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william06's Avatar william06 09:15 AM 12-23-2009
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Originally Posted by richardyc View Post

did you use the correct firmware for the 3007? the link from this thread is for the 5007, which could be a totally different file.

Mabey that is why i had no problem. I just went into menu and hit update and it started. If there is none available it just says no up date. I have no problems and runs a bit smmother and clicks all but gone.

Ewingr's Avatar Ewingr 11:09 AM 12-23-2009
For anyone trying to program discrete codes into your remotes: From the spreadsheet linked in the first post a few codes are listed in the thread as not working. In my case I find that I cannot get the followng ones to work either:
  • THX Cinema
  • THX Music
  • THX Surround EX
  • THX Ultra2/Select2 Cinema/Cinema2

I also find that if I put one of the wrap codes into my remote, it works, but it doesn't cycle through 1 code at a time. It skips one. So for example, when I press it, it flashes one mode, then skips to the next one. Does the same thing if I learn that code from teh Onkyo remote. Interesting...

[EDIT]
Well, I have just determined that on that last statement, the problem is if I put a Macro on a Favorite button (that's the only way I can get it on a FAV button is to use a macro pointing to the code on another existing button), that is when it doubles the output. Learning it on another button directly, it works fine. But I do find the ones bulleted above still do not work. I get "Not Available" on my display when I use them.

I'll post on the Remotes forum here about my double output.



I'm programming them into a HTM MX-800.
mdlawler's Avatar mdlawler 01:41 PM 12-23-2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ewingr View Post

For anyone trying to program discrete codes into your remotes: From the spreadsheet linked in the first post a few codes are listed in the thread as not working. In my case I find that I cannot get the followng ones to work either:
  • THX Cinema
  • THX Music
  • THX Surround EX
  • THX Ultra2/Select2 Cinema/Cinema2

I also find that if I put one of the wrap codes into my remote, it works, but it doesn't cycle through 1 code at a time. It skips one. So for example, when I press it, it flashes one mode, then skips to the next one. Does the same thing if I learn that code from teh Onkyo remote. Interesting...

[EDIT]
Well, I have just determined that on that last statement, the problem is if I put a Macro on a Favorite button (that's the only way I can get it on a FAV button is to use a macro pointing to the code on another existing button), that is when it doubles the output. Learning it on another button directly, it works fine. But I do find the ones bulleted above still do not work. I get "Not Available" on my display when I use them.

I'll post on the Remotes forum here about my double output.



I'm programming them into a HTM MX-800.

I have the HTM MX-700. How do you program codes like the ones in the first post in hex in to it? Note that I am blind so can't do everythin with the HTM software on my own so might need some help with it. I haven't found a way to enter hex codes in to it.
trallala's Avatar trallala 03:43 PM 12-23-2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ewingr View Post

For anyone trying to program discrete codes into your remotes: From the spreadsheet linked in the first post a few codes are listed in the thread as not working. In my case I find that I cannot get the followng ones to work either:
  • THX Cinema
  • THX Music
  • THX Surround EX
  • THX Ultra2/Select2 Cinema/Cinema2
...

Hi, for THX Cinema and THX Music, I use the following codes: (from the excel spreadsheet)

D219 D4 PLII/PLIIx THX Music
0000 006c 0022 0002 0156 00ac 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0020 0619 0156 0056 0020 0E54

D219 D8 PLII/PLIIx THX Cinema
0000 006c 0022 0002 0156 00ac 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0041 0015 0016 0015 0016 0020 0619 0156 0056 0020 0E54

I don't know what kind of format/audio input you need to use the "pure" THX Ultra2/Select2 Cinema/Cinema2 setting -- or if the PL2 modes listed above is just as good.

edit:

I just noticed the PLII/THX codes above didn't work when the source format was 5.1 dolby digital. Too bad if you need to program two THX Cinema buttons on your harmony remote depending on weather you are watching 2 chan TV or a 5.1 DVD (that is, if you don't want to cycle Movie/TV modes like the original remote).

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Originally Posted by rickardl View Post

Speaking of discrete codes, one that you might want to add is "Straight Decode".

I'll try this one, thanks.
rickardl's Avatar rickardl 04:23 PM 12-23-2009
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Originally Posted by richardyc View Post

did you use the correct firmware for the 3007? the link from this thread is for the 5007, which could be a totally different file.

It is the same files in the zip for 3007/5007 from the US site
(http://www.us.onkyo.com/download/software.cfm)
http://63.148.251.135/redirect_servi...REHAHA_106.zip
as from the international/EU site:
5007: http://avrupd.onkyo.com/AVR0001/ONKA...REHAHA_106.zip
3007: http://avrupd.onkyo.com/AVR0001/ONKA...REHAHA_106.zip
5507: http://avrupd.onkyo.com/AVR0001/ONKA...REHAHA_106.zip

They are the same.

If you use the network option, you are on your own. I can't verify those.
rickardl's Avatar rickardl 04:28 PM 12-23-2009
Speaking of discrete codes, one that you might want to add is "Straight Decode".
chexi1's Avatar chexi1 05:05 PM 12-23-2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by rickardl View Post

It is the same files in the zip for 3007/5007 from the US site
(http://www.us.onkyo.com/download/software.cfm)
http://63.148.251.135/redirect_servi...REHAHA_106.zip
as from the international/EU site:
5007: http://avrupd.onkyo.com/AVR0001/ONKA...REHAHA_106.zip
3007: http://avrupd.onkyo.com/AVR0001/ONKA...REHAHA_106.zip
5507: http://avrupd.onkyo.com/AVR0001/ONKA...REHAHA_106.zip

They are the same.

If you use the network option, you are on your own. I can't verify those.

What Rickard said.

Things seem to be working so far today. No audio drop outs yet, but I have not had much time to test.
maxruss's Avatar maxruss 03:55 AM 12-24-2009
Update via USB took 30 min, clicking still there but very quiet and ways less annoying.
amt's Avatar amt 08:27 AM 12-24-2009
I played around with comparing scaler chips yesterday, and this is how I would rank my equipment, scaling SD to HD, best to worst:

1) Oppo bdp-83 (DVDO)
2) Pioneer FPJ1 - JVC RS2 (Gennum VXP)
3) Onkyo TX-NR5007 (Reon HQV)

Onkyo is by far the worst. The most obvious way I can show this is text from DirecTV's OSD when sent at 480p. The text had all sorts of blotches around them, like nasty jpeg artifacts. I then tested the Oppo blu-ray player, first with "source direct", which sends 480i out for DVDs. The Onkyo still looked "bad", but the Pioneer FPJ1 looked better (also checked the OSD for DirectTV and looked far better on the FPJ1). I then changed the Oppo to upscale to 1080p. This looked better than both the Onkyo and the FPJ1 doing the scaling. However, there is some ringing.

I wish I had not sold my Lumagen HDP Pro. I did not realize at the time I could completely bypass the Onkyo's video processing. It had the best up-scaling performance, but when I was using it (without video processing bypass in the 5007) it would sense odd changes in the video signal and would try to re-sync the signal, which never happened before I owned the 5007. My best guess is that the 5007 was sending small blips of garbage once in a while which was confusing the HDP.
rickardl's Avatar rickardl 08:46 AM 12-24-2009
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Originally Posted by amt View Post

...
The most obvious way I can show this is text from DirecTV's OSD when sent at 480p. The text had all sorts of blotches around them, like nasty jpeg artifacts.
...

I have never seen anything like that. It sounds like you have bad/defect unit. I would return it.
amt's Avatar amt 11:08 AM 12-24-2009
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Originally Posted by rickardl View Post

I have never seen anything like that. It sounds like you have bad/defect unit. I would return it.

I think this is something that a lot of people would not notice. I am projecting on a 9.5 foot wide screen and sit at 1.3x screen width. I really doubt there's a problem with the scaler that affects things like text, but everything else in the video path works just fine. It's been over 30 days, so I can't return, and there's no way in hell I am sending it in for repair based on the horror stories here.

Another thought: I have not scrutinized a lot of other 480i/p sources with text like the DirecTV GUI has, so maybe I should to see if this is something that is related to the DirecTV only. FWIW, I don't plan on using the video processing on the 5007 anyway, as its HDCP syncing is too damn slow. I am basically waiting for the right time to get a used Lumagen, as IMO, there is nothing that comes close to its capabilities.

Luckily I choose the 5007 not based on its VP performance, but rather the 3 separate power supplies and the DACs, so I am not really disappointed.
Ewingr's Avatar Ewingr 06:14 PM 12-24-2009
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Originally Posted by mdlawler View Post

I have the HTM MX-700. How do you program codes like the ones in the first post in hex in to it? Note that I am blind so can't do everythin with the HTM software on my own so might need some help with it. I haven't found a way to enter hex codes in to it.

I presume that you have the MX Editor Software. I have MX-800 Editor Version 1.12.288. With that there is a couple ways you can get the HEX programmed.

If you have the software with this, you can select the Universal Browser icon, which is the second from far right icon. Looks like a YellowCircle/Green Triangle/Pink Square. When that opens you will see a Hex icon on the top of that window. Paste the HEX code in there, and then the window you are pasting into has a DRAG icon. Drag that to the button you want to put it on. NOTE: You cannot put that on FAVORITES. Favorites must use macros to work.

If you don't have that HEX window, then the other solution is a bit more involved. Get ProntoEdit, and use that to put the pronto codes into a Pronto file, then you can open that in the MX Editor software, and drag the pronto codes to the HTM remote's buttons. If you need to go this route, the instructions are at the end of the PDF manual with the software. If you don't have that PDF, I can arrange to get it to you.
Ewingr's Avatar Ewingr 06:20 PM 12-24-2009
[quote=trallala;17778225]Hi, for THX Cinema and THX Music, I use the following codes:...QUOTE]

Thanks I'll give them a try. I think I used the same one for Music that you did but now need to re-try. I had used D219DA for THX Cinema, simply because that is the title in the description columnt: THX Cinema.

I'll post back how it goes.

Related to programming Discrete: It is beginning to look to me like each various setting has completely different discrete codes. By this I mean, for example, If I select Zone2, and Net, the up, down, left, right appear to be discrete for that setting, To do the various things I may want may require more modes/buttons than I have.
Ewingr's Avatar Ewingr 06:22 PM 12-24-2009
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Originally Posted by rickardl View Post

Speaking of discrete codes, one that you might want to add is "Straight Decode".


What does Straight Decode do? By it's name, I would assume Direct, but then there is also a Direct one too.
Chorca's Avatar Chorca 07:31 PM 12-24-2009
Here's a question that I can't seem to find the answer to anywhere.. Does this receiver have WMAPro support? I'm outputting WMAPro to it from my Popcorn Hour but it just goes to the default analog mode when i try to play a file containing that audio format.

I've looked through the manual and searched online and in the forums here, but I haven't seen any info about it. Anyone know if it's supported?
maxruss's Avatar maxruss 06:26 AM 12-25-2009
One thing which was a little disappointment is that 5007 does not output or recognize RGB video signal on its component inputs. I use a Topfield SAT receiver who is uncapable of proper component output, so prior to 5007 I have been commuting its RGB signal via SCART-RGB 3RCA cable. But Onkyo cannot tell RGB flow.
trallala's Avatar trallala 12:03 PM 12-25-2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chorca View Post

Here's a question that I can't seem to find the answer to anywhere.. Does this receiver have WMAPro support? I'm outputting WMAPro to it from my Popcorn Hour but it just goes to the default analog mode when i try to play a file containing that audio format.

I've looked through the manual and searched online and in the forums here, but I haven't seen any info about it. Anyone know if it's supported?

I tried WMAPro in win7 (right click speaker icon\\output devices\\some tab or other) and received a "Not supported" message (not that I think it matters, but my HTPC is still running the win7 trial/beta).

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ewingr View Post

Hi, for THX Cinema and THX Music, I use the following codes:...QUOTE]

Thanks I'll give them a try. I think I used the same one for Music that you did but now need to re-try. I had used D219DA for THX Cinema, simply because that is the title in the description columnt: THX Cinema.
...

I missed your post before I edited mine above. Anyway, the PLII "THX" code i posted didn't work when I was watching DD 5.1 content.

I have asked logitech to add straight decode to my onkyo. Hopefully it is the mode to rule them all.
xantari's Avatar xantari 01:11 PM 12-25-2009
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Originally Posted by rickardl View Post

Relay clicking occurs for me when I channel surf from a DD 5.1 channel
to a channel with 2.0 audio. But not from 2.0 to 5.1.

I am also experiencing the relay clicking and it's very annoying. It happens a LOT during commericials while watching satellite TV. I'm half tempted to go back to my old receiver, there was NO clicking until I switched video inputs (Onkyo TX-DS797). Even playing the XBOX 360 there is periodic clicks depending on what you do in the UI.

I imagine this is going to dramatically shorten the life of the relays in this receiver. Does anyone have a fix yet?!? I'd hate to pay for shipping to send this thing back!
CBdicX's Avatar CBdicX 11:09 PM 12-25-2009
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Originally Posted by xantari View Post

I am also experiencing the relay clicking and it's very annoying. It happens a LOT during commericials while watching satellite TV. I'm half tempted to go back to my old receiver, there was NO clicking until I switched video inputs (Onkyo TX-DS797). Even playing the XBOX 360 there is periodic clicks depending on what you do in the UI.

I imagine this is going to dramatically shorten the life of the relays in this receiver. Does anyone have a fix yet?!? I'd hate to pay for shipping to send this thing back!

I have no clicks at all.
What i did is set every audio mode for TV to All Ch ST and for DVD/BD
to PLIIx Audyssey DSX (these are just my personal choises)
This way it makes no clicks as you force the Onkyo to use specific modes.

When i play with the listening mode buttons on the remote its clicking away...........
CBdicX's Avatar CBdicX 11:52 PM 12-25-2009
I have the 3007 with vTuner Internet radio.
From time to time it will go to the next station in the list.
This happens when the stream is interupted.
Some stations have this "problem" more then others but i do not understand why the Onkyo switches to the next in the list.
Why will it not reload the current station ?
And i can not find any setting to turn this switching on or off.............

I like to make my own choises if i want the Onkyo to switch or not
desray2k's Avatar desray2k 01:54 AM 12-26-2009
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Originally Posted by nathanyael View Post

So finally I found the solution to my problem.. and it wasn't the 3007's fault...

There's a menu point in the Denon 3910 setup where you can switch HDMI Multichannel to HDMI 2-ch audio output. Strangely enough, only if you set it to HDMI 2-ch the analog audio output is activated...

I was totally blown away by the sound quality (tested it with Sting's A Brand New Day SACD and a Dire Straits piece)! Simply amazing!!!

I just wanted to mention that I experienced no audio dropouts of any kind so far... whether analog, HDMI or anything else...

I had a different problem with a USB WD My Passport on which I store most of my music. While playing it via USB of the 3007 it just stopped some time after playing and reverted itself to the status of the first file on the WD... AFTER formatting the external drive to the FAT32 format everything runs perfectly smooth... before that the drive had a NTFS formatting.

I am having problem with SACD playback - there's no multichannel sound even though the SACD has 5.1 track embedded in it...I am using Denon DVD 3930 Player and have exhausted pretty much every conceivable resolves like updating the Denon 3930 DVD Player to the latest firmware - no joy in that...as well as the latest firmware from Onkyo - again no joy!

As we all know that SACD is a hybrid disc containing 2 layers...the CD layer (only 2 channel) and multi-channel layer (5.1 sound track)...if I switched to CD mode, I am able to hear sound from the speakers albeit 2 channel only...but there's simply no way I can get 5.1 channel to work with my Onkyo TX-NR3007 AVR

Anyone has an experience with either Denon 3930 DVD Player with NR3007, NR1007 or NR5007 AVR? Pls comment.

Pls note that I am not talking about getting 2 channel sound when the Multi-channel mode is been selected at Denon 3930 end...there's NO SOUND at all...only when I switched to 2 CD layer of the SACD disc do I get sound out

This is frustrating...and I'm not sure which one is at fault here...Denon 3930 DVD Player or Onkyo TX-NR3007? Sighz...Any solution to my problem will be appreciated. Thanks!
rickardl's Avatar rickardl 03:04 AM 12-26-2009
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Originally Posted by Ewingr View Post

What does Straight Decode do? By it's name, I would assume Direct, but then there is also a Direct one too.

Straight Decode only exists as a discrete remote command and it is not documented in the manual.
It is a quick command to select the "native" listening listening mode;
for Dolby Digital audio, it selects Dolby Digital as listening mode, for DTS, it select DTS, Dolby TrueHD selects Dolby TrueHD etc.
No upmixing, no fake all channel surround etc. Just the pure listening mode the sound was designed for.
The respective listening modes can also be selected by wading through the listening modes or using Listening Mode Preset.
Straight Decode is just a quick way of doing it from the remote.

There is no relation to Direct or Pure Audio.
These modes should only be used if you have had your acoustically treated
with things like bass traps, diffusors,
absorbing panels.


xantari's Avatar xantari 07:06 PM 12-26-2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by CBdicX View Post

I have no clicks at all.
What i did is set every audio mode for TV to All Ch ST and for DVD/BD
to PLIIx Audyssey DSX (these are just my personal choises)
This way it makes no clicks as you force the Onkyo to use specific modes.

When i play with the listening mode buttons on the remote its clicking away...........

Unfortunately I don't really like that solution because when i'm watching a DD 5.1 movie and I'm forced to watch it in "all speaker stereo" that kind of sucks doesn't it? Basically defeating the whole purpose of having a surround sound system anyways. Very wierd for Onkyo's supposed flag ship product.

Guess I'll research if the Denon's have this issue, and if not I'll send this one back and go for a Denon.
grunt11's Avatar grunt11 10:12 PM 12-26-2009
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Originally Posted by rickarkl View Post

There is no relation to Direct or Pure Audio.
These modes should only be used if you have had your acoustically treated
with things like bass traps, diffusors, absorbing panels.

Unless you prefer not to use sound processing or EQ for some things in which case using Direct or Pure Audio is fine because in the end it’s how it sounds to the user that matters.
rickardl's Avatar rickardl 04:27 AM 12-27-2009
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Originally Posted by grunt11 View Post

Unless you prefer not to use sound processing or EQ for some things in which case using Direct or Pure Audio is fine because in the end it's how it sounds to the user that matters.

Yes, as long as the listener is not fooled into thinking that Direct/Pure Audio by itself provides a "pure", clean, unaffected sound in an untreated room.
I get the feeling many use Direct/Pure Audio believing they will get a clean
sound and they simply doesn't grasp the impact the room has on the end result and they are mislead to believe that it should sound like that.
The old saying "Ignorance is bliss" comes to mind...
CBdicX's Avatar CBdicX 05:03 AM 12-27-2009
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Originally Posted by xantari View Post

Unfortunately I don't really like that solution because when i'm watching a DD 5.1 movie and I'm forced to watch it in "all speaker stereo" that kind of sucks doesn't it? Basically defeating the whole purpose of having a surround sound system anyways. Very wierd for Onkyo's supposed flag ship product.

Guess I'll research if the Denon's have this issue, and if not I'll send this one back and go for a Denon.

I do understand your point.

But why pay a lot of $$ for a 9.x receiver when you use half ?
I have all speakers hooked up so when i watch BD i use PLIIx DSX and front high, when i listen to music or watch TV i set iy to ALL CH ST and use front wide.
I have the wide speaker not beside the fronts but in my PC corner so i have also great sounding stereo there
Bit of a different use of the extra speakers but this way i use it to its full potential.
I do think when i use DD 5.1 or HDmaster and use it in that way, so not through PLIIx DSX, it sounds a bit stonger, more power full.
Think the up converting to DSX takes a bit power out off the channels.
So i am still a bit switching around the audio modes..........
Hugo S's Avatar Hugo S 07:21 AM 12-27-2009
Hi,

Quote:
Originally Posted by rickardl View Post

It is the same files in the zip for 3007/5007 from the US site
(http://www.us.onkyo.com/download/software.cfm)
http://63.148.251.135/redirect_servi...REHAHA_106.zip
as from the international/EU site:
5007: http://avrupd.onkyo.com/AVR0001/ONKA...REHAHA_106.zip

They are the same.

If you use the network option, you are on your own. I can't verify those.

Thks Rickard.

Hugo
CBdicX's Avatar CBdicX 08:53 AM 12-27-2009
Hi, thus anyone know how, or tried to remove the front flip down plate ?
richardyc's Avatar richardyc 09:08 AM 12-27-2009
finally added the 2 front height speakers to my HT, and did the audyssey setup again. I did notice one weird thing. When I am switching from audyssey dsx 9.2 wide mode by pressing the SP layout button on the remote to wide/SB to Height/SB to see which mode I'd like better, it would change 9.2w to 7.2 instead of 9.2H. When I press the display button on the remote, it is showing as 7.2, so it is not activating the 2 height channels. Does your unit do the same thing?
Ewingr's Avatar Ewingr 12:14 PM 12-27-2009
I am having prolems with my remote. Probably 'operator error'.

When I select Zone2, and do somethign, then later want to use it in the Main Zone, it is still on Zone 2. Given that teh zone selection button has selections only for Zone 2 and Zone 3, not Main, the only way I've been able to get it to main is pull the batteries.

My expectations are that when the red light behind Zone button goes out, it should be set for Main again. I think it was that way at first.

Any suggestions?
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