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post #91 of 212 Old 07-31-2009, 12:03 PM
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well... i would imagine it's "louder"...

however, imo, "if it sounds good to you, then it IS good"...

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I got a issue with my 919..
It seems i can't display 1080p 60hz through mine.
It is fuzzy its connected to an Optoma hd200x projector the signal is coming from my HTPC.
I know the cable and the projectors are good cause when connect the projector to the HTPC everything works fine at 60hz.

So if someone can confirm if theres can display 1080P at 60hz that would be great.
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htpc's are known to have "issues" with hdmi repeaters (which is what you are doing by sticking an avr in the middle)... it's unfortunate, but it is what it is...

post in the htpc forum what card you are using and what the rest of your components are in the chain and someone might be able to help you...

fwiw, posting your original question in one place in a subforum was enough...

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Does anyone know if I need the upscaling of the 1019?
I have a Vizio GV42L 1080P 42" TV. Does this upscale everything already?
PS3 to play DVD's & Bluray. Does this upscale?
And Cox HD box. Will this output 1080p?

I'm stepping up from a VSX-D810S. The power seems a little weak. I have a 12" Velodyne CHT-12R Subwoofer, Polk CS10 center, & Built in BIC that came with the house.

Been reading the forums and picked up HDMI cables from monoprice, some banana plugs from bluejeanscable.com, Logitech Harmony 720 remote & PS3 adapter.

The 919 is more readily in stock and is a bit cheaper and seems to meet my needs. I have an iphone so I like that feature. Thanks for helping a noob!
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Does anyone know if I need the upscaling of the 1019?
I have a Vizio GV42L 1080P 42" TV. Does this upscale everything already?
PS3 to play DVD's & Bluray. Does this upscale?
And Cox HD box. Will this output 1080p?

I'm stepping up from a VSX-D810S. The power seems a little weak. I have a 12" Velodyne CHT-12R Subwoofer, Polk CS10 center, & Built in BIC that came with the house.

Been reading the forums and picked up HDMI cables from monoprice, some banana plugs from bluejeanscable.com, Logitech Harmony 720 remote & PS3 adapter.

The 919 is more readily in stock and is a bit cheaper and seems to meet my needs. I have an iphone so I like that feature. Thanks for helping a noob!

Welcome to the forums!

With those sources I doubt you need the upscale feature.

Your PS3 will be outputting 1080p.

Check the settings for your Cox box, but I bet you can set it to output 1080i all the time - you won't get 1080p out of that.

Let your TV do the 1080i to 1080p conversion and you will be all set.

With the 919, you get three HDMI ports: BD, TV, and one more. Since you only have two devices now, you have room for one more.

If you want to save a bit of money, the 919 is a good deal. If you feel you would need the extra HDMI, extra coax digital audio port, or some of the additional flexibility in "Zone 2" (if you use that feature), then go for the 1019.
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Thanks for the info! Do all TV's automatically upscale to 1080P? If I get a Nintendo Wii later on, I want to make sure that it can upscale to 1080. If the TV has it built in, I wont waste my money for the extra on the receiver.

Also, what is the advatage of HMDI passthrough that the Denon has that the Pioneer doesn't?

Also, does the upscaling on the 1019 only work from component in, or will it work with HDMI in as well? Someone in another forum said "The denon upconverts to 1080p through HDMI and the pioneer doesnt"
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All modern lcd & plasma will upscale or downscale to whatever their inherent "native" resolution is. They have to, otherwise, you wouldn't get a picture any time your incoming source is at a different resolution, like standard dvd for example (you don't NEED an upscaling dvd player, per se). Now, some processors built into various devices (tv, receiver, cable box, dvd players, etc.) will handle this task better than others, but in general, they do similarly well. Unless you're talking more expensive, higher end stuff; dvdo, flagship receivers, etc.

The one thing Denon can do with their hdmi that Pioneer does not is to allow you to view tv w/sound coming from the tv speakers when your hdmi cables are first routed through the receiver but the receiver is turned off. With Pioneer, the receiver must be turned on for the audio/video to pass on to the tv. Some care about this capability, some don't.


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Thanks Cruel Intentions, after your post, I did some research and found this link: hometheater.about.com/od/hometheatervideobasics/qt/dvdvidupscale.htm
It explained everything I was looking to know.

Found this review below which in essence shows the Pioneer scaler is just as basic as the HDTV, so it's upscaling would have no real advantage of better artifact removal, noise, etc over that of the HDTV.

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I had lots of questions on the video scaler. I agree with most posters that you should not buy an AVR for this capability. Most TVs will do a better job than any $500 AVR. My TV is a 2006 model though and it has pretty average scaling so I wanted to see how it would look. I hooked up my Comcast DVR with both HDMI and with Component/Optical to gauge the difference. HDMI looks great (and no scaling, of course) but there was no impact on visual signal. I did not have any annoying audio lags either. Component also looks really good for HD signals. I could not tell the difference between the HDMI and Component signals on HD channels.

I then tried it on some SD channels with the scaler set to 1080p. The AVR did fine but it wasn't any better than my TV. No worse either but then I already mentioned my scaler is pretty average. So, as I said earlier, don't buy the unit for the scaler but it's not a negative either. Just try it for your sources and TV and it may or may not generate any improvement in PQ."

Thanks to everyone's help, I'm going to save a $120 and go with the 919!
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Well, it's difficult to say for sure but if I were to hazard a guess, they'd probably perform similarly. Once you have a receiver like this Pioneer or the Denon in your possession, the standard answer will then become, "try both, see if you can tell which one looks better and then use that device to perform the scaling and/or de-interlacing duties". Can't really argue with that.


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And like me, when buying a 919 you get the added bonus of being able to cook your dinner on it as well
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I just picked up the VSX-919ah-k from J&R for $330. I had them match newegg's price. J&R is authorized Pioneer dealer so I will have the 1 year warranty.

After my purchase I just found this $30 off coupon at newegg:
RECEIVER72X3 (expires: 7/23)

This makes it $299.99 shipped! Hope this helps someone.
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I'm very interested with the pioneer 919. Website says it supports 24 fps. How does it work? I'm upgrading from an 8 yr old sherwood so I run bluray from my ps3 directly to my samsung b550 plasma and sometimes I see jitter. What resolution do I set my ps3? I suppose it defaults to 1080p. If it solves the problem I'm definitely sold! Thanks in advance.
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Hello, will the 919 power B&W Speakers (601s and 602s). They're rated for 100w (rears) and 120w (main) Thanks!
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yes...

choose "ext.stereo" from the "advanced surround" modes... that should get you what you want...

but why?

Wow, kool perk. Quadraphonic sound is 4 speakers, What is 5? Cinqophonic?

Does the Pioneer 819 or 919 have an EQ for the Stereo Sound?
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If the 819 or 919 doesn't have an EQ, The CD-R analog in & out's on the back aren't pre-amp are they?
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Hello, will the 919 power B&W Speakers (601s and 602s). They're rated for 100w (rears) and 120w (main) Thanks!

I have B & W 802 up front and Centre Channel. The 1019 powers them and the rears plus SW just fine. The 919 is the same Amp.

I purchased the Canadian VSX-21 (9040 TXH). To be honest I could not justify the $400 price difference. So I returned it.
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so what exactly are the differences between the avr 590 and avr1610? denon..........why is one 40 bucks cheaper and which one is easier to set up? sorry im new to all this and this is the reciever i wanna get

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I am very interested in this AVR but I have two questions:

1. I have an external 2 channel power amplifier for the front channels (to drive my Maggies), I don't see any pre-outs for front LR channels. Can I use the Zone2 out for this purpose? In other words, can I listen to 5.1 on Zone 1, set zone 2 to the same source and get the LR front channels? Or does it do 2-channel down mix to output on Zone 2 (that would ruin the surround)? If I can't do this, it's a deal-breaker, the Maggies need lots of power.

2. I plan to route all my component video sources to the AVR and then feed video to my projector via HDMI. Does anyone have any opinions of the video quality doing this?

Thanks.

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Are there any pics of the Pioneer VSX-919AH-K insides? Thanks.
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I'm waiting on the warranty to expire on mine, otherwise there'd be pictures as fast as I could get the cover off

I may just go ahead and do it anyway this week out of pure curiosity.
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Is there a manufacture's label preventing opening the chassis?
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Not really - I just have to reach the point where curiosity overcomes my desire to be lazy and not disconnect and move the thing to where there's enough light to get pictures.
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Then by all means, at your convenience, sir. I was curious about the the amp. Is it a thickish finned unit or thin and "accordion" shaped-if that's the right metaphor. Thanks.
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The heatsink is a pretty cheap and thin affair in these... you can see it without taking the cover off.
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According to Audioholics-
P.H.A.T – Pioneer Hybrid Amplifier technology
With this new line, Pioneer is incorporating its newly developed Pioneer Hybrid Amplifier Technology (P.H.A.T.) power module that improves fundamental audio to a more powerful and accurate performance designed to exceed the capabilities of current comparably priced A/V receivers in the market. Featured in the VSX-518-K, VSX-818V-K, VSX-918V-K A/V receivers, P.H.A.T amplifiers are painstakingly engineered with hand-selected parts and critical listening sound tuning to ensure the entire range of audio from music and soundtracks is delivered.

In addition, the new models will benefit from temperature compensation technology that prevents temperature fluctuations from affecting output that can distort surround sound performance. With P.H.A.T., the new receivers produce a whopping 120 watts x 5 channel power output with an impressive .05% THD specification (1kHz, 8ohm). The new P.H.A.T amplifiers are further improved by utilizing smaller power modules minimizing internal and external electromagnetic interferences.
So it certainly doesn't sound like it's a whimpy thing. How does it sound to you?
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According to Audioholics-
P.H.A.T – Pioneer Hybrid Amplifier technology
With this new line, Pioneer is incorporating its newly developed Pioneer Hybrid Amplifier Technology (P.H.A.T.) power module that improves fundamental audio to a more powerful and accurate performance designed to exceed the capabilities of current comparably priced A/V receivers in the market. Featured in the VSX-518-K, VSX-818V-K, VSX-918V-K A/V receivers, P.H.A.T amplifiers are painstakingly engineered with hand-selected parts and critical listening sound tuning to ensure the entire range of audio from music and soundtracks is delivered.

In addition, the new models will benefit from temperature compensation technology that prevents temperature fluctuations from affecting output that can distort surround sound performance. With P.H.A.T., the new receivers produce a whopping 120 watts x 5 channel power output with an impressive .05% THD specification (1kHz, 8ohm). The new P.H.A.T amplifiers are further improved by utilizing smaller power modules minimizing internal and external electromagnetic interferences.
So it certainly doesn't sound like it's a whimpy thing. How does it sound to you?

Sounds like Pioneer marketing hype to me.

and I love my 919 but that stated wattage is ridiculous.
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I understand the dismissive attitude toward colorful marketing practices. I feel the same way toward religion. But it does not negate the fact that P.H.A.T. is a new technology with a different approach to amplify signals.
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It's probably their name for a switching power supply used with the same old amp on chip parts most budget receivers get. I'm an electronics tech - shouldn't take too much to find that out once I have the cover off. I won't want to get too deep into mine though.
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