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post #301 of 630 Old 04-29-2010, 06:19 PM
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I just got this receiver hooked up. I'll have to say it holds its' own very well with my Pioneer Elite VSX-01TXH. I haven't done a room calibration yet, but I am very impressed with what I am hearing from SACD and DVD-A playback through the MC analogs as well as HDMI with pure direct. EQ looks easy enough to work with, but sure like what I am hearing so far with no adjustment. Have more comments question later.

EDIT: Calibrated the 765......I love this unit even if the GUI is archaic. It is simple to use, GEQ is great. Above all, plenty of power and it sounds fantastic!

I have an Onkyo DV-SP506 that will covert DSD to PCM at 176.4kHz. The Yamaha proudly displays that it receives it. MC DSD can also be sent from the Onkyo and it sounds awesome. Nothing on the Yamaha tells me DSD is converting to PCM but I assume it is.

No complaints here! Money well spent.....
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A couple of questions. Is any bass management applied to multichannel analog inputs?

Also for SACD via HDMI, Does your player have to be set to DSD or PCM?

This looks a like a great receiver. thanks -Jeffer

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^^^^^^^

For MC analog you will want to disable HDMI audio within the player. Once you do this, you'll need to configure the player's bass management features. You should see a menu with format (2ch, 5.1), speaker size, distance (possibly channel delay, level).

Depending on your speakers and sub you'll have to select the appropriate settings. For example, if your speakers are geared to high frequencies (small sats) and you have a sub-woofer, you would set the the speakers to small the sub-woofer to ON in the player. If you have a crossover setting in the player you can set it for 80 or 100. If there is no setting available it probably sets it automatically to 80 or 100.

For SACD over HDMI, leave the player set to DSD. The 765 will convert DSD to PCM. (The 765 will show that it is receiving DSD) I have an Onkyo SP506 that is able to convert DSD to 176.4 kHz PCM and send it to the receiver. You can try PCM or DSD over HDMI but in the end, the 765 is going to convert it to PCM anyway before hitting the speakers. Experiment with it and select the best sound.

And yes, this is a very capable receiver with clean sound and good power.
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All,
Does the 765 have an lpf of lfe setting?? Tried looking for it in the manual but couldn't find a setting
Thanks..
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I couldn't find the referenced wiredathome ps3 firmware update page so I decided to post how I did this here. This is how I updated the 765 to L034;

1) Burn the audio CD;

The RX-V565 firmware is available to download and this is the same firmware, as the firmware covers the 465/565 and 765. This can be downloaded via the yamaha-service.de site.

I used itunes on mac osx snow leopard to burn the audio CD. There are plenty of references online for how to do this.

I copied the downloaded firmware wav file into itunes and burned cd as;
  • Preferred speed 1x
  • choose audio
  • gap between songs none
  • no sound check
  • no cd text

2) Connect the optical cable between the ps3 and av4 optical input on the 765.

3) Change the PS3 settings to;

Music settings:
  • output frequency 44.1
  • bitmapping off
  • dynamic normaliser off

Sound settings:
  • use optical digital
  • taking all the dolby/dts etc *off* and only leaving the 2x linear PCM defaults.

(Remember to put all these settings back to normal after the update else you'll lose your surround sound!)

4) Follow the instructions in the firmware update instructions pdf, making sure that, when I switched the av receiver on, that I switched it on from the physical ac plug socket. (not the main switch on the av receiver itself)

5) Play the wav file on the PS3.

It worked fine for me from this point on, with the firmware being updated smoothly.
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Does the 765 have an lpf of lfe setting?? Tried looking for it in the manual but couldn't find a setting
Thanks..

I don't think it does. You can set the crossover frequency for speakers set to "small." Frequencies below this setting (ranges from 40hz to 200hz with a default of 80) will be sent to the sub. This is on p. 56.

I'm not really sure what the difference is between the crossover frequency and LPF of LFE.
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At the place where just about everyone here got theirs. The usual Saturday price too.

Forgive the noob question, but what does "LPF" stand for?

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Forgive the noob question, but what does "LPF" stand for?

Low Pass Filter.
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Pretty nice. Ran the auto setup a few times, and then tweaked. Sounds great, but I still need to do some more tweaking. Brings out the weaknesses in my center and surrounds so I may have to do some more shopping.
I'm using a Parasound HCA1000 for the fronts and the AVR powers the rears and center. For what I paid, it's great.

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I don't think it does. You can set the crossover frequency for speakers set to "small." Frequencies below this setting (ranges from 40hz to 200hz with a default of 80) will be sent to the sub. This is on p. 56.

I'm not really sure what the difference is between the crossover frequency and LPF of LFE.

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The following is an explanation of LPF of LFE from AVS member Craig John:

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With the introduction of Dolby TrueHD and DTS MA, all channels became full-range channels, including the LFE channel. Therefore, the need arose to filter the LFE channel on playback: hence the LPF of LFE. Still, recording engineers almost never place content above 120 Hz in the LFE channel, so there is no need to re-direct higher frequencies from the LFE channel back to the main speakers.

The LPF of LFE is not a crossover in the sense that it redirects signals to various speakers. It simply filters the LFE channel above the set point. It *only* filters the LFE channel and it has no impact on re-directed bass from the main speakers. The main channel crossovers perform the function of filtering/re-directing for the main channels.

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I'm onboard. Placed my order for an RX-V765 today.

Welcome... to the house of Rock and Jazz !
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I'm onboard. Placed my order for an RX-V765 today.

Not a real active forum but I'm sure you'll be happy with the receiver. I sure am.
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So far, I love it. The only downside is that I can't hook up my Dish box directly because the box provided by Dish only has coax cable or S-Video out capabilities and the receiver doesn't have inputs for either... I wish the Dish box had an HDMI out. But the receiver does a pretty good job all around... clean and efficient. YPAO has been the biggest surprise for me. I've been reading for awhile the inconsistencies that this system is supposed to have, but it has actually done a great job of setting up my 5 channel system within the room. Sound quality for music is what I expected from Yamaha... clear and detailed. The amp section has a little better "umph" for my Klipsch system than my old system had. For two channel music, it's not too bad, but I'm looking forward to the Emotiva XPA-3 amp just ordered to open up my front stage and imaging for both music and HT applications. The only thing I'm planning to keep on the receiver's amp load are the two surround speakers.

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I currently have the RX-V1600. I have owned it for the last 4 years and love it.
However I have entered the 1080p realm and the V1600 is just not capable to do this.

Is the 765 a worthy replacement for my 1600 or should I be looking for something else?
I'm only running...afraid to even say it in these forums...a 5.1 BOSE Lifestyle II setup with a BIC sub.
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Hi, I'm also looking at the RX-V765. Does it have A/B switching? Looking at the online specs, it doesn't seem to. This is a must feature for me, as I have 2 sets of fronts that I switch between in movies and music.

Thanks.
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I found out that it was lacking a switching AC outlet on the back. That was the deal breaker for me.
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Anyone have strong opinions on the V765 vs. the new V667 or forthcoming V767?

I'm using a HTR-6060 (near twin of V661) now. Just noticed some nice closeout pricing on the V765. Tempting.
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v767

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i'm learning towards waiting for the V767... i think the new overlay GUI might be a nice feature in daily use...

i always feeling guilty about getting rid of a receiver like the HTR-6060... its working fine and not giving any trouble...
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v767

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I'm trying to interpret that.

Is there anything in the rxv765 vs 767 that might lean the audio aspects toward one or the other?

From the yamaha asia site there is a lot to like about the 767 feature-wise, but I am not looking for much video capability, more so for stable and clean audio, both analog and processed digital.

HDMI on a receiver would be a step up for me. Trying to demote a rxv450 to the family room. Just bought 567, it just doesn't have the character that the 450 had regardless of tweaks and fine-setup-tuning. That is going back to store. Current pricing, even at local brick and mortars for rxv765 is well below even the rxv667, much less such a sexy beast as the 767. Could basically replace the rxv450 for about what I paid for it 6 years ago if the 765 is the right choice now.

Audio expectations anyone?

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Got one of these while I was out shopping saw it for a I can't believe it price. Hook up was fairly easy to a HDDVR, BD Player, Roku HD, and a Wii the video pass through for all. The PQ was as before and I must say it does sound good. It replaced my old HTR-5550 (going to bedroom) and there is some difference in sound levels. I'm ok with this amp over the v667 I paid xxx dollars less than current v667 and v665 internet price. It was all about money for me, the only thing I want was v667 OSD GUI, which this one doesn't have, oh well you can't have everything. I think maybe a new sub would be nice now since this is 7/2 system..

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Audio expectations anyone?

I bought a 765 in Feb and I love it. It replaced a 10 year old Onkyo which had no HDMI or the new Dolby or DTS that are on BD, so it was a big step up for me. The 765 has a much more robust power supply than the lower models and rated power is from 20-20khz instead of 1khz. May not be an issue in a small to medium sized room but could be with a large room and low sensitivity speakers.

FWIW, I am a believer that all receivers sound the same if played within their rated parameters, so I wouldn't expect it to "sound" any different than the other models if not driven to clipping.
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Hello all and DAMN you all...and THANK you all...

Because I just found the Newegg deal and pulled the trigger on a 765.

After humming and hawing over an Emotiva UMC-1, Onkyo 707, Marantz 7002 and Yamaha 665 I'm finally getting a new receiver.

I'll be replacing my trusty Denon 1801 that I've had since the late 90s. I'll be feeding the pre-outs to an Emotiva UPA-7 I've had almost 2 years in anticipation of a UMC-1. My speakers are a set of Mirage OM6 mains, OMC2 center and OM12 surrounds.

A Sony 46" LCD, Sony BluRay and Motorola HD PVR round out the rest of my setup.

I'm curious to know if anyone thinks that the BiPolar nature of the Mirage speakers might give the YPAO any issues. These speakers are a 'hand me down' from my older brother and I'm wondering if I should be updating them next.

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I did not read the whole 11 pages but can some one tell me if the 765 has hdmi 1.4 or not, i can not seem to find it on the yamaha home page, it only says 4 in 1 out.
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I did not read the whole 11 pages but can some one tell me if the 765 has hdmi 1.4 or not, i can not seem to find it on the yamaha home page, it only says 4 in 1 out.

It does not.
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Realy, i thought i read somewhere It was 1.4 as one of the first from Yamaha , thats what made me put It on my list for possible receiver, that's a bummer, the search goes on then for one that does and is in the same price range
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Realy, i thought i read somewhere It was 1.4 as one of the first from Yamaha , thats what made me put It on my list for possible receiver, that's a bummer, the search goes on then for one that does and is in the same price range

I think you may not need 1.4 as much as you might believe. There is no application currently other than 3D where this is need, so unless you have a 3d set up it's more a marketing tool than a improvement in HDMI cabling. Heck there is already a HDMI1.4a cable so now is everyone suppose to buy a new receiver to benefit from this new cable's abilities. if you like the 765 and can get for a good price it will do the job just fine. I though I need the 1.4 myself but now I realize there was no benefit for the extra money. When I compared the 667 to 765 and saw it was more powerful and cost xxx less and had all the same function it was not worth it just for HDMI 1.4.

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My neighbor asked my help in getting an XM adapter for his 765. Of course, the Fine Manual says zero except there are Sirius & XM receiver ports.

The big gotcha is this is in a basement & I'll need to go a ways to even hope to get a sky look.

a) Which flavor adapter do we want, XM or Sirius, since they fused together [like chicken nuggets]?

b) What's the protocol over the connecting cable; can it be extended?
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OK all,

I think that I am convinced to not bottom feed on craigslist for a 663 at @2big or a 259 at @1big. I am prepared to make a local store either happy or frustrated as I seek "the killer deal" on a 765.

The SQ thru the amplifiers seems very much to have pleased persons who should know, and that is really important to my wife's finely tuned ears.

I tried 567, absolutely not. Listened to 667, meh. Not really impressed. 765/1065 at least as good as 667 SQ, perhaps a tad better in some respects of instrument differentiation on same speakers (floor standing focal's). 765 should be at least equal of my well behaved RX-V450 from 2004. MSRP $ vs inflation conversion works out pretty close. 450 can go to family room.

The wonder box aspects of 667 and fantasy 767 on up would be nice. But are not needed or desired (brand new HDMI standard, first implementation of 3d) at this time. Either the craigslist old yamaha, or the store-bought 765 can look forward to about 2yrs as "best in the house", when a sexy new (and heavily discounted) RX-A 2 or 3000 is likely to scratch any itches I might have in 2011 or 2012.

Lets see, gun...check. Hand grenade...check. Knife...clenched in teeth. And the ultimate weapon, be prepared to WALK.

OK, lets go make a deal!!

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765 at NewEgg this weekend only for $330 shipped. Promo code: EMCYTZT81
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