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post #271 of 1706 Old 10-27-2009, 04:45 PM
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I also doubt their expertise, that's why i prefer the German (AudioVision) test But it's always funny too see different opinions about this unit.
Next week i have a listening session planned (SR6004 and the Monitor Audio RX6).

Nice website.

I noticed reviews of 5003 and 6003. Hmm, with almost identical results listening test scores still differed much (multi ch & stereo):

5003: 22/30 (good) & 8/10 (good)
6003: 26/30 (very good)) & 9/10 (very good)

One might have noticed the possible fact that the front panel of a receiver might have some effect on the receiver's sound quality... Receivers with pretty panel sound nicer .

Just kidding...
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Hey Guys ... I'm looking to purchase either a new Marantz SR8002 or the SR6004 ...

I don't really need the bluetooth feature of the SR6004 ... and like the extra power and dual room controls of the SR8002 ...

Since the 8002 is older, does it still do a great job with the HD decoding as well as with HDMI connections?

Which unit would be preferred???

I'll be pairing this with a Klipsch Reference 7 setup ...

Thanks!
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Hey Guys ... I'm looking to purchase either a new Marantz SR8002 or the SR6004 ...

I don't really need the bluetooth feature of the SR6004 ... and like the extra power and dual room controls of the SR8002 ...

Since the 8002 is older, does it still do a great job with the HD decoding as well as with HDMI connections?

Which unit would be preferred???

I'll be pairing this with a Klipsch Reference 7 setup ...

Thanks!

8002:
http://hometheatermag.com/receivers/508mar8002/index2.html


5003:
http://hometheatermag.com/receivers/...er/index3.html

It's power ratings are better than in 6003/5003, and the THD keeps in very low levels all the way up. According to Bigred7078 these kind of differences are meaningless
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We have a feeling that Marantz has used same things in 5004 and 6004 and the advertised power of 6004 (110W) versus 5004 (90W) is just advertisement for better sells.

But in reality it doesnt even matter. 110w vs. 90w. will see no real world differences.

8002's power:
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Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1 percent distortion at 119.0 watts
1 percent distortion at 133.8 watts


All channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1 percent distortion at 109.1 watts
1 percent distortion at 117.7 watts


This graph shows that the SR8002’s left channel, from CD input to speaker output with two channels driving 8-ohm loads, reaches 0.1 percent distortion at 174.1 watts and 1 percent distortion at 187.4 watts. Into 4 ohms, the amplifier reaches 0.1 percent distortion at 231.9 watts and 1 percent distortion at 271.5 watts.

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Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 103.8 watts
1% distortion at 118.0 watts


Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 88.2 watts
1% distortion at 99.9 watts


This graph shows that the SR5003’s left channel, from CD input to speaker output with two channels driving 8-ohm loads, reaches 0.1 percent distortion at 153.1 watts and 1 percent distortion at 171.3 watts. Into 4 ohms, the amplifier reaches 0.1 percent distortion at 204.7 watts and 1 percent distortion at 239.6 watts.



8002 has worse signal to noise ratio than 03 or the new 04 series' receivers. I think 8002's S/N ratio is even below average.

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The signal-to-noise ratio with 2.83 volts driving an 8-ohm load from 10 Hz to 24 kHz with “A” weighting was –95.25 dBrA

5003:
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The signal-to-noise ratio with 2.83 volts driving an 8-ohm load from 10 Hz to 24 kHz with “A” weighting was –102.19 dBrA.

So maybe you should wait until Marantz releases the new 800x model. If you absolutely want to buy more expensive receiver now, I would not go for 8002.



Edit: I changed the "It's power ratings are better than in 6004/5004" to It's power ratings are better than in 6003/5003", because the test results concerned 03 series... The results are highly applicable to 04 series though. When we find out 03 series' transformers and capasitores type, then we know how applicable.
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It's power ratings are better than in 6004/5004, and the THD keeps in very low levels all the way up. According to Bigred7078 these kind of differences are meaningless


Don't mock me

They ARE meaningless, you will never hear such a small wattage difference. If you think you can, then sir you must have magical ears layered in unicorn tears.
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Don't mock me

They ARE meaningless, you will never hear such a small wattage difference. If you think you can, then sir you must have magical ears layered in unicorn tears.

The are pretty meaningless in regards to max sound pressure levels. 90 --> 110 watts give 20/90 * 3db = 0,667 db greater max sound pressure with same speakers. When power is doubled from 90 watts to 180 watts, the max sound pressure is elevated by 3 db.

But max power/power reserve does play a role also in controlling the sound. 110 watts amplifier cotrols the speakers more easily than 90 wats amplifier, because of it's greater power reseve. It also won't go to it's knees in dynamic changes so easily, so it also gives better dynamic response.

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Bigred, you shoul consider that the differences between all over/near 100w RMS (multi ch) receivers are small. There might be a couple of 200w RMS (multi ch) receivers (I mean tested power, not what the manufacturer alleges), but they will cost you most definitely Unicorn tears .
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But max power/power reserve does play a role also in controlling the sound. 110 watts amplifier cotrols the speakers more easily than 90 wats amplifier, because of it's greater power reseve. It also won't go to it's knees in dynamic changes so easily, so it also gives better dynamic response.



CAN play a role in controlling the sound. You are assuming that a receiver will have a large power supply and large amounts of capacitance. At this level, a receiver with 110 watts vs, 90 watts is still not noticeable because they are not greatly increasing the transformer and capacitance. If you see a increase in those sizes, its generally very small and again not discernable.

You are also just assuming the speakers are taking full advantage of the power reserves. Even if they are, a 110 watt/channel receiver will clip just as easily as a 90 watt/channel receiver lol. Thats why they say you need to double the power, not only because of the perceived +3 db change, but generally because the added capacitance will give you greater headroom to be able to keep up with the dynamic response.

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Bigred, you shoul consider that the differences between all over/near 100w RMS (multi ch) receivers are small. There might be a couple of 200w RMS (multi ch) receivers (I mean tested power, not what the manufacturer alleges), but they will cost you most definitely Unicorn tears .


I dont see/get what you are saying? But thats what i have been saying....the differenecs in these receivers are small within this power class. 110 vs 90 watts is just a gimmick because they know most consumers will see it as a big power change when in reality it is not by a long shot.

I won't continue to argue this with you though. You obviously think you have it "figured out".
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The are pretty meaningless in regards to max sound pressure levels. 90 --> 110 watts give 20/90 * 3db = 0,667 db greater max sound pressure with same speakers. When power is doubled from 90 watts to 180 watts, the max sound pressure is elevated by 3 db.

0.667 dB is not correct. SPL is not linear so you just divide 20/90 and multiply it by 3 dB. SPL is a logarithmic calculation.

The part that in 180 watts, it is double in power is true but for double in sound volume it requires about 900 watts from 90 watts.
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I won't continue to argue this with you though. You obviously think you have it "figured out".

Good! Can you at least contribute your Power Supply model # ?!

You have 6003 right? So we can see what is changed from 6003/5003 series.
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0.667 dB is not correct. SPL is not linear so you just divide 20/90 and multiply it by 3 dB. SPL is a logarithmic calculation.

The part that in 180 watts, it is double in power is true but for double in sound volume it requires about 900 watts from 90 watts.

Sorry for this. I knew it is logaritmic not linear scale. Doubling tha power increases the max sound pressure by 3db.

I think the correct calculation is 10 * 10log (110/90) = 0,872 dB...

I agree, please share the info, Bigred
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even if the power is the same 6004 has enough 5004 to push me towards it.

1. Clean front facia.
2. iPod/iPhone support
3. Bluetooth streaming of audio.
4. 2 HDMI outs

Also its costing me around $150 extra only.

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even if the power is the same 6004 has enough 5004 to push me towards it.

1. Clean front facia.
2. iPod/iPhone support
3. Bluetooth streaming of audio.
4. 2 HDMI outs

Also its costing me around $150 extra only.

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The 6004 is one sweet sounding machine. Nice!


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even if the power is the same 6004 has enough 5004 to push me towards it.

1. Clean front facia.
2. iPod/iPhone support
3. Bluetooth streaming of audio.
4. 2 HDMI outs

Also its costing me around $150 extra only.

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For only $150 hands down you have better deal with 6004. Unfortunately not everyone has access to those sources. The list price difference is $400 and my dealer didn't go below $330 even when I offered $250 more for 6004.

Anyway, personally, I prefer the 5004 front look because if you use the door too much for USB and iPod, well, what's the point of the door!

Bluetooth streaming is not always smooth and is not compatible with all devices.

Two HDMI outs cannot produce output at the same time, you can only switch between them, meaning, one is always off.

If I had your deal, for sure I went with 6004 but for over $300 it does not worth it.
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Actually is not that good. Here in India the 5004 is priced very high and thus 6004 is cheap relatively. I am sure your price for 6004 would not be more than mine. Its just that you get 5004 cheaper, which option is absent here. 5004 is $900 here after discounts.

If you have tested the door panel what are the views on it. Is it likely to come off with use or its sturdy. Is it push mechanism or or manually open it. Also any experience with bluetooth. I plan to use with Sony Ericsson Mobile and my iPod Touch.

2HDMI outs are for TV + PJ. Also I want to use the component out of video in another room as zone 2.

Any views

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For only $150 hands down you have better deal with 6004. Unfortunately not everyone has access to those sources. The list price difference is $400 and my dealer didn't go below $330 even when I offered $250 more for 6004.

Anyway, personally, I prefer the 5004 front look because if you use the door too much for USB and iPod, well, what's the point of the door!

Bluetooth streaming is not always smooth and is not compatible with all devices.

Two HDMI outs cannot produce output at the same time, you can only switch between them, meaning, one is always off.

If I had your deal, for sure I went with 6004 but for over $300 it does not worth it.

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When picking up my new Monitor audio RX6s today (one freaking good pair of speakers by the way) I noticed an SR 5003 at the display.

It's transformer had this s/n: CLT5W034ZE. 6004 and 5004 has, as we remember, has s/n of CLT5W034YE.

So I think it is true that Marantz has put different transformer inside the new 04 series. Different in what way, I don't know.

edit. the transformer was also placed differently in 5003

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Actually is not that good. Here in India the 5004 is priced very high and thus 6004 is cheap relatively. I am sure your price for 6004 would not be more than mine. Its just that you get 5004 cheaper, which option is absent here. 5004 is $900 here after discounts.

It is not priced very high, it is the nature of your country. Here in America tax is paid for everything twice or even more. Manufacturer pays the sells tax when they sell to you or dealer, dealer pay taxes and finally you do pay taxes. So the price is cheaper than India for example. I know this because I lived in that region and believe me even at $900 it is still cheap since you don't pay 33% of your income to tax

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If you have tested the door panel what are the views on it. Is it likely to come off with use or its sturdy. Is it push mechanism or or manually open it. Also any experience with bluetooth. I plan to use with Sony Ericsson Mobile and my iPod Touch.

I haven't had 6004 but when I did close and open the door in the store it looked fine. There is no parts that might broke because it uses magnets to hold it up I guess. It was nicely made. Don't worry about it might break or something anytime soon. My point was regarding "Stylish" comment that if you use it too much it is like it is always open.

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2HDMI outs are for TV + PJ. Also I want to use the component out of video in another room as zone 2.

I am not sure but I think you cannot use component 2 for zone 2. There is no zone 2 for video I guess. Only 2 HDMI that you can switch between them. Zones are for audio I guess.

Finally, buy 6004 and David Garrett music CDs and enjoy the life. Both 6004 and 5004 have great sound specially in pure-direct mode for music.
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Actually is not that good. Here in India the 5004 is priced very high and thus 6004 is cheap relatively. I am sure your price for 6004 would not be more than mine. Its just that you get 5004 cheaper, which option is absent here. 5004 is $900 here after discounts.

If you have tested the door panel what are the views on it. Is it likely to come off with use or its sturdy. Is it push mechanism or or manually open it. Also any experience with bluetooth. I plan to use with Sony Ericsson Mobile and my iPod Touch.

2HDMI outs are for TV + PJ. Also I want to use the component out of video in another room as zone 2.

Any views

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Door is sturdy, but a bit tricky to open up. My only real complaint is it does not have a button to activate zone 2 behind it. 6004 is a damn good looking receiver.

as for the bluetooth, i tried to connect it to my laptop and gave up after a few tries. frankly, i think the transmitter is more useful as an IR relay.
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Door is sturdy, but a bit tricky to open up. My only real complaint is it does not have a button to activate zone 2 behind it. 6004 is a damn good looking receiver.

as for the bluetooth, i tried to connect it to my laptop and gave up after a few tries. frankly, i think the transmitter is more useful as an IR relay.

My thoughts on the bluetooth feature were: Since I have the means to connect my devices directly to the Marantz receiver, why would I ever use my phone or ipod or computer through bluetooth. It makes more sense to me to hook up something like an Apple TV or a playstation 3 or an HTPC to the receiver directly. The sound and picture quality, it seems to me, would be much better from those sources rather than from an ipod or mp3 player though bluetooth. And if, I wanted to hook up an ipod or mp3 player, that can be done too. I guess, for me, I just didn't see the bluetooth feature as being the best option.

Maybe those of you that are using it might have a better perspective than me. it would be interesting to hear what you have to say about this....

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Bluetooth is never the first option to connect. Its just more convenient once in a while.

If you are having a party you can change music from anywhere in the room on your iPhone. Also one may not want leave the phone unattended. Also useful if someone else wants to stream from their iPod/iPhone.These are situations where sound quality is not of prime importance. Most of the time it will not be used and is not a deal breaker.

But iPod via USB is a very good feature. Also iPod can also have lossless tracks and it is important to transmit it via USB in order to use the AVRs DAC and the iPod's one ( I assume it is inferior).

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My thoughts on the bluetooth feature were: Since I have the means to connect my devices directly to the Marantz receiver, why would I ever use my phone or ipod or computer through bluetooth. It makes more sense to me to hook up something like an Apple TV or a playstation 3 or an HTPC to the receiver directly. The sound and picture quality, it seems to me, would be much better from those sources rather than from an ipod or mp3 player though bluetooth. And if, I wanted to hook up an ipod or mp3 player, that can be done too. I guess, for me, I just didn't see the bluetooth feature as being the best option.

Maybe those of you that are using it might have a better perspective than me. it would be interesting to hear what you have to say about this....

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Totally off topic, but you go mad if you count the number of taxes prevalent in India.

You have Excise Duty for manufacturer, Sales Tax/VAT, Service tax on repairs, Octroi if you sell in city limits, Income Tax (yes, it is @ 33%) plus Wealth Tax, Fringe Benefit Tax, Security Transaction Tax. The list is not even halfway through.

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It is not priced very high, it is the nature of your country. Here in America tax is paid for everything twice or even more. Manufacturer pays the sells tax when they sell to you or dealer, dealer pay taxes and finally you do pay taxes. So the price is cheaper than India for example. I know this because I lived in that region and believe me even at $900 it is still cheap since you don't pay 33% of your income to tax

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Totally off topic, but you go mad if you count the number of taxes prevalent in India.

You have Excise Duty for manufacturer, Sales Tax/VAT, Service tax on repairs, Octroi if you sell in city limits, Income Tax (yes, it is @ 33%) plus Wealth Tax, Fringe Benefit Tax, Security Transaction Tax. The list is not even halfway through.

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Wow, then you are scr... even more than us. I was in one of your near countries and the government didn't care how much you earned. They only had custom tax and it was it. No income or sales tax or any other kind except property!
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Totally off topic, but you go mad if you count the number of taxes prevalent in India.

You have Excise Duty for manufacturer, Sales Tax/VAT, Service tax on repairs, Octroi if you sell in city limits, Income Tax (yes, it is @ 33%) plus Wealth Tax, Fringe Benefit Tax, Security Transaction Tax. The list is not even halfway through.

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I have my sympathy for you.
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But iPod via USB is a very good feature. Also iPod can also have lossless tracks and it is important to transmit it via USB in order to use the AVRs DAC and the iPod's one ( I assume it is inferior).

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Unfortunately just because a unit can accept the ipods USB connection does not make it bypass the iPods internal DAC's. If this is just like the other AVR's on the market that accept USB for ipods then it will not bypass that internal dac.

This is why a product like the wadia iTransport have been so popular.
http://www.wadia.com/products/transports/170i/
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Question for you guys in reference to the SR6004 ...

I want to run HDMI from my Sat. Receiver, Blu-ray, & XBOX to the SR6004 and then use a HDMI to DVI cable and run from the HDMI Out to the DVI connection on my TV Display ...

Is this OK and can I use the SR6004 as just a PASS Through and Not use it's Video Scaling, etc ...

Also, does the SR6004 allow you to set the size and crossover range for each speaker independently ???

Thanks!
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What is the case with Marantz SR6004. Can anyone confirm. Is iPod thru USB any better than iPod thru RCA in quality?

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Unfortunately just because a unit can accept the ipods USB connection does not make it bypass the iPods internal DAC's. If this is just like the other AVR's on the market that accept USB for ipods then it will not bypass that internal dac.

This is why a product like the wadia iTransport have been so popular.
http://www.wadia.com/products/transports/170i/

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What is the case with Marantz SR6004. Can anyone confirm. Is iPod thru USB any better than iPod thru RCA in quality?

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I don't KNOW, but if you go back into this thread, Legis mentioned that Marantz has the tops in audio through composite audio when compared to other comparable receivers. So, going RCA (composite) might not be as bad as you think.

But, USB for ipod should technically be better, I would think.

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What is the case with Marantz SR6004. Can anyone confirm. Is iPod thru USB any better than iPod thru RCA in quality?

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yes it would still be better than using a 3.5 to stereo connection, but the usb connection does not completely bypass the internal dac of the ipod, it just adds an extra step of ADC>DAC
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Question for you guys in reference to the SR6004 ...

I want to run HDMI from my Sat. Receiver, Blu-ray, & XBOX to the SR6004 and then use a HDMI to DVI cable and run from the HDMI Out to the DVI connection on my TV Display ...

Is this OK and can I use the SR6004 as just a PASS Through and Not use it's Video Scaling, etc ...

Also, does the SR6004 allow you to set the size and crossover range for each speaker independently ???

Thanks!

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yes you can do that without using the scaling of the Marantz, and no unfortunately it does not have independent crossover adjustments. Still the same ole global setting.
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yes you can do that without using the scaling of the Marantz, and no unfortunately it does not have independent crossover adjustments. Still the same ole global setting.

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there's no scaling of digital sources...what comes in from hdmi, goes out the same regardless of setting
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