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Old 01-25-2015, 03:32 PM
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Now I was not clear; I was comparing the XPA-7 to the XPA-5 when I commented upon the amplifier modules. I would guess but do not know that the XPA-3, -5, and -7 share the same amplifier module. The XPA-2, probably not, unless it is the same module run at a little higher voltage, and I also doubt the XPA-1 uses the same module as the other amps in the line. I imagine the circuit topology is the same up and down the line with the possible exception of the XPA-1. Of course power supplies vary, but movies and music rarely if ever drive every channel to max at the same time, in phase, and all that jazz so I doubt I would hear the difference. I don't usually pay a lot of attention to the power supply unless it is exceptionally large or small.

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Old 01-25-2015, 04:34 PM
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Now I was not clear; I was comparing the XPA-7 to the XPA-5 when I commented upon the amplifier modules. I would guess but do not know that the XPA-3, -5, and -7 share the same amplifier module. The XPA-2, probably not, unless it is the same module run at a little higher voltage, and I also doubt the XPA-1 uses the same module as the other amps in the line. I imagine the circuit topology is the same up and down the line with the possible exception of the XPA-1. Of course power supplies vary, but movies and music rarely if ever drive every channel to max at the same time, in phase, and all that jazz so I doubt I would hear the difference. I don't usually pay a lot of attention to the power supply unless it is exceptionally large or small.
XPA -3 has a smaller power supply than XPA-2. I can't see how that is good.

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Isnt the XPA-2 designed for 2 channel usage, meaning running full range fronts potentially for music? I would expect it to be beefier.

The XPA-3's main use is running the fronts, letting an AVR power the rears, for 5.1. That was my main reasoning for getting the XPA-3, because I know it outperforms any AVR.

And then if you want to run 7.1, you buy the XPA-7. I see them all as having a particular function.
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Why would you think someone with a 3 channel isn't into 2 channel? You just select 2 channel. I'm using a 3 channel amplifier and I play back 2ch music.

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Thats not what I meant, but the amps (looking at specs) have an obvious target that I think you are missing. Thanks as well for the explanation of how you play 2 channel with a 3 channel amp, I was unaware it was that easy...

I personally think the XPA-3 could handle 2 channel music fine, but the XPA-2 is beefier for a reason in my opinion.

XPA-2 is more $$$ too. Also note their descriptions:

XPA-2 = "
Stereo Power Amp
Legendary two-channel performance.


"

Even in the description the XPA-2 (for movies) is focused on powering fronts and letting the XPA-5 power your other speakers. This is goofy to me, just buy a XPA 7. I do know some people like a dedicated 2 channel setup, and this amp would be great for that.

XPA-3 = "
Three-Channel Power Amp
Supercharge your home theater.


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My take on their line is:

XPA-2 - perfect 2 channel amp for music; could also couple with a XPA-7 for 9 channels

XPA-3 - perfect amp for someone who runs 5.1 with a good AVR and wants more power where you need it, in the front 3 speakers

XPA-5 and XPA-7 - Amps built for 5 and 7 channel HT systems and of course music.

IMO, if I was buying any of their amps for HT AND music, it would not be a XPA-3, especially with hungry speakers. Id opt for the 5 or 7. But you take from their model line what you will. I personally think worrying about the XPA-3's lower capacitance and smaller transformer is a waste of time. I run a 3.2 system for tv and movies, but do listen in stereo and 2.2 basically. XPA-3 sounds outstanding, but my speakers are also very efficient. The sound is more open when cranked than my 4520, so I got what I wanted.

The problem I do have with their numbering system is, the layman may think they are all created equally with just more channels, but that is not the case with these XPA amps and you need to think closely before buying.

When we move, Ill be buying an XPA-7 for my HT room, and leave the XPA-3 and the 4520 for the TV room.



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The problem I do have with their numbering system is, the layman may think they are all created equally with just more channels, but that is not the case with these XPA amps and you need to think closely before buying.
Other makes scale up the power supply as the channels increase.

They do seem to cut corners. If the XPA2 has something like 1200va PSU then XPA3 should have something like 1600/1800VA.

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Other makes scale up the power supply as the channels increase.

They do seem to cut corners. If the XPA2 has something like 1200va PSU then XPA3 should have something like 1600/1800VA.
I second this it almost seems you would benefit with using all xpa2 than the others plus the xpa2 you could bridge and really cook something
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I have a new XPA-5 in a closed cabinet with 2 inches clearance on sides and top powering 2 Goldenear 3 speakers +1 Goldenear Center, all running full range + MK Tripole sides (4ohm). I cool my amp with 1 AC Anfinity AL-MPF usb computer fan. Amazon 14 bucks. After 2 or 3 hours of hi dynamic movies the top of my amp is stone cold.
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When did the prices go up again? Was gonna pick up a xpa5 when I got back from vacation and it went up to $100. Bummed I didn't pull the trigger. My luck haha
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When did the prices go up again? Was gonna pick up a xpa5 when I got back from vacation and it went up to $100. Bummed I didn't pull the trigger. My luck haha
Join as an e-club member for just $49 and you'll get 15% off Emotiva's product. The math goes something like this.

e-club membership: +$49
XPA-5 amp cost: $999
less e-club membership discount: -$149.85
Net savings: $149.85-$49 = $100.85

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Join as an e-club member for just $49 and you'll get 15% off Emotiva's product. The math goes something like this.

e-club membership: +$49
XPA-5 amp cost: $999
less e-club membership discount: -$149.85
Net savings: $149.85-$49 = $100.85

Been nice to know that when it was still at $888, that would have made for a heck of a deal with the membership discount. I may have to snatch it up with the discount. Thanks.
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You could always wait for their spring sale... Or call/email them and see if they'll give you a break.

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You could always wait for their spring sale... Or call/email them and see if they'll give you a break.
When does it usually start, their spring sale? Which month?

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XPA -3 has a smaller power supply than XPA-2. I can't see how that is quite as good.
Fixed that for ya.
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When does it usually start, their spring sale? Which month?
If you're an e-club member (I am), you would have gotten an email advising of the warehouse sale that is exclusive to just e-club members. These are refurbished units that have passed QA/QC and backed with a full 5-year warranty. Shipping is free in the continental USA.

If you're okay with a refurbished XPA-5, this is available at a really good price right now.

Worth being an e-club member at the moment.

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If you're an e-club member (I am), you would have gotten an email advising of the warehouse sale that is exclusive to just e-club members. These are refurbished units that have passed QA/QC and backed with a full 5-year warranty. Shipping is free in the continental USA.

If you're okay with a refurbished XPA-5, this is available at a really good price right now.

Worth being an e-club member at the moment.
Thanks, Steve. I have been a member since Jan 1st but didnt get any emails from Emotiva. Did you?

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I am not sure when they offer sales. They seem to offer them about twice a year. I seem to recall a statement in their forums that they would discontinue sales in favor of the e-club and specials for members but not sure that has happened. I am not a member (all amp'd up for now).

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^^grigorianvlad,

I did receive the email just recently. Not sure why it wouldn't go out to other e-club members. Might want to ping Emotiva and ask for the email.

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I can confirm that I received the email with the offers as well
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Thank you for the confirmation. Why am I being excluded? Well, just as well. I would not buy anything from Emotiva even if it was 1/2 priced anyway. All amped out.

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Thank you for the confirmation. Why am I being excluded? Well, just as well. I would not buy anything from Emotiva even if it was 1/2 priced anyway. All amped out.
The sale is still more than 1/2 price. Since Emotiva excluded you they may not want to sell to you (even at more than 1/2 price).
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The sale is still more than 1/2 price. Since Emotiva excluded you they may not want to sell to you (even at more than 1/2 price).
Ouch!

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I got the sale email this afternoon.

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I'm an eclub member too, didn't receive the email either.....

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At least you guys aren't waiting as long for sales as it takes them to put out a prepro as promised....
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The sale is still more than 1/2 price. Since Emotiva excluded you they may not want to sell to you (even at more than 1/2 price).
I got the one for the refurbuished ones which do not have a return policy. Do you another with half off on regular new items ?
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Hi everyone, I'm farely new and have few questions. I have the emotiva xpa-5 gen 2 and I'm using a marantz sr5008 as a pre amp and I'm powering klipsch r-25c center, r-28f mains and soon to be klipsch rb-61ii as surrounds. My question is my amp seemed totally quiet when I first got it and then I started to notice a weird hissing noise coming out of my current surrounds which is the Andrew Jones towers from pioneer. I figured it was my New cable box because games and movies don't have that noise at all. It sounds like a distorted digital hiss type thing that's hard to explain. I got closer to my amp and it's buzzing louder than when I got it and when I power it down there's a hiss coming from inside the amp. I tried different hdmi cables and tried to use my tv speakers and there's nothing wrong. I hooked all my speakers up through the marantz and still nothing wrong. I'm using the emotiva mr a-7 cables for my pre outs. I played around with those and discovered they were fine. I'm using uss speaker cables for my fronts and center and monster speaker wires for my surrounds with silverback banana plugs. While I was playing around with the rca cables I discovered it depended on where I plugged them into the amp which speakers had a hum coming out of them and it was two desperate inputs. Has anybody else had any similar problems or fixes to the problem? Sorry if I sound dumb I just want to try all my options before I decide to send it away. Is the amp noise normal? Its the first desperate amp I've ever had so I don't have experience with others
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Now, I don't have any experience with desperate inputs, let alone desperate amps (sorry, just couldn't resist)....but sounds like you did a good job of narrowing down the issue. Seems you have a faulty amp from your description if only two of the five channels are affected.
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Lol, u got me there. And that sucks, I just hope it isn't a painful process. Thank u for your response
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