 will do fine as a temp fill-in. It would probably be the first in line for an upgrade when you do set up the basement. You could probably repurpose it in another setup (e.g. the living room) where deep, thundering bass isn't as important as the REAL setup.
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That is the current size, the final setup will be more than likely double that, conservatively.  I am in the Baltimore area.  Another plus is, like you said, I can re-purpose the setup for another area which will be my garage.  I am going to do audio in there as well when I am working and use an A/B channel for outdoor speakers on the patio.

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Still loving my AVR-590! Couldn't really live without Audyssey so I even bought a 2nd one for my PC setup.

Have my 2nd AVR-590 powering my Definitive ProMonitor 800 speakers and Outlaw M8 sub!
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Passthrough Issues

Greetings - sorry if this has been covered in a previous post...

I have the 590 connected to my BD and HTPC components which go through the 590, but I'm having issues with my HTPC being recognized by my Samsung PN58C550 when the 590 is off. When I turn the television on, I am sometimes given a NO SIGNAL. Yet I have set up the HDMI Passthrough to HDMI3 (the location of my HTPC). The signal does come when I turn the 590 on and select the SAT/CBL button, but sometimes the video will convert to 720 instead of staying at 1080. I have to minimize my Windows Media Center and then maximize it for the video issue to clear up.

I know this must be an error on my part, as there's a setting somewhere I've missed. I also took the advice of many sites to turn off the CEC on the television. If I do that, then I get no audio when I turn the 590 on. Sometimes if I turn the 590 on to get the HTPC to recognize and then shut off the 590, my screen and audio return and I can now use the HTPC.

I've really mucked this portion up pretty good!

Thanks for your help in advance.

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Try placing an HDMI splitter/switch between the AVR and the TV and run it for a few minutes. Then place the splitter/switch between the HTPC and the AVR.

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UPDATE: I've been able to get it working temporarily by pressing the STANDBY button on the receiver off and then on again. But I can't see this working as a long term solution.

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Hi - we finally moved and unpacked our Denon receiver. I'm getting sound if I hook up a source via HDMI, but not if I connect by analog cables. I made sure to go into settings and make sure HDMI isn't one of input settings for the input modes I'm selecting. Help! Thanks.
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What's kind of source is it and what input is it connected to?

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My receiver suddenly lost all video output yesterday. I can't get anything out of hdmi or component. I tried resetting but that didn't do anything but erase my audyssey settings. Anyone have any idea or is time to get in the market for a new receiver?
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I just bought a 4k tv and should be here this weekend. I'm trying to figure out if I need to change up my wiring.

Does anyone know if running my inputs through the 1610 will decrease the quality? Debating if I need to rewire everything so the input sources go directly (HDMI) to the TV and then run optical from the inputs to the AVR.
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I just bought a 4k tv and should be here this weekend. I'm trying to figure out if I need to change up my wiring.

Does anyone know if running my inputs through the 1610 will decrease the quality? Debating if I need to rewire everything so the input sources go directly (HDMI) to the TV and then run optical from the inputs to the AVR.
It depends on the source. If you don't have any 4k sources, then they can continue to pass through the 1610 just fine, and the 4k display will then scale the signals (1080p or less) when it arrives. There shouldn't be any degradation when passing through video signals, but this factor is independent of whether your TV is 1080p or 4k native resolution.

If you also are going to add 4k sources, they cannot pass through the receiver. The 1610 is too old to support 4k passthrough. So a 4k source would need to connect directly to the TV.

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3.1 Set up

I'm moving next month and the good news is I grabbed a nice set of Paradigms (upgrade from Cambridge Soundworks) for the front, center, front to go along with my SVS sub but the bad news is I probably won't be able to have rear speakers. Is there a good setting for 3.1 with the 1610? Will Audessy automatically compensate?
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Yes. Just run Audyssey and the AVR will down mix all content to 3.1.
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Thank you. I've had it set up for five years and haven't messed with it once. Its like getting it brand new all over again.
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I'm having a recurring problem with my 590. The rear right speaker will occasionally go silent with a faint hissing sound. To remedy the problem for a while, I go into setup and check the speaker levels and play the test tone to all speakers. I've also done 2 resets, changed the speaker wires and speakers, and it's always the rear right speaker. Any suggestions? (I'm eyeing a $299 Sony STR-DN840 at Costco for a replacement, but would rather fix my 590 ).

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A repair is likely to cost at least $200 although if you have an authorized repair facility nearby perhaps they can give you an estimate.

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