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It is funnier that you think your answer is correct.

Its funny that I have connected my Pioneer receiver to this same amp and it works correctly. There is no need for a Y adapter.

As you can see in this photo, there is a red and a white pre-out for the FRONT speakerS. If you used a Y adapter, you would send both channels to ONE speaker and then your other speaker wouldn't have anything to connect to. So, you send a single RCA from the FRONT white to your left main speaker, and then a single RCA from the FRONT red to the right main. Notice how the rows are listed with a "L" and "R" for left and right speakers? If you are still convinced a Y adapter is needed, please explain to me how you would connect the center channel. Now stop with the nonsense.


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Its funny that I have connected my Pioneer receiver to this same amp and it works correctly. There is no need for a Y adapter.

As you can see in this photo, there is a red and a white pre-out for the FRONT speakerS. If you used a Y adapter, you would send both channels to ONE speaker and then your other speaker wouldn't have anything to connect to. So, you send a single RCA from the FRONT white to your left main speaker, and then a single RCA from the FRONT red to the right main. Notice how the rows are listed with a "L" and "R" for left and right speakers? If you are still convinced a Y adapter is needed, please explain to me how you would connect the center channel. Now stop with the nonsense.

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Its funny that I have connected my Pioneer receiver to this same amp and it works correctly. There is no need for a Y adapter.

As you can see in this photo, there is a red and a white pre-out for the FRONT speakerS. If you used a Y adapter, you would send both channels to ONE speaker and then your other speaker wouldn't have anything to connect to. So, you send a single RCA from the FRONT white to your left main speaker, and then a single RCA from the FRONT red to the right main. Notice how the rows are listed with a "L" and "R" for left and right speakers? If you are still convinced a Y adapter is needed, please explain to me how you would connect the center channel. Now stop with the nonsense.


You failed to thoroughly read my reply regarding the connection. I asked why a Y connector would be used. I have likely disconnected and connected more AVR's in the past few weeks than you have in years. I also have separate components so I am well aware of pre out and in connections.

Perhaps you can expand my knowledge and tell me how to connect an RCA cable to a speaker as you instructed.
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The SC-68 has a red and white RCA pre-amp output plug. You use a single RCA from the red to go to your left speaker. You then take a single RCA to the white and run it to your other speaker. You can do this with your fronts, rear surround and center for a total of 5 channels. I'm not sure if you really want to use your receiver to drive your subs though.
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Touché

Seems as if you also need "Audio 101". Or do you connect RCA's to your speakers?
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You failed to thoroughly read my reply regarding the connection. I asked why a Y connector would be used. I have likely disconnected and connected more AVR's in the past few weeks than you have in years. I also have separate components so I am well aware of pre out and in connections.

Perhaps you can expand my knowledge and tell me how to connect an RCA cable to a speaker as you instructed.

Let me more clear since you require full instruction. Of course the RCA does not go directly to a speaker. It goes to whichever channel on the amp you choose to then connect to the speaker. The question was about the amp connection, not the amp to the speaker.

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Let me more clear since you require full instruction. Of course the RCA does not go directly to a speaker. It goes to whichever channel on the amp you choose to then connect to the speaker. The question was about the amp connection, not the amp to the speaker.

You clearly stated to connect the RCA from the pre out to the speaker. You never mentioned connecting the AVR to the amp.
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You clearly stated to connect the RCA from the pre out to the speaker. You never mentioned connecting the AVR to the amp.

Sometimes it's ok to admit you were wrong and then move on.
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Sometimes it's ok to admit you were wrong and then move on.

I would if I was wrong.
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How about we just stop with the bickering now!!! This is a finished conversation and the guy who asked about the Pioneer has been told what to do, whether right or not. He was also given the thread to the Pioneer SC-68 so if he has questions he should go there. Obviously I am asking as our Emotiva thread has been completely derailed and it is unnecessary at this point to argue over preouts. How about a picture for my finished entertainment center. I am just waiting on the Integra to be shipped and I will have it hooked up by the weekend.

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Seems as if you also need "Audio 101". Or do you connect RCA's to your speakers?

You are funny.........see post #516!
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You need a "Y" adapter with 2 female on 1 end and a male on the other. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Monster+Cable+-+Male-to-Female+Adapter/7867828.p?id=1158316752168&skuId=7867828&st=y%20cable&cp=1&lp=9

Just curious as to why you want left and right going to a single speaker.

I really don't want to send left and right to single speakers. It was my ignorance that i did not understand thst White goes to right channel and Red goes to left channel.
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Have you checked this thread out?

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1422205/official-pioneer-sc-68-67-thread

This will be your best bet to get your answer. I am trying to see how you would hook it up without preouts, but I am not sure if you need an additional RCA adapter or what you would use if you don't just put the interconnect in one of the two rca jacks.

Edit: Looking at your user manual, you have preouts. You should just hook your LF interconnect to the white input on the SC-68. RF to the red input and so on for the center and rears. Hope that helps and I am pretty sure I am right.
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Have you checked this thread out?

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1422205/official-pioneer-sc-68-67-thread

This will be your best bet to get your answer. I am trying to see how you would hook it up without preouts, but I am not sure if you need an additional RCA adapter or what you would use if you don't just put the interconnect in one of the two rca jacks.

Edit: Looking at your user manual, you have preouts. You should just hook your LF interconnect to the white input on the SC-68. RF to the red input and so on for the center and rears. Hope that helps and I am pretty sure I am right.
Thanks!

No problem, we are all just trying to help, even though an argument did occur.
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I have Pioneer SC-68, and i am looking to add XPA-5 to drive my Front Towers and Surround, and SC-68 to drive Back, Subs and Front Highs, and zone 2 speakers.
When i looked at the SC-68 preouts, they have 2 RCA jacks for Front PreOuts, one white and one red (presumably unbalanced Stereo). However, XPA-5 accepts a single RCA in for input. I am trying to understand what interconnect/how they are connected. In essence, my confusion is around what i need to do make 2 jack RCA output my receiver to Single Jack RCA input for XPA-5

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I have Pioneer SC-68, and i am looking to add XPA-5 to drive my Front Towers and Surround, and SC-68 to drive Back, Subs and Front Highs, and zone 2 speakers.
When i looked at the SC-68 preouts, they have 2 RCA jacks for Front PreOuts, one white and one red (presumably unbalanced Stereo). However, XPA-5 accepts a single RCA in for input. I am trying to understand what interconnect/how they are connected. In essence, my confusion is around what i need to do make 2 jack RCA output my receiver to Single Jack RCA input for XPA-5

You need a "Y" adapter with 2 female on 1 end and a male on the other. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Monster+Cable+-+Male-to-Female+Adapter/7867828.p?id=1158316752168&skuId=7867828&st=y%20cable&cp=1&lp=9

Just curious as to why you want left and right going to a single speaker.

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It is not correct to say the OP needs an RCA splitter to connect the preamp outputs to the power amp inputs.



I never said it should be done that way. In fact I asked why it would.


Still can't understand why you failed to respond to the incorrect answer I referenced. Oh, almost forgot about your trolling.

This is what you said: "You need a "Y" adapter with 2 female on 1 end and a male on the other"


If 'trolling' is correcting your incorrect information, so be it. You're back in Ignore now, so no need to reply.

Maybe everyone can move on as syendluri has gotten proper information. If you look at the initial post (I have quoted it for you all), the question mudcat answered is correct because of the confusion syendluri had in relation to the preouts on the Pioneer SC-68. Mudcat gave an answer and then asked why you would want to use that Y connector. He wasn't stating he should use it, because he was asking a question. It is easy to see if you just tone down the attitudes coming from all sides of this. Leave the damn question alone at this point or I will ask a moderator to come clean this up. I shouldn't have to because we for the most part are adults and you all should be able to drop this. syendluri has already said thanks to me and others for answering his question.
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Maybe everyone can move on as syendluri has gotten proper information. If you look at the initial post (I have quoted it for you all), the question mudcat answered is correct because of the confusion syendluri had in relation to the preouts on the Pioneer SC-68. Mudcat gave an answer and then asked why you would want to use that Y connector. He wasn't stating he should use it, because he was asking a question. It is easy to see if you just tone down the attitudes coming from all sides of this. Leave the damn question alone at this point or I will ask a moderator to come clean this up. I shouldn't have to because we for the most part are adults and you all should be able to drop this. syendluri has already said thanks to me and others for answering his question.

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Just got a little confused after reading last few post. Does it matter which speaker conects to the xpa-5? I mean does the center channel for example have to connected to a certain app on the xpa or once it corresponds to speaker and pre out on avr it's cool.
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Just got a little confused after reading last few post. Does it matter which speaker conects to the xpa-5? I mean does the center channel for example have to connected to a certain app on the xpa or once it corresponds to speaker and pre out on avr it's cool.

So long as they correspond it doesn’t matter - all 5 amps in the XPA-5 are the same as each other.

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So long as they correspond it doesn’t matter - all 5 amps in the XPA-5 are the same as each other.

I thought so. Thanks.
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How about we just stop with the bickering now!!! This is a finished conversation and the guy who asked about the Pioneer has been told what to do, whether right or not. He was also given the thread to the Pioneer SC-68 so if he has questions he should go there. Obviously I am asking as our Emotiva thread has been completely derailed and it is unnecessary at this point to argue over preouts. How about a picture for my finished entertainment center. I am just waiting on the Integra to be shipped and I will have it hooked up by the weekend.

Looks good. Just plexi glasses to baby proof mine and finally get rid of the baby gate


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How about we just stop with the bickering now!!! This is a finished conversation and the guy who asked about the Pioneer has been told what to do, whether right or not. He was also given the thread to the Pioneer SC-68 so if he has questions he should go there. Obviously I am asking as our Emotiva thread has been completely derailed and it is unnecessary at this point to argue over preouts. How about a picture for my finished entertainment center. I am just waiting on the Integra to be shipped and I will have it hooked up by the weekend.

Looks good. Just plexi glasses to baby proof mine and finally get rid of the baby gate


Nice setup Brian. Looks really good.

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Thank you! I would like to put that damn hdmi cord to the TV in th wall. But don't feel like taking that 130lb TV off the wall to do it haha

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Here is how it works:

You use single RCA interconnects and connect them at the back of you AVR preout (one for the right front channel, one for the left front channel, etc.). Then you connect the other end of the RCA interconnect to the each of the XPA-5 RCA inputs.

So, you have the AVR sending the audio signals to the XPA-5.

Next step, you need to run the speaker wires from the XPA-5 to each speaker. You hook first the speaker wire to your XPA-5 positive and negative (red/black) and the other end to your speaker's posts (red/black).

I hope this helps!

Thanks! I did not get this at the first reading, but a lot of discussion (and fight among members), I got it. thanks again!
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Thanks! I did not get this at the first reading, but a lot of discussion (and fight among members), I got it. thanks again!

Sorry for the fighting and my part in it.
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hi guys i need your suggestions. i will be using triad bronze in wall speakers for a home theater , my options to drive these speakers are 1) emotiva xpa 3 for LCR and denon 3313 for surrounds and pre pro 2) xpa 5 to drive all speakers or 3) integra 50.4... which amp to use? does the xpa 3 will provide enough power to drive the triad bronze in walls, it is rated at 4 ohms.
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hi guys i need your suggestions. i will be using triad bronze in wall speakers for a home theater , my options to drive these speakers are 1) emotiva xpa 3 for LCR and denon 3313 for surrounds and pre pro 2) xpa 5 to drive all speakers or 3) integra 50.4... which amp to use? does the xpa 3 will provide enough power to drive the triad bronze in walls, it is rated at 4 ohms.

 

It depends on the SPL levels you require at your seated distance for listening. But the short answer is, yes.

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so xpa 3 for LCR and denon for my surrounds will be my best bet. this will be for my basement hometheater. the seating position will be 10-12 ft. whats your opinion for xpa 5 driving the triad in wall speakers including the surrounds,, 4 ohms
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so xpa 3 for LCR and denon for my surrounds will be my best bet. this will be for my basement hometheater. the seating position will be 10-12 ft. whats your opinion for xpa 5 driving the triad in wall speakers including the surrounds,, 4 ohms

 

XPA-3 plus the Denon for surrounds would be, I would say, a pretty good arrangement. The XPA-5 would be great - but costs more. Surrounds generally require less power than the mains, which is why the Denon would be a good choice to drive the surrounds. In an ideal world I would go with the XPA-5 - it is a great amp, terrific value and could well be the last amp you will ever need to buy.

 

I went your route - XPA-3 and my Onkyo 5007 driving the surrounds, which worked really well. But then I wanted the Onkyo 5009 pre-pro, which I now have, so I ended up buying two Emo UPA-2s to drive my surrounds and heights. Not that I am complaining - it is terrific. Just pointing out that the XPA-5 might give you a degree of future proofing if you ever go the pre-pro route.

 

The great thing about amps is that they never go out of fashion and never change - you can keep a good amp for decades. I have a two-channel amp that I use in my separate music system which I have had for over 20 years. It has been powered on all of that time (other than power cuts) and still works like it did the day I bought it. I expect my Emo amps to last as long, or longer.

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I've got an XPA-3 with a UPA-2, similar to what you would have if you were to use the Denon for the surrounds. It works very well and I've never had the surrounds clip on me.
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