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post #1 of 6 Old 07-12-2009, 09:14 PM - Thread Starter
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OK, the new home we moved into has mains, surrounds, and a center channel in the walls and ceiling. There is also 1 pair of speakers in the ceiling of the master bedroom with a wall mount control, which is fed by a single pair of binding posts. All speakers are 8 ohm. With an AVR and a subwoofer and I'll have my first 5.1ch setup. However, I want to be able to listen to music in both the family room and bedroom, so A+B stereo output is important. My initial desire for the AVR is for music, but I figure I should enjoy better movie watching too. I've noticed that the Denon receivers require 12 ohm speakers if using both A+B. Hmm, I think I'll need to change out the volume control in the master bedroom to add some resistance.


I would like to buy an AVR. I have my choices narrowed down to the Onkyo TX-SR507, Denon AVR-1709, and Denon AVR-1610.

Watching TV is not so important that I will pay extra for a HD DVR setup. For us (wife & I), paying what we do for DirecTV DVR Plus is borderline a waste of money. Watching movies may or may not be so important that I will go Blu-Ray and a HDTV. We'll look at those options when the TV and/or DVD player gives up the ghost. It basically boils down to whatever a HDTV and Blu-Ray costs at whatever point in time it is that I need to make the purchase. I'd rather put $$ into new mountain bike parts, or a four wheeler for the kids, or some activity that puts us outside rather than sitting on the couch. However, since the speakers are already there, I figured I could get away with $400 to $500 for AVR & sub-woofer. Oh yeah, there's cables too, but you get understand now that whiz bang is not of utmost importance.


Here's my current equipment list:
  • TV video input - component, s-video, composite
  • TV audio input - composite
  • DVD video output - component, s-video, composite
  • DVC audio output - digital (both optical and coaxial), composite
  • Sat DVR video output - s-video, composite
  • SAT DVR audio output - digital optical, composite
If my new TV is HD, will there be any purpose in having HDMI upconversion on the AVR if I am only feeding the AVR s-video from the Sat DVR? I haven't followed DVD technology in a while, but I'm guessing our next DVD player will probably have HDMI output, regardless if it's Blu-Ray or not.

The only AVR on my list with component upconversion is the 1709, so if I go 1610 or 507, I'll need to connect both s-video and component between the AVR and TV, because that's what it's being supplied with from the DVR and DVD. No big deal I guess, it's just one more cable. I also want to supply TV with composite audio for when I don't want to send audio to 5.1 speakers. Would I still need to have AVR powered up for this, or is there a pass-thru when AVR is powered down?

Hey folks, it's late and I'm getting up in 6 hours. Thank you for your answering my dumb questions, but this stuff has come a long way since the last time I did any research. I just don't want to over buy, but I also don't want to under buy.

I'm sure I'll have more questions later. Again, thank you.
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Anyone? I'm looking at the same receivers right now.

I can go to the store tonight and get:

AVR-590 - $298
Onkyo 507- $298
Onkyo 607 - $367

Or should I hold off and order a 1709 for about $200?

For the foreseeable future I will be running digital audio from my PC (via x-fi) for Blurays, music and games, and digital out from my HD DVR box. I do have the option of upgrading my sound card to stream lossless HDMI audio for blurays down the road.

What do you guys think?
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fiveohno - Would you please edit your post and remove the prices. I don't want the prices in your post screwing up my thread.





I'm hoping somebody can please answer my question from last week.


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Post Number 3 so that I can post links.
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fiveohno - Here's the link explaining that you can't list prices other than MSRP.


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=850593
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Yeah, the reason for no prices is prevent solicitation, which since I posted no links or business names, I am obviously not doing. I am just trying to make a decision and the prices are relevant to that.

I would have started my own thread, but we are pretty much in the same boat and I didn't want to add more clutter to the forum.
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