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And the 767 looks like a killer product!!!

So in terms of firmware upgradability what is expected?? Does yamaha releases regular firmwares for this range of receivers??? and what about the higher-mid range??

Also any info, specs, on the 1067?? Will it have ethernet port??

767 does look like a shot in the right direction... do wonder if it can be taken as an indication of what they will do to the other AVRs they've yet to release.
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I found this on a Hong Kong-based forum:


BD-A1010/CD-S1000/PF60
HTR-6290/A-S1000/KDL46V5100
NS-555/SOAVO-900C/NS-125F

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HD - 7
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Looks believable.
  • 3900 replacement.
  • Expandable to 11.2 (presumably with external amps), including stereo subs.
  • New YPAO with angle measurements and room mode control (sounds a bit like the Z11 YPAO).
I hope "Scene Plus" provides something like the old system memories that have been missing on the x67 series so far.
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[The RX-V3067] Looks believable.
  • 3900 replacement.
  • Expandable to 11.2 (presumably with external amps), including stereo subs.
  • New YPAO with angle measurements and room mode control (sounds a bit like the Z11 YPAO).
I hope "Scene Plus" provides something like the old system memories that have been missing on the x67 series so far.

This all assumes that the RX-V3067 supports use of all 11.2 channels simultaneously (i.e., with 4x external amps). That 11.x configuration sounds a lot like an implementation of the 'DTS Neo:X' surround expansion post processor demonstrated at CES 2009. The September 'availability date' from the graphic would suggest a July or August announcement by Yamaha, and coincidentally Thursday July 1, 2010, is [again] DTS 7.1 Day . . . so we might expect some new product disclosures by DTS somewhere in the month of July...?

The declared 11.2 configuration does not indicate whether it results from adding a pair of Front Wide Speakers to the characteristic Yamaha 9.x [7.x Standard plus 2x Front Presence/Height Speakers] or a third pair of speakers to the Surround/Rear space (as originally shown by DTS at CES 2009) . . . or perhaps a 'choice' between the two?

One future thought:
The RX-V3067 looks to be an implementation of the (mystery) DTS Neo:X [presumably now DTS Neo:11] system, plus [a version of] the Yamaha CinemaDSP 4x Presence channel overlay. The last Yamaha flagship AVR, the RX-Z11, 'achieved' 11 (non sub) channels (i.e., amps) by "not combining" the two rear Presence channels with the Left and Right surround channels; if Yamaha follows this strategy for its next flagship product we should be looking for an RX-Z13 or DSP-Z13 model in the next year or so!

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3067 update:




BD-A1010/CD-S1000/PF60
HTR-6290/A-S1000/KDL46V5100
NS-555/SOAVO-900C/NS-125F

BD - 242
HD - 7
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Penny pinching on a high end receiver by having only coax, or only optical...lol

Practically speaking though, this is probably ok, and they do offer 4 legacy inputs.

Should be an interesting piece of gear. After seeing the 667, I sort of feel like Yamaha listened to complaints about their other models and are going to put out some good receivers for the fall release.

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3067 update:

You should url origin http://forum.ixbt.com/topic.cgi?id=62:16335-69#2202
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hmm.... argh... thanks for the photos... the fall is a loong wait... and dunno if dealers are offering pre order discounts near the release date... should i hold out, or go w/ an onkyo nr 808, coming out very soon?
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3067 looks like it has a digital input zone 4 input, like the Z7. I see no dedicated analog record output, which would affect almost no one, due to how usless record outs are these days.

8 pre outs (10 really, with overlaying?), some of which seem to be overlayed. Front presence pre outs now, which overlay L/R? Presence outputs with overlay zone 3?

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Front and rear sub outs, anyone know what that is about?
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Looks like the Z11. The two subs are time aligned and EQed separately and can be set as Front & Rear or Stereo (left/right).

But the pre-out arrangement is different from the way Z11 handles 11.2.
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Front and rear sub outs, anyone know what that is about?

I noticed that too. It might have some DSP ability to sent front low freqs to a front sub and rear low freqs to a rear sub?

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It would not surprise me to see trickle down tech from the Z11 in the 3067.

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hmm.... argh... thanks for the photos... the fall is a loong wait... and dunno if dealers are offering pre order discounts near the release date... should i hold out, or go w/ an onkyo nr 808, coming out very soon?

I'm thinking the same thing. I was ready to pull the trigger on the 808 until I saw the 3067 photos.
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It would not surprise me to see trickle down tech from the Z11 in the 3067.

[If I'm not mistaken(?)] The RX-Z11's Rear Presence speakers only deliver DSP soundfield content (which in other Yamaha AVRs is mixed in with the 'decode' content played through the Left+Right Surround speakers). This makes [more] sense on the RX-Z11 whose owners are more likely(?) to utilize floor standing speakers for Surround (and Back) speakers than are other, poorer(!) AVR owners, and so may benefit from (separately) delivering Rear Presence content from a dedicated (and properly located) 'upper tier' speaker. Breaking out that speaker location at a (guess!) $1900 MSRP seems a questionable decision . . . unless the RX-V3067's Rear Presence speakers also deliver ["DPLIIX/DPLIIz style"] 'expansion content' from (say) 7.1 BD playback...?!

Hopefully the cut-sheet content will be a little more substantial for this model than Yamaha usually delivers . . . otherwise we'll be stuck waiting for the manual!

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So if the 3067 is the 3900 replacement will there be a 1900 replacement? I'm really hoping Yamaha adds Slacker and/or Last.fm as well.
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So if the 3067 is the 3900 replacement will there be a 1900 replacement? I'm really hoping Yamaha adds Slacker and/or Last.fm as well.

2067? No idea, just guessing.

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So if the 3067 is the 3900 replacement whats the 1900 replacement? Certainly won't be the 1067 or 2067 will it?

The 1067 seems to be the replacement for the 1065 [and 863]. Someone on another website posted that the Japanese main product sequence 'has no 2067' [nor 667, for the matter] which suggests the 2067 expected at the (approx) $1300 MSRP [2065 and/or 1900] is a selective market product, and will likely either be a 'bigger 1067' (as the 2065 was an upsized 1065 last year) or a 'smaller 3067' . . . guess we'll have to wait a couple more weeks to find out!

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I found this on a Hong Kong-based forum:


HQV VHD1900. This looks good.
Is seems very hard to find any information about this receiver :-(
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I'm diggin' the Reon HQV chip in this thing. I wasn't exactly impressed with the results of the ABT 1012 or even their 2010 implementations.

If this thing shows up at BB I'll be able to get it in Sept, with no interest for three years

It's also apparently one of the few models with S-Video inputs. I kinda need those for my GC and DC consoles.

It'll also be interesting to have all this and a stereo sub output setup too.

And I can avoid the Audyssey crap that made my supposedly "bright" Polk RTi-A9s sound dull and mushy when played on the Denon NR-5007.

Edit: BTW is it me or does it look like this remote is of cheaper quality than the last model's? I'm noticing this in both AVRs and TVs this year.

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Whether it's cheaper or not, count me in the NON fans of the current 3900/Z7 remote. The "cursor" buttons are hard to push, and don't always seem to register (which is one reason why I won't bother with it's network music feature...too painful to use.)

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I wonder if this model will be able to store audio delay on a per source basis. There are times I use my Samsung's AutoMotionPlus mode, and other times that I don't, and having to switch my audio delay settings constantly via a very slooooooooooow up/down toggle, 1ms at a time, is getting irritating to say the least.

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I wonder if this model will be able to store audio delay on a per source basis.

Typically Yamaha's have a single global delay, but they do have discrete remote control codes to set the delay. So with a programmable remote you could switch delays with a single button press.
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Typically Yamaha's have a single global delay, but they do have discrete remote control codes to set the delay. So with a programmable remote you could switch delays with a single button press.

That'd certainly be a plus, and a major convenience. Wonder if the HTR-5860 has such codes (that's my current AVR).

Kinda sucks when you have to "scroll" through a 0-100 or 100-0 rotation just because you turned Samsung's AutoMotionPlus on or off and had to compensate for the input lag.

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I don't know about the 5860, I was thinking more of the 1800/1900 class and higher.
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Fry's is currently heavily discounting the Yamaha RX-V1065 and RX-V2065. And by heavily, we're talking around 45-50% of their previous street prices.

To give you an idea of how much the discounts are, the 3900BL (black) is now the same price as the 1065 was at full retail. If I didn't need the ARC functions of the new unit coming out I'd get it in a heartbeat.

One thing I'm grateful for is that the 3067 doesn't use the fugly centered buttons look that the lower RV line uses. Yamaha sure has forgotten what aesthetics means in addition to quality.

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The pre-outs on these things never cease to amaze (confuse) me.

So, unless I'm missing something here, it appears that even if you have 7,000 channels of external amplification, you cannot pre-out Zones 2&3, AND run a 9 channel config in the main area?

I say this as it appears like the Zone 3 pre-outs are an "either or" affair between "Zone 3 and "Rear presence"...ditto for the "Front and Front Presence" preouts next to them.

Am I right?

BTW: even more bizarely, do the combination of FRONT and FRONT PRESENCE outputs mean you cannot run those simultaneously either (or perhaps one set is ouput by the internal amp while the other is "pre-outted"? I highly doubt this is the case, but I'm massively confused here.

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3067 looks like it has a digital input zone 4 input, like the Z7. I see no dedicated analog record output, which would affect almost no one, due to how usless record outs are these days.

8 pre outs (10 really, with overlaying?), some of which seem to be overlayed. Front presence pre outs now, which overlay L/R? Presence outputs with overlay zone 3?

Sorry I missed this post...I'm confused. If someone has the answer, I'd appreciate it...perhaps I'm just thick this AM?

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Hi all,

Picked up a 5063 at costco to upgrade RX-V450 I thought. Wife wanted to buy here, and had seen picture of receiver and thought that the blue lighting and fairly clean design would look good in HER theater room, aka, the living room. rxv450 semi-retired to family room.

Did HDMI hook up to existing Pioneer BDP-51FD and to Mitsu DLP 65837 display. Existing 3.1 channel Paradigms.

Ran YPAO. Very simple and quick. Picked up out-of-phase center channel. Corrected it, ran again. Minor tweak of distances balanced speaker levels nicely. Total time YPAO calibration =<15min.

Watched tv: No two-way on hdmi. TV antenna (OTA) needs separate audio hookup back to Rxv. OK

Watched DVD 5.1 audio via Pioneer: Seemed kinda uninteresting as effects and dialog. Tried a couple of DSP modes: meh. RXV displayed 5.1 and HDMI, just didn't seem to do much with it. Remote is a disappointment compared to 6-yr old 450's, not possible to directly select DSP for movies, lots of repeated pushs to scroll thru. Not intuitive, for me at least.

CD Soundtrack of Lord of the Rings, RotK. Track 18, Annie Lennox's "Into The West": Big Let Down. I bring my wife into the room to listen to this, as she usually gets so happy with the song that she sings along (well, I might add) and has excellent hearing and tone discrimination. She listens to about 40 seconds worth and says that she wants her old receiver back. 5063 has no, absolutely no, fullness. DSP's do very little to help. rxv450 could fill this hard-floored and minimally furnished, 22ft vaulted-ceilinged living room and half the house with SOUND. Clear, lively, interesting and even impressively for a speaker/receiver package that was well under $1K 6-years ago.

Unless someone can point-out what I might have done wrong in my set-up, the new Yamaha is going back to the store. So far as I can tell, the Yamaha HTR-5063 (RX-V 567 FWIK) have lots of features, but someone forgot to put either DAC's or (more likely) amplifiers into the pretty black box with blue lights.

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I LIKE to have a proper printed and bound owners manual.

I guess that doesn't seem important compared to everything above, but sitting comfortably on the patio with a beer and a written description of whatever new electronic toy you've brought home used to be one of the great pleasures in life.

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