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The Onkyo TX NR1007 is near the top of Onkyo's 2009 AV Receiver lineup and the least expensive receiver to offer 9 amplifiers, offering 9.2 playback via height or wide speakers to supplement a traditional 7.1 setup. Please note that only a 7.1 + Height or 7.1 + Wide configuration is possible. It is my understanding that the 3007 and 5007 share this limitation.

The NR1007 shares the wattage rating of the 807 at 135 watts per channel, but the 1007 has lower THD (.05% vs .08% in the 807) and can drive the eighth and ninth channel. The added amplification brings more power consumption (a staggering 11.6a) and weight (just under 52lbs). For reference the 3007 weighs 3 more lbs. While I will get into it in more detail later in the audio performance section, the 1007 appears to have more head room than the 807 and has power levels very similar to my 876, but not quite as hammer-dropping as my 906.

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Why buy the 1007 over the 807?
First and foremost, the 1007 is a 9.2 Receiver whereas the 807 is only 7.2. Although the 807 can be configured to run height, wide, or surround back speakers, it only has 7 amps, which basically forces you to choose one of the three configurations. The 1007 is the least expensive Onkyo (and possibly all brands) receivers with 9 amps. That said, Onkyo' configuration limits you to either front or wide and surround backs.

The 1007 is also THX Ultra2 certified, the 807 is Select2.

In regards to build, they are very different. The 1007 is heavier in the front a la my 906 with the power supply in the middle front. the hcps is on the left side of the 807. this and other components make the 1007 more front heavy, whereas the 807 is more back heavy. They layout of the boards are completely different as well for the most part - this is visible through the top vents.

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The 1007 more closely matche the back panel of my 906/876 and the 807 shares the back panel with the previous 806. The position of the hdmi inputs is the easiest to tell.

Why Buy the 3007 over the 1007?
Better Video processing via Reon HQV XV Chip
Front USB port and HDMI input
5 more watts per channel
One more video input (aux 2)

Can the 1007 (or any Onkyo) output both wide and height simultaneously
No. Only receiver that can on the market at the moment appears to the Denon AVR4810. Please see earlier posts regarding setups possible.

How does the upscaling compare?
Please see post #5

Can I assign HDMI inputs to audio only inputs (ie Phono, CD)?
Yes - any unused HDMI input can be assigned to any input.

Does the display overlay over 1080p 24fps?
Yes, you can see volume, audio track and bit rate and video resolution.
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Onkyo has come a long way since its black and white GUI I remember in my TX SR804. The same basic layout applies and any one familiar with an Onkyo setup menu will not have trouble navigating the menu. The 1007 allows for resolutions to be adjusted per input with the ISF CCC adjustments. HDMI inputs are assignable to any input including audio only inputs like phono and cd. Two important additions to the menu are the remote programming menu and the firmware upgrade option.

The remote programming menu is probably one of the best unsung features of the higher end xx7 series. Compared to my marantz, it's the difference of NASA versus the Congolese Space Program (yes it exists). The onkyo allows you to search my manufacturer and type (ie Marantz, BD Player) and it will automatically synch you remote for that source. It even has a "did it work?" prompt to try another code. Most importantly, the interactive programming includes remote codes that do not exist in the manual.
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The 1007 brings a new dynamic to the equation in offering height or width presence via Dolby PLiiz or Audyssey DSX Height or Width. For purists, you avoid the concern that post processing on lossless codecs to offer these spatial contexts comes at the price of forfeiting the surround rears. My general thought on using Dolby PLiiz with my Marantz SR6004 and Onkyo TX NR807 has been, "well, it depends." I would look at its real benefit in the equation being analoguous to adding surround rears. Occasionally in certain scenes, they really add a neat presence feeling. That said, for the majority other time they are largely unused in normal usage, particularly with television. My comments are not intended to cause controversy, just offer one opinion in the mix.

The 1007 offers the ability to add height or width to the equation without the sacrifice of the surround rears. This 9.1 setup offers a really neat effect in certain movies. Die Hard 4 is a great example. The DTS HD MA 7.1 soundtrack takes on a new life in the ridiculous jet/truck scene. I am going to reconfigure shortly and give Audyssey DSX Wide a spin - just need the wife to leave town for a few hours!

Overall, the 1007's sound is very impressive. In a small room, I do not think you could tell the 807 from the 1007, but in my rather wide den with lots of open space, the 1007 really shows its muscles. It is currently occupying the space of a 906 and might be a hair less powerful than the 906, but only at higher volumes (+2 to +7). Listening to two channel audio it has a very similar feeling to my 876.

Music playback is good, but tends to have the rather thuddy sound of THX Processing I have been informed of by my Marantz. The quality is very good and detail reproduction is excellent. I had to try out the Last Waltz blu ray and really enjoyed the Dolby Digital 5.1 soundtrack, though I did turn off the PLIIz for a bit. It seemed to throw off some vocals, and I don't want the ghost of Rick Danko mad at me.

More to come as I get more time with this beast!
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Using S&M's synthetic Deinterlacing tests and source-direct from a bd player:

Test Denon AVR-2310ci Pioneer KuroOnkyo TX NR1007 Onkyo TX NR807 Onkyo TX NR906 Marantz SR6004
ABT 2010 Unknown Farjouda DCDi Cinema Farjouda DCDi Cinema Reon HQV VX I Chips
2:02 Pass Fail Fail Fail PENDING N/A**
2:2:2:4 Pass* Pass* Pass* Pass* N/A**
2:3:2:3 (PF-T) Pass Pass* Pass* Pass* N/A**
2:3:2:3 Pass pass* Pass Pass N/A**
2:3:3:2 Pass* Pass* Pass* Pass* N/A**
3:2:3:2:2 Pass Fail Fail Fail N/A**
5:05 Pass Marginal Fail Fail N/A**
6:04 Pass Marginal Fail Fail N/A**
8:7:8:7 Pass Pass Fail Fail N/A**
24p - pass Pass Pass Pass Pass N/A**
Time-adjusted Pass Fail Fail Fail N/A**
Ship Jaggies Pass Marginal Marginal Marginal N/A**

* denotes lock-on in second sequence
**Receiver lacks ability to scale digital signals
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Waiting for your input on this receiver. I am deciding betweent this and the NR807. Hopefully I can decide if it is worth the $300 price difference
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Waiting for your input on this receiver. I am deciding betweent this and the NR807. Hopefully I can decide if it is worth the $300 price difference

my 807 is great but I would rather have the 1007, I guess it would depend how much value the $300 is to you compared to the added features of the 1007
THX Ultra plus
Audyssey MultEQ XT
Capable of driving 9.2 (7.2 + wides or heights) vrs my 807's 7.2 only choices.
correctly drving dual subs with individual adjusments and EQ

there may be more but these are enough for me to make the choice
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my 807 is great but I would rather have the 1007, I guess it would depend how much value the $300 is to you compared to the added features of the 1007
THX Ultra plus
Audyssey MultEQ XT
Capable of driving 9.2 (7.2 + wides or heights) vrs my 807's 7.2 only choices.
correctly drving dual subs with individual adjusments and EQ

there may be more but these are enough for me to make the choice

Do it for the higher resolution MultEQ XT alone. Your subwoofer thanks you for it.

As far as I'm concerned the NR-1007 is what the 806 SHOULD have been
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Heheheh, I know but I am already blowing my budget with the 807 (I was set on getting a Pioneer Elite VSX03TXH or the Pioneer Elite VSX21TXH both under $500 I just got a set of Paradigm Studio 60s V2 and I still need the center and not enough $$$ for all But I can stay a little bit longer with the cc200 center chanel and get the NR1007 and save for the center. I currently have a TX-SR606 and I do not think it is enough for the studio 60's
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Waiting for your input on this receiver. I am deciding betweent this and the NR807. Hopefully I can decide if it is worth the $300 price difference

I will have both in my house in just a few days!!!
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I was this >*< close to ordering the 1007 this week but decided it would be best to pick up the 3007 instead. That one should be more widely available in a few weeks.

I look forward to your impressions, Winston.

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I am struggling with deciding between the 1007 and the 3007. I would be interested to hear the arguments for or against either!

I am leaning toward the 1007 at the moment. Am I missing something?

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Winston,
I agree that the TX-NR1007 at this time seems to be a cut above. Comprehensive decoding abilities and ProLogic IIz/9.1 cheapest AV Receiver out there.

By a long shot.

Someone was asking about the Pioneers. Gasp... they're not (yet) in this price/performance league. Even the newer Denons don't have anything that stacks up against this if it works as billed (and I'm watching this thread to read your review to find out). I'm exhaustively researching for a 9.x thorough codec AVR, and the video processing is not that big of an issue as my projector has onboard processing, so I just want a clean pass through anyway.

This seems to fit the bill (but I can't recall how the newer connection options work on it... internet radio streaming/mp3 player connectivity?).

Hope this is as good as it looks on paper.
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I am struggling with deciding between the 1007 and the 3007. I would be interested to hear the arguments for or against either!

I am leaning toward the 1007 at the moment. Am I missing something?

I have had serious consideration to picking up the 1007. Thinking about it more and more there were a couple of seemingly small things that put the 3007 over the 1007 for me. Things like the very minute step in power and stuff like Dolby Volume are negligable additions to me, personally. What I felt I could benefit from, and feel comfortable spending an additional $400 on, was an HDMI on the front (which there is none of on the 1007) and the Reon scaler. At first, I didn't think I would need to care about a scaler since pretty much all my sources are HD these days. Then I thought about it more. Not every HD source is 1080p. There is still a good amount of 720p stuff and cable will be in 1080i much of the time. Best to have a higher quality scaler on hand. At least, that's what has got me going for the 3007 now. The 3007 also has a USB input that could be useful too.

The 1007 has all the goods though....

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Good points Scott. Thnx

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Scott:

If you're considering going TX-NR3007, MSRP $2099, wouldn't/shouldn't you instead go for the Integra DHC-80.1, MSRP $2300?
http://forums.soundandvisionmag.com/...d.php?p=631713

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WHOOPS! Sorry. The DHC-80.1 is only a pre/pro. The corresponding AVReceiver, the Integra DTR-80.1 has MSRP of $2800. http://www.twice.com/article/339437-...oad_Launch.php
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Yup. I need an amp too.

$2,800 is quite a bit more than I want to spend on an AVR. If I am going to spend that kind of money, I would probably pick up a Yamaha Z11 instead.

Thanks for looking out for me, though.

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Scott:

If you're considering going TX-NR3007, MSRP $2099, wouldn't/shouldn't you instead go for the Integra DHC-80.1, MSRP $2300?
http://forums.soundandvisionmag.com/...d.php?p=631713

Thoughts?

WHOOPS! Sorry. The DHC-80.1 is only a pre/pro. The corresponding AVReceiver, the Integra DTR-80.1 has MSRP of $2800. http://www.twice.com/article/339437-...oad_Launch.php

Don't forget, you'll have trouble getting much of a discount on the integras, while the onkyos can be found with deep discounts. Comparing MSRP between the 2 brands isn't really apples for apples
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I am glad Winston is doing a review on the 1007. It does seem like the "left out" receiver of the bunch. I will add a "my take" this weekend and mention how it compares to the 807 and 3007... I think the 1007 is not chop liver and deserves some plugs.

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I am glad Winston is doing a review on the 1007. It does seem like the "left out" receiver of the bunch. I will add a "my take" this weekend and mention how it compares to the 807 and 3007... I think the 1007 is not chop liver and deserves some plugs.

Wait.... do you have the 3007 already, Joe?

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For anyone doing a comparison of the 807 and the 1007, if you have a kill-a-watt meter, would it be possible to do a measure of actual power draw?

I'm concerned about needing to re-wire another circuit to handle the rated power draw of the 1007.

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Let me know what you guys think of your TX-NR1007 since I am considering buying one or perhaps the 3007 or Denon....still thinking.....thanks guys!!
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I was just looking at the 1007 features and was wondering if anyone could tell me the difference between Dolby PLIIz and Audyssey DSX? Don't they do essentially the same thing? Would you expect one to sound better than the other? I guess this really is a question for an audio thread of some sort but I was curious if you all had any thoughts?
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Wait.... do you have the 3007 already, Joe?

Yes, I have had it for a little bit. I was planning to do it next but I got about 15 to 20 requests asking for a 1007 review so I am going to do something on it. I figured since I have went in order (pretty much) to date I might as well keep going... I won't do a long review just a "my take" on it. Winston is in charge of the "full" review.

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I was just looking at the 1007 features and was wondering if anyone could tell me the difference between Dolby PLIIz and Audyssey DSX? Don't they do essentially the same thing? Would you expect one to sound better than the other? I guess this really is a question for an audio thread of some sort but I was curious if you all had any thoughts?

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Let me know what you guys think of your TX-NR1007 since I am considering buying one or perhaps the 3007 or Denon....still thinking.....thanks guys!!

My "winter" receiver will be either the 1007, 3007 or Denon 4810... Only time will tell.

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My "winter" receiver will be either the 1007, 3007 or Denon 4810... Only time will tell.

Get back to me which one you picked if you could please! Thanks. The 4810 is quite a bit more than the Onkyo's though but people say because Onkyo's use cheaper parts and video processors!! Not sure about that but ok
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Get back to me which one you picked if you could please! Thanks. The 4810 is quite a bit more than the Onkyo's though but people say because Onkyo's use cheaper parts and video processors!! Not sure about that but ok

I think Onkyo with the REON chip in the 3007 and 5007 is as good as it gets for receivers. Also, the THX Ultra 2 Cinema modes have always been my sweet spot. The 4810 without it may have a more negative effect for me at least. Especially since I (we) really like THX Loudness Plus... Just some extra thoughts...

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