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So the crossover point is global for all speakers on the Marantz? I believe the Denon also has the ability to set different crossover points for each speaker group (front, center surround, rear surround)...correct?

Not denon (or at least in my experience with the 2310), just onkyo. Onkyo you can manually adjust the crossover of each speaker. Guess helpful if you have widely varied speakers (ie mix in some no highs, no lows bose).
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Not denon (or at least in my experience with the 2310), just onkyo. Onkyo you can manually adjust the crossover of each speaker. Guess helpful if you have widely varied speakers (ie mix in some no highs, no lows bose).

I had this feature on denon 2308, 2808 and my current 2809. I wonder if this has been downgraded in the 2310.
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I had this feature on denon 2308, 2808 and my current 2809. I wonder if this has been downgraded in the 2310.

I'll check again, but I am 90% sure my denon 2310 only has options of LARGE or SMALL
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I'll check again, but I am 90% sure my denon 2310 only has options of LARGE or SMALL

The manual is kind of a mess, but it looks like it mentions it on page 30 under "Advanced" in the crossover frequency section.
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The manual is kind of a mess, but it looks like it mentions it on page 30 under "Advanced" in the crossover frequency section.

I'll dig through it later tonight. Makes me wonder if the marantz can as well considering their common heritage. Onkyo displays the xovers immediately after audyssey. they do have a full range option as well.
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So the crossover point is global for all speakers on the Marantz? I believe the Denon also has the ability to set different crossover points for each speaker group (front, center surround, rear surround)...correct?

Think so, but the marantz allows you to set the equalizer per channel to adjust the volume at the full range of frequency. very cool.
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Why opt for the 6004 over the 5004?
The 6004 offers more power - 90W vs 110W per channel. The 6004 also offers an additional HDMI input (total of four) and additional HDMI output (total of 2) for folks with two displays. It should be noted that the HDMI output is not a true repeater; only one output can be chosen at a time. The 6004 comes with the Bluetooth/IR extender for streaming music from bluetooth enabled devices like an iphone. This is an accessory that is available separate from the 5004. The 6004 has one additional optical input as well (total of three).

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Thank you for sharing your experience in detail.

I have decided to buy SR5004 and hopefully I will get it soon. I was looking for similar thread for previous Models and found out there is a common thread for Marantz SR5003/6003/7003/8003. 6004 has some added features over 5004, even the official Marantz manual for both is same with special comments for 6004.

I was wondering if you can change the title to SR5004/6004 (I haven't seen 7 & 8 yet) and also accommodate 5004 here or do you suggest me to start a new thread just for SR5004?
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Thank you for sharing your experience in detail.

I have decided to buy SR5004 and hopefully I will get it soon. I was looking for similar thread for previous Models and found out there is a common thread for Marantz SR5003/6003/7003/8003. 6004 has some added features over 5004, even the official Marantz manual for both is same with special comments for 6004.

I was wondering if you can change the title to SR5004/6004 (I haven't seen 7 & 8 yet) and also accommodate 5004 here or do you suggest me to start a new thread just for SR5004?

They are pretty similar and will inevitably share a lot of the same questions/issues. I changed the title of the first post, but the mods will need to adjust the title.

i did not realize the 5004 was even out yet - my dealers were saying October.
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SO has the SR6004 solve the HDMI handshake issues?
Sometime it made me crazy with the 6003 handshake problem....

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SO has the SR6004 solve the HDMI handshake issues?
Sometime it made me crazy with the 6003 handshake problem....

I have not exeperienced any. For reference I am going out to an 8G Pioneer Kuro and have a marantz bd7004, oppo bdp83, and Onkyo hd-dv805 going into the marantz SR6004.
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Hi thanks for the great information so far.

I'm wondering what the differences would be for me between the 6003 and the 6004. (or even the 5004).

In my case, I use a PS3 as my Blu-ray player, so the only other HDMI input is the cable box. 95% of the movies I watch are blu-ray, so all lossless codecs, but from the PS3 it will be lpcm anyway, I believe. Setup as 5.1, perhaps 7.1 in the future but all of these are capable of that. I have no interest in iphone/ipod, BT capabilities. I plan on using the Audyssey auto-setup features. One of the volume-compression algorithms for night-time movie watching or game playing when the spouse is asleep would be nice also.

I'm of course figuring there will be some deep discounts on the 6003, which will make me consider if the upgrades to the 6004 will be something I would even make use of. There is the 10W/ch of course, but the 100W/ch rating on the 6003 is supposedly conservative anyway, so it should be sufficient. Room is not overly large. Main seating is 7' back from a 67" tv with about 20 feet of open room behind the seating. Room is about 15' wide. So long narrow room with television at one narrow end. Are there any known problems with the x003/x0004 series and the PS3? I typically use the 1080p/24 output to the TV when watching BR discs.

Thanks for any help. I'm frequently discouraged when trying to compare receivers, and the higher end ones just seem to add more features that I won't be using anyway, instead of adding more watts and better sound quality (which is what I'm really interested in.)

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Well, after just one week of use, my SR6004 just died. I was watching college football game day and there was a slight pop and the receiver went into protect mode. Piece! Only lasted 8 days!!!!

Should have stuck with Onkyo.
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keep us updated...


was thinking about getting one.

currently own pioneer vsx-94thx
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keep us updated...


was thinking about getting one.

currently own pioneer vsx-94thx

Thing just blew up on me. slight smell of smoke. was watching football over optical from cable box. can't get it out of protect mode. dealer is exchanging it on monday. not happy. have owned a dozen onkyos and this was my first (and probably last) marantz.
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one thing i am curious about from other 6004 owner (whose units are still functioning!) - how warm does your unit run?
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Thing just blew up on me. slight smell of smoke. was watching football over optical from cable box. can't get it out of protect mode. dealer is exchanging it on monday. not happy. have owned a dozen onkyos and this was my first (and probably last) marantz.

That's unfortunate - hopefully it doesn't prove to be a systemic problem with 6004s, and is just an issue with the one you received - which, perhaps not coincidentally, must've been one of the very first 6004s sold and delivered.

While the switch-out is a little PITA, it's a reminder of why it's nice to have a warranty. BTW, I wouldn't be quick to conclude Marantz are inferior to Onkyo or cheaply built products... from what I gather from owners on AVS and elsewhere, they're well built and well liked products - at least all the way up through the xxx3 models (too early to call with the xxx4s).
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That's unfortunate - hopefully it doesn't prove to be a systemic problem with 6004s, and is just an issue with the one you received - which, perhaps not coincidentally, must've been one of the very first 6004s sold and delivered.

While the switch-out is a little PITA, it's a reminder of why it's nice to have a warranty. BTW, I wouldn't be quick to conclude Marantz are inferior to Onkyo or cheaply built products... from what I gather from owners on AVS and elsewhere, they're well built and well liked products - at least all the way up through the xxx3 models (too early to call with the xxx4s).

I am going to avoid rash decisions regarding build quality, but this has been a huge disappointment in large part because I bought this in large part based upon the perception of quality. I have owned a dozen onkyos and there have been issues - boards going bad and even poor soldering.

This is the first receiver I have owned that has died in less than 2 weeks of ownership. All of my speakers are 8ohms and i do not push amps hard.
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Hi thanks for the great information so far.

I'm wondering what the differences would be for me between the 6003 and the 6004. (or even the 5004).

In my case, I use a PS3 as my Blu-ray player, so the only other HDMI input is the cable box. 95% of the movies I watch are blu-ray, so all lossless codecs, but from the PS3 it will be lpcm anyway, I believe. Setup as 5.1, perhaps 7.1 in the future but all of these are capable of that. I have no interest in iphone/ipod, BT capabilities. I plan on using the Audyssey auto-setup features. One of the volume-compression algorithms for night-time movie watching or game playing when the spouse is asleep would be nice also.

I'm of course figuring there will be some deep discounts on the 6003, which will make me consider if the upgrades to the 6004 will be something I would even make use of. There is the 10W/ch of course, but the 100W/ch rating on the 6003 is supposedly conservative anyway, so it should be sufficient. Room is not overly large. Main seating is 7' back from a 67" tv with about 20 feet of open room behind the seating. Room is about 15' wide. So long narrow room with television at one narrow end. Are there any known problems with the x003/x0004 series and the PS3? I typically use the 1080p/24 output to the TV when watching BR discs.

Thanks for any help. I'm frequently discouraged when trying to compare receivers, and the higher end ones just seem to add more features that I won't be using anyway, instead of adding more watts and better sound quality (which is what I'm really interested in.)

I'm very interested to here opinions on this question as well...
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I'm very interested to here opinions on this question as well...


the big step up features of the 6004 are pliiz processing and dynamic volume. the wattage is probably just revised marketing considering the weight, power consumption, and incremental increase only.

I loved my 6004 before it DIED after only 8 days.

By the way...you HEAR with your EAR. here is a place.
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the big step up features of the 6004 are pliiz processing and dynamic volume. the wattage is probably just revised marketing considering the weight, power consumption, and incremental increase only.

I loved my 6004 before it DIED after only 8 days.

By the way...you HEAR with your EAR. here is a place.

LOL...I'm very aware of that fact. Maybe next time I'll proof my post before submitting it. ;o)

Thanks for your comments. Good luck with the new unit when it arrives.
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Good luck with the new unit when it arrives.

Amen - fingers crossed!!!
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Yes, I'll be interested to hear more. I guess I asked my question at a bad time, since the only AVS forum member who owns a 6004 just had it blow out on him. Can't expect very good response in that situation...
Or... Perhaps in its own way, this reponse is indicating I should just go with a 6003 on closeout

Regardless, good luck with the new unit.

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How is the Video chipset in the 6004 ? Useful or useless ?
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How is the Video chipset in the 6004 ? Useful or useless ?

In preliminary tests it falls more towards the useless category. before my 6004 died on me, i did run a dvd in source direct and found it pretty average in deinterlacing. i did not have time to run synthetic tests. hopefully i will be getting my new unit today and will be able to re-test tomorrow.
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Winston are you getting another 6004?, I sold the 6003.
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Winston are you getting another 6004?, I sold the 6003.

llep, what will you be replacing the 6003 with ? why did you sell it if I may ask
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long story short. It replced a sr7001, but somehow the sound was different, not better or worst ,just different, I found it kind of "thin", but this is just me. I will get an 8001 instead.
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long story short. It replced a sr7001, but somehow the sound was different, not better or worst ,just different, I found it kind of "thin", but this is just me. I will get an 8001 instead.

the thin sound might be the lack of thx processing. thx tends to amp up the bassy thud of things - right or wrong
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