Originally Posted by ss9001
Where's info on the 4810
Has it even been announced yet?
In speaking with Denon this week, they indicated that it was likely this fall. I think it's supposed to be some time around September. Initially the contact that it was later this month, but corrected himself when he looked further at his information there. If you google around for it, you can find some preliminary specs. Seems that it will be a not-insignificant upgrade price-wise from the 4310 (e.g., $3K).
Originally Posted by Tweakophyte
Can anyone comment on the HDMI switching/syncing speed, especially compared to older Denons? Any lag or drop-outs to report?
Versus the 4306 I own, it did seem notably faster in most switching functions. That was a pleasant surprise.
To shift gears to general impressions (in case anyone wanted mine!), as iBlumberg knows from the other thread, I too was a victim of the corrupt firmware issue. However, I did get a good four or so days of decent time with the unit before it was affected. In the end, I decided to return it. The firmware issue aside, I just felt it didn't offer a great enough improvement for me over my 4306 to justify the expense. I had really wanted the unit for its ABT chip, but in practical usage, I realized that 80+% of what I watch now is already high definition and I had to try really hard to discern the difference the upscaling/conversion might have been making. I do have 5 HDMI sources, so the ability to switch directly was nice too, but I had a Monoprice switch that works perfectly well, and with my Harmony remote, I really didn't suffer for lack of HDMI inputs in my system.
Overall, though, it was a very nice unit, that I would be proud to own. A couple of the key positives I came away with were:
- Audyssey seemed to be more advanced in the auto-setup mode
- I really liked the Audyssey volume spike management function, since I HATE loud commercials
- The on-screen display capabilities are infinitely more usable than is the case with the 4306 (which doesn't have HDMI OSD). And to whomever asked before, I recall that I had an on-screen volume indicated for all sources, including my 1080p PS3
- HD Radio seemed intriguing and was nice to be built in (but would ultimately be woefully underutilized by me personally)
- 6 HDMI inputs are nice to have
- The aforementioned improvement in switching speed was pronounced
Things that kept me from deciding to keep the unit:
- As noted, I just couldn't sense a big enough difference with the ABT chip (but that may be my untrained eye?). This was the biggest factor in my decision not to keep it
- The fact that I still cannot pass all audio via optical out to my Pioneer wireless headphones was disappointing (I'm sure this is a copy protection issue, but I was hoping!)
- My prior setup was nicely tweaked with switchers and splitters, so in some ways I didn't really need the 6 on-board HDMI inputs
- With a 2-year old, I'm just not pushing the system hard enough to pick up on the most finely detailed nuances in improved audio (although, as I noted, I did sense that Audyssey had evolved nicely in the last 3-4 years)
- My wife would never let me add more speakers to my system than my 5.1 setup, so all of the new functions allowable with IIz would again be underutilized
- And, oh yeah, that firmware issue (which Denon was attentive to, so this is minor)
All in all, I just decided I'd put the money back in my pocket and wait for the "next big thing" or a real need on my part. I will lust after some of the features I've now forsaken, but if I grow anxious in their absence I can always pull the trigger again down the road. For those of you who have or will get it, I'm sure you will enjoy it! Just my proverbial two cents.