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Does anyone have any information about this 7.1 receiver from Sherwood. It has:
HDMI 1.3 with Deep Color Support
Lossless Audio: DTS-HD Master Audio; Dolby TruHD
DTS 96/24; Neo 6 Cinema & Music
Dolby: Dolby Digital +, ProLogic IIx
PCM: 96 kHz Multichannel; 192 kHz Stereo
Dolby Volume
Upgradeable Firmware
24-bit A to D converters
Optical/Coaxial digital inputs
Independent Room 2 Audio Output
Preprogrammed Remote Control
A/V Synch Delay by input (0 to 200 mS)
Automatic Speaker Set-up with Supplied Microphone
SNAP Room EQ
(www.proaudioinc.com/Dealer_Area/NetBoxx2.pdf)

I saw the product for sale @ Sears for $600 on Sunday but there wasn't one in stock. Now the price lists for $110 with the ability to order and have it by the 21st.
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Looks like you've found all that's to be found...

Looks interesting though. I can't count how many threads have been started here on AVS by people looking for something like this.
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You might send a PM to Jeff Hipps, an AVS member and USA Sales Manager for Sherwood. I generally like Sherwood stuff, but unless this has full preouts to add a separate power amp I would have to pass. The power is rated at 0.2 THD (higher than typical) at 6 ohms (should be rated at 8 ohms). OTOH, this is one of the first of what is probably going to become a more common component in the future - it's called "convergenc."

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^^ +1 Might make a hell of a pre/pro. For $110!.
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I'd be surprised if it has pre-outs, but it would be great for a bedroom or other secondary system, IMHO.
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No 7.1 Pre-Outs..
Only Subwoofer/LFE Out..

Just my $0.015...
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Here's the reply I got from Jeff Hipps at Sherwood:
"It will be available at the end of September. Netboxx is unilaterally priced at $649.95. If you have specific questions, please let me know."
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Thanks everyone. I talked to the Sherwood rep. today. It will be availible for $649 in September as J.M. stated in his post. Possibly look for it at the CEDIA EXPO.
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Here's the Cedia news:

Sherwood's new box
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It's due out right after the 972 !
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It's due out right after the 972 !

lol, hold ur breath
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I'm just looking for a slim AVR with remote control. Don't need the AM/FM tuner.
If this catches on, maybe there's hope for a new trend to take hold down the road!
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I'm meeting with one of Sherwood's PR folks at CEDIA Expo on Friday... I'll see what new details I can learn and possibly setup a review.

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This Sherwood reciever could be a remarkable product. The amplification is based on TI chips, similar to what Panny receivers have been using for a number of years. There is no point in having pre-outs. This thing maintains pure digital path. If the amp section is as solid as that of Panny, then this could be a real winner especially when combined with advanced audio processing, media streaming, etc.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/09/s...in-online-med/

Let us hope Sherwood delivers the goods later this month.
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Sherwood VuNow Media Module
• Front and Rear USB jacks
• RJ 45 Ethernet jack
• Direct access to YouTube
• Search and stream Internet video directly to NetBoxx™
• Direct access to international news sites
• Direct access to favorite Internet channels
• SHOUTcast internet radio
• Stream Audio, Video and Photos from Home Network
• Supports virtually all Audio and Video codecs
Supports High Def video (720p)
• Supports Cinema Now movie download

720p ?
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Let us hope Sherwood delivers the goods later this month.

Let us hope that the new 904 do not go the way of the older 903.
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720p ?

But it will pass-through 1080P from HDMI in to HDMI out. I asked.

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This Sherwood reciever could be a remarkable product. The amplification is based on TI chips, similar to what Panny receivers have been using for a number of years. There is no point in having pre-outs. This thing maintains pure digital path. If the amp section is as solid as that of Panny, then this could be a real winner especially when combined with advanced audio processing, media streaming, etc.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/09/s...in-online-med/

Let us hope Sherwood delivers the goods later this month.

I saw this device at CEDIA and was rather impressed, at least with the media streaming capabilities (mainly aggregating from various channels and PlayOn integration). I was also told that the TI amplification chips being used were a 4ohm stable version, so that may mean a more robust amplification.

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The 904 was demoed @ CEDIA..
Very awesome package, shown in Black and White IDs..
Video processing done by TI's Davinci..
Audio processing done by TI's (1) 788 & (1) 787..
Wireless done through USB adapter..


IMHO..
A very significant product..

Just my $0.015..
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The 904 was demoed @ CEDIA..
Very awesome package, shown in Black and White IDs..
Video processing done by TI's Davinci..
Audio processing done by TI's (1) 788 & (1) 787..
Wireless done through USB adapter..


IMHO..
A very significant product..

Just my $0.015..

So the audio and video processing are clear, but anyone know which amplifier chips are in use?

I wonder if Panasonic's Dual/Triple-amp capability will be carried over by Sherwood.

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So the audio and video processing are clear, but anyone know which amplifier chips are in use?

I wonder if Panasonic's Dual/Triple-amp capability will be carried over by Sherwood.

This may finally be something worth upgrading my XR700 for.

The spec sheet says "Built-in Biamp Capability" which should be the same as "Advanced Dual Amp + Bi-amp" in the XR55/700. I don't believe they could functionally split those two features. Anyone have a back panel image?

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So the audio and video processing are clear, but anyone know which amplifier chips are in use?

I wonder if Panasonic's Dual/Triple-amp capability will be carried over by Sherwood.

The digital amplifiers in the 904 are also from TI..
Regarding the reference to Panasonic, TI actually did the complete technical design for their XR5x series..

Just my $0.015...
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mikea28:

Amplification is the TI TAS5630.

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The digital amplifiers in the 904 are also from TI..
Regarding the reference to Panasonic, TI actually did the complete technical design for their XR5x series..

Just my $0.015...

Great info M Code! Didn't know that previously.

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Amplification is the TI TAS5630.

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Interesting to note that TAS5630 is an "Analog input 300W Stereo (600W total) class D amplifier with integrated feedback" according to TI. That may not be as nice as the pure digital path the Panasonics had. Speaking of which, who remembers what amp chipset(s) Panasonic used in their various XR-series receivers?

Also interesting to note that the THD specs are much lower in TI's datasheet than in Sherwood's brochure. Might just be marketing BS to keep this a low end device.

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This may finally be something worth upgrading my XR700 for.

The spec sheet says "Built-in Biamp Capability" which should be the same as "Advanced Dual Amp + Bi-amp" in the XR55/700. I don't believe they could functionally split those two features. Anyone have a back panel image?

I'm always skeptical of the marketing folks. That could just mean Bi-wire capability or some garbage, but I'm hopeful that you're right.

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mikea28:

I thought you'd be doing back flips for joy over our choice of amps. This is the 4 ohm capable version of TI's Oasis amplifier. Oasis is their most advanced DAMP device.

I don't know what, "Advanced Dual Amp + Bi-amp" means, but we mean that you can use the rear center amplifiers to bi-amp your front speakers.

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I thought you'd be doing back flips for joy over our choice of amps. This is the 4 ohm capable version of TI's Oasis amplifier. Oasis is their most advanced DAMP device.

I don't know what, "Advanced Dual Amp + Bi-amp" means, but we mean that you can use the rear center amplifiers to bi-amp your front speakers.

Jeff

I'll assume you meant the "rear surround" amplifiers not "rear center."
Does the bi-amp capability require 2 pairs of wire or 4? The XR700 supports both.

"Advanced dual amp" = rear surround amps power LF and RF in addition to their standard amps via 2 pairs of wire

"Advanced dual amp + bi-wire" = rear surround amps power LF (high) and RF (high) and standard amps power LF (low) and RF (low)

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Yepeee!

This thing sounds great. It really seems to have everything one needs, and it's small, and cool-looking, and hopefully reasonably cool-running. And I love the Ti sound.

Anyone know if the 2-nd room has separate Room EQ? Also, what are opinions re Sherwood's SNAP Room EQ?
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I sent a PM to Jeff to get some questions answered as this Netboxx sounds like my dream combination of AppleTV + HDMI switcher + 100 watt x 7 digital amp. If the amp is as good as my current Panny XR55 I'm sold (love that little silver guy!). In addition, I really need something under 6" tall to fit in my entertainment center and it seems every other AVR out there is atleast 5" which does not give enough breathing room. The only unit that does all this in the same space is the Marantz NR1501, but its a traditional 50 watt amp so I assume it runs warmer.

Looking forward to getting more info on the Netboxx. If $650 is MSRP what is the street price going to be? $500 is about my limit for an AVR.

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The street price may be close to retail, since Sherwood has the unilateral price scheme in place, which means they 'll cut off dealers who sell below certain price. Stupid policy IMO.
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In general how does Sherwood receivers compare to brands like Denon, Sony, etc. sound quality wise ?
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