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I can have my choice of these 3 all for the same price- the 2310 and VSX-23 are open boxes while the 2809 is a return from service at Magnolia- all 3 are in excellent condition on the outside. Going to be used in a 2.1 setup in an exercise room. Just wondering which is best value and will offer best sound quality.
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I can have my choice of these 3 all for the same price- the 2310 and VSX-23 are open boxes while the 2809 is a return from service at Magnolia- all 3 are in excellent condition on the outside. Going to be used in a 2.1 setup in an exercise room. Just wondering which is best value and will offer best sound quality.

They will all sound the same but the Pioneer VSX-23 is the best one by far. It is THX certified, has pre-amp outputs and a ton of other features.

The choice is clear.

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I would get the 2809. There are gives and takes vs the VSX-23, but the main advantages would be a stronger amp section and multeq XT. Just my .02 but I believe the standalone remote is nicer as well (and you get a 2nd compact one to boot).

All three of them are overkill / not optimized for 2.1 use, as you are paying a lot of money for features you will never use in that environment. You could spend half as much and get the same result. Put the money towards better speakers, longer warranty, sat radio sub, ipod dock, etc...
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Although the 2809 is a step above either the VSX or the 2310, for an exercise room all three are overkill. Better choice would be a Denon 1610 or 590 at half the cost and comparable audio to the 2310.

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They will all sound the same but the Pioneer VSX-23 is the best one by far. It is THX certified, has pre-amp outputs and a ton of other features.

The choice is clear.

obviously its not clear because I would disagree.

Audyssey MultEQ XT is superior to the Mcacc crap or whatever it is.

2809 is the best choice in my books.

2310 doesnt compare to either and its the last choice.


The others are right though they are overkill for your setup!

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Just wondering which is best value and will offer best sound quality.

In a general case the 2809 was the best value at even $1K back when it first came out. Now that its even cheaper, it just reinforces its lead. It has MultEQ XT and pre/outs. Its a huge steal.

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I appreciate the comments and advice- I've had the 2310 for the last 4 weeks and have been evaluating it- I really couldnt tell a difference between it and the 1910 from a sound perspective however, I picked up the 2809 for $535.00 (open box, no remotes, antennas, manuals) and have been listening and it is a very noticeable difference between it and the 2310. I dont know how best to describe it but the sound is much more punchy, crisp and dynamic even with just 2 speakers. I believe there is alot of difference between the amp sections in these 2 receivers. I realize it's overkill for the current setup but for the price and condition of the unit I couldnt pass on it.
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Yes indeed, the 2809 does have better components and the more advanced Audyssey MultEQ XT. You can get a copy of the Owners manual on line here. The FM antenna (if needed) can be replaced from a Radio Shack. And the remote can be replaced with a Harmony remote (just have Logitech download Denon remote commands under batpig's account - see the link in his sig for more info).

Edit: Forgot about the Audyssey calibration mic which can be picked up from your local Best Buy or from Denon directly.

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Thank you jd
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Or you could buy a refurb 989 from Dakmart for $529 and get the remote, calibration microphone and all the other accessories and well as 1 year warranty. 989 is essentially the 2809 without the second remote.

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The Denon 2809 is an excellent AVR, but it is not superior to the Pioneer VSX-23.

They are at best a wash.

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Several of us would disagree on that ... although a moot point as the OP has already made the purchase.

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I appreciate the comments and advice- I've had the 2310 for the last 4 weeks and have been evaluating it- I really couldnt tell a difference between it and the 1910 from a sound perspective however, I picked up the 2809 for $535.00 (open box, no remotes, antennas, manuals) and have been listening and it is a very noticeable difference between it and the 2310. I dont know how best to describe it but the sound is much more punchy, crisp and dynamic even with just 2 speakers. I believe there is alot of difference between the amp sections in these 2 receivers. I realize it's overkill for the current setup but for the price and condition of the unit I couldnt pass on it.

Yes, last year's Denon amps are superior to this year's. So you made a wise choice in that regard. I think the Pioneer VSX-23 has more features and its amps are easily as good as the 2809's but you will doubtless be happy with the Denon.

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Thanks Bull-

It was hard choosing between the 03TXH and the 2809 but I have the ASD-3N which works great with powerline networking and offers internet radio thru the Denon as well as the ability to play content off our PC.
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