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Noticed the sale myself. Since I'm in the UK that makes it more expensive. ok for poweramps, and have two x two channel spare anyway. Maybe XMC-1 but will cost a lot to bring in.
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Im sorry if this comes off as a remedial question, but am I reading info right that if i decide to add an xpa 3 or 5 to my current 5.1 setup that there is a possibility that ill trip my house breakers? Home theater is one thing but home rewiring is another.
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Im sorry if this comes off as a remedial question, but am I reading info right that if i decide to add an xpa 3 or 5 to my current 5.1 setup that there is a possibility that ill trip my house breakers? Home theater is one thing but home rewiring is another.
There are people who frequent this thread who can explain this in much more detail than I. Be that as it may, unless you there are lots of devices plugged into the same circuit, it is not likely you will blow a circuit with the addition of either the XPA 3 or XPA 5. In my case I would plug the amp into a line conditioner like the ones made by tripp lite, but I'm sure there are people who will tell that is not needed.
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Im sorry if this comes off as a remedial question, but am I reading info right that if i decide to add an xpa 3 or 5 to my current 5.1 setup that there is a possibility that ill trip my house breakers? Home theater is one thing but home rewiring is another.
As stated above, unless you're already maxed out on that circuit, should be no worries, I run 2 XPA-5's, my receiver, BR player and DVR all off the same 15A circuit, and I do also run through a power conditioner, but I'm mostly just figuring that to be a surge protector more than anything.
Recommended or not, my entire system is running off of 2-15 amp (1 as mentioned above, 1 for my Subs and Powered Woofers) and 1-20 amp (for my XPR's) with no issues.

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Damn how long is this sale going on for ?
Just seen it and sure enough 20%
Until the end of the year unless I misread the sale info banner.
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Thanks for the heads up on the sale, just picked up my second XPA-7, and I'm still an e-club member for another week so even greater savings. Too bad they discontinued that option.

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What? They discontinued the e-club?
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That is what I was told, as of this summer they stopped offering it.

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What? They discontinued the e-club?
Yup, as of June 2015 no New e-club memberships, all old memberships are good until they expire.
But, if you look at this sale you'll notice something different, instead of the sale being 10% off and e-club members getting the extra 10%, now everyone just gets 20% up front.

I'm wondering if this will be the benefit to buying ID from them in the future once they start selling B&M.

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Are there any problems that seem inherent with this amp? I was looking at it a while ago but I found a thread about the XPA-5 and hum and I started looking elsewhere. The current $800 price is very tempting, though.
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Are there any problems that seem inherent with this amp? I was looking at it a while ago but I found a thread about the XPA-5 and hum and I started looking elsewhere. The current $800 price is very tempting, though.
I've bought both of mine used, the second one I just got, so far 0 issues and I can tell you for sure that their protection circuitry works very well, I recently changed and cleaned up some of my wiring, ended up with a bad connection (totally my fault) the amp shut down as advertised, told me which channel had the fault, fixed the fault, turned on the amp, prefect.
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I have not heard of hum problems with the XPA-5. Any amp, or any component, added to a system could create a ground loop but that has nothing to do with the component.

My XPA-3, XPA-5, and XPA-2 are all humming along, oops, I mean sounding great, no humming, unless it's me.
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Yup, as of June 2015 no New e-club memberships, all old memberships are good until they expire.
But, if you look at this sale you'll notice something different, instead of the sale being 10% off and e-club members getting the extra 10%, now everyone just gets 20% up front.

I'm wondering if this will be the benefit to buying ID from them in the future once they start selling B&M.
Sale is 20% off + 10% of for e-club members. Just ordered another XPA-5 yesterday. Hoping new prepro comes out before my membership expires.

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Sale is 20% off + 10% of for e-club members. Just ordered another XPA-5 yesterday. Hoping new prepro comes out before my membership expires.
Very cool, I wasn't ordering anything for a couple of weeks so didn't realize this, apparently "one last gift" for us e-club members.
I got lucky and got my membership just before the announcement, I'll have until the end of May 2016, I'm already covered with a 40% card for the XMR-1, so I won't have to "nail bite" for the timing on it.

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I have a 40% off card as well. May become quite lucrative when the New pre pro comes out.
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Did you guys notice any difference in sound quality when adding in the XPA 5 or 3?
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No difference compared to my Pioneer SC-27 driving Magnepan MG-IIIa's (4-ohms, low sensitivity) and Magnepan center/surrounds. Yes when added to my older Sony as it had a hard time driving my Magnepans. That is, at lower levels sound quality wasn't really different, but the Sony would overheat when driven moderately hard and loaded with five 4-ohm low-sensitivity speakers. The Sony is doing fine upstairs driving an Infinity Alpha (fairly large floorstanders plus big center) 5.1 (Infinity sub) system with little Mirage surrounds. It also handled a full 5.1 Mirage system with no trouble.

Few folk actually need an external amplifier though many want one or convince themselves it will make a big difference. My XPA's are overkill for my system but bought because the Sony struggled. Had I purchased the Pioneer first, or had different speakers, I would not have purchased the XPA's. Although I have switched to a processor now so they are useful.

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Few folk actually need an external amplifier though many want one or convince themselves it will make a big difference. My XPA's are overkill for my system but bought because the Sony struggled. Had I purchased the Pioneer first, or had different speakers, I would not have purchased the XPA's. Although I have switched to a processor now so they are useful.

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^^^ Yes, that is a good point. I have no plans (not really room) for Atmos or similar systems so tend to forget about that.

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now my dimension for my cinéma room is 11x20x7,I eventually I make modification to 13x25x8,my instalation now is 7.4.4 ,I think to buy xpa7 and xpa5 for put more


power in my new cinéma room, my onkyo tx-nr3030 serve to préamp.what do you thing is good or not.


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Personally, I think you will be very happy.
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now my dimension for my cinéma room is 11x20x7,I eventually I make modification to 13x25x8,my instalation now is 7.4.4 ,I think to buy xpa7 and xpa5 for put more


power in my new cinéma room, my onkyo tx-nr3030 serve to préamp.what do you thing is good or not.


thank you
Zimmo, whether it's "good or not" or worthwhile depends on more than gut feel and the feelgood factor of having a big new amp.

It actually depends on several things, one of which we don't know just yet. That is: What is the loudest level (-/+dB master volume) you would like to watch a movie or listen to music at in your room? Please let us know.

Your Onkyo TX-NR3030 has reasonably powerful amps and carries THX Select2 certification. This means that it's capable of playing any commercially available program material (movies and music) to Reference Level (calibrated 0dBMV) in a "Select" sized room when hooked up to a set of speakers with a minimum sensitivity of 89dB/1W/1m and nominal impedance of 4Ω (fronts) and 8Ω (all others).

THX room volumes and associated viewing/listening distances are shown below. Your current room (<1600ft^3) fits within the Select/Select2 envelope and I presume your viewing distance is about 12ft. All your speakers claim to meet or exceed the THX sensitivity and impedance requirements, if these are the ones: Paradigm Monitor 9 v5; Paradigm CC-390 v5; Earthquake Sweetspot SS-82W.

So, provided those are your speakers and you don't intend to watch movies or listen at above reference (calibrated 0dBMV) in your current room, the Onkyo TX-NR3030 alone will be capable of meeting your current power needs, and an XPA-7 or XPA-5 would not be worthwhile. They won't actually "put more power into the room"... only the power that's actually required by your particular situation will be generated and the Onkyo will be able to generate that. Your money would almost certainly be better spent elsewhere.

In the future, when you modify your room to be larger (2600ft^3) than the Select/Select2 envelope, and if you like to watch/listen at close to 0dBMV, that is when you should re-examine your need for a power amp.

I hope that helps Zimmo...

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thank you GIEGAR,

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Im sorry if this comes off as a remedial question, but am I reading info right that if i decide to add an xpa 3 or 5 to my current 5.1 setup that there is a possibility that ill trip my house breakers? Home theater is one thing but home rewiring is another.
You will be totally fine.

I had to have 40amps dedicated for my Home Theater, however... lol
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No problem Zimmo. A couple of questions...

What's the loudest you like to listen to music or watch a movie at?

Did I get the models of your Paradigms correct?
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depend which one film I see,when I take dolby surround for bluray ex; dark knight I put to 65,when I see bluray whit dolby atmos ex; transformer I put to 55.


for my speaker ,6 paradigm monitor no 9 and 4 in ceilling earthquake sweet spot ww-82w,all speakers is very strong.

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depend which one film I see,when I take dolby surround for bluray ex; dark knight I put to 65,when I see bluray whit dolby atmos ex; transformer I put to 55.


for my speaker ,6 paradigm monitor no 9 and 4 in ceilling earthquake sweet spot ww-82w,all speakers is very strong.
OK thanks Zimmo.

So 65 and 55 on the "absolute" volume scale for movies. Lets say an absolute maximum of 70 OK? On a (THX) Onkyo AVR, 70 absolute volume is equivalent to -12dB "relative" volume scale.

At that volume level with your speakers, you are a long, long way from external amps being needed. Per channel, you're probably calling on the Onkyo's amps for 10 - 15W bursts for program peaks and <1W on a continuous basis. Another way of looking at it... at 70 / -12dB volume, the power demands are theoretically 16x less than at 82 / 0dB ("reference").

An external power amp, Emotiva or otherwise, would be waste of money in your current situation and in your future larger room.
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I jumped on the 20% off sale and grabbed a XPA-5. Never really thought of doing an amp before, but Atmos changed that. I do worry a little because the XPA-5 is putting out power above what is recommended for my speakers, so I'll need to be careful with that.
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A 20 W amp driven by a 20 kHz square wave for five or ten minutes will take out most tweeters. Use your ears and keep the levels sane and you'll be fine.
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